DAZED AND CONFUSED IN WV
If you have read a few of my past posts, you would might discern that I have been generally hopeful for the future of race relations in general and specifically in relations between West Virginians and the rest of the outside world.
(All right, cut it out with the Deliverance crap, please)
I was out with the boys this evening, and I learned a couple of things:
1) There is a direct corelation between dollars spent on media message and the number of Rebel flags flying around on pickup trucks with gun racks, etc. Attitudes included.
2) It is amazing how even some of these same fellows will start questioning themselves fundamentally after you explain how
a) "Good" insurance (Property and casualty liability, life insurance for example) is like a lubricant for the economy in that it allows people to take the risks of everyday life without having to worry about losing everything if one screws up, and,
b) How "bad" insurance, like the health insurance industry, is basically a big ass leech in the middle of a money stream of most healthcare expenditures in this country between state/federal governments (VA, workers comp, workers conp, medicare, etc, etc,) to the actual provider of the healthcare service.
Even my "birther"/"deather" Fox devotee friend Bud, the one with the Medicare kidney, was asking intelligent questions and seemed dumbfounded at the results.
These guys are already hearing from GP doctors about how they aren't making big money. My friends want to know where the f@#k the money is going. I want to keep them out of their pickup trucks.
I don't know what to think except that we have to keep educating.
Everyone. Everywhere.













Some people are more comfortable angry than educated.
August 15, 2009 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
thanks for the post, wvbiker.
August 15, 2009 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes I get surprised by answers given on cable. Of course I NEVER WATCH FOX.
August 15, 2009 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've wondered if you could sit down and talk to these people one-on-one if they would listen. It probably helps a lot that your friends trust you.
You're doing your bit, WV. Who knows, maybe the word will spread at least to the point the two sides can have a civil discussion.
You know - that's all I'm asking. All I want is a civil discussion of the reform issue. The wingers are welcome to their opinions and their fear, but just be civil about it.
Part of this mess is caused by the Democrats ham-handed ineptness at framing issues. The word *care* should have been left out of the mix. The reform should be about health insurance reform and access to health care, not about reforming health care.
August 15, 2009 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hell, we'll sit down and listen to you anytime, dog. You're buying, right?
August 15, 2009 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought you were buying, TJ. This old granny is broke.
August 16, 2009 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Keep up the good work wvbiker. If you want some more facts I tried to provide some here:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/markg8/2009/08/selling-hr-3200-to-the-public.php
I hope you find it useful. Keep talking to them.
August 15, 2009 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good post, Biker.
Most folks will listen to reason. If you take the politics out of it and present the issues in personal terms, they get it. It's the sloganeering and bumper-sticker state of mind that you have to get around. That's what the beer's for.
So, Biker, where are you? I'm in Elkins.
August 15, 2009 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink