Obama's propaganda and the boundaries of creepy
Please hear me out. I like Obama. I read The Audacity of Hope and loved it. I voted for him. But I see a trend that makes me worry.
My wife and I watched the infomercial last night. We were both sort of bored, since we've been following things so closely and have heard much of it before. But for me, what stood out the most is that the Obama campaign keeps pressing on with this propagandistic marketing. I felt this way for a long time, even before I settled on him in March. That torturingly obvious sunrise logo, the "Vero possimus" gaffe, the suggestion that he is running in part as a metaphor--it made me uncomfortable, but I generally like Obama's politics, so I ignored the silly marketing.
And then the infomercial aired.
Don't get me wrong. I think it's great for a candidate--although, perhaps more appropriately, for a president--to sit down and speak with American citizens. To chat, if you will. By a fire, even.
But does there need to be quasi-Aaron-Copland scoring as the scene shifts from field to factory? Does the camera need to roll slowly rightward, imbuing with barely perceivable magic a scene in which Obama delivers number-studded talking points? Does the business of our government need to become a History Channel presidential documentary with the gravitas of a Spielberg war epic?
I realize that not everyone sees it like this. I also recognize that Obama has, in some respects, fought an uphill battle against prejudices that prevent some voters from even considering him fully. And for years, now, running for president has involved the creation of a brand, of jingles and icons, and has employed marketing strategies, framing, propaganda, etc.
I just hope that Obama does far less of this after the election. It gives me the willies.





If you realize that Obama is both fighting uphill and fighting equivalent campaign techniques from the right, then you would not be creeped out.
Consider the alternative.
October 30, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obamamercial reminded me of Reagan intoning for GE.
Obama studied Reagan so our best hope is that that was deliberate.
October 30, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everything Obama does is likely quite deliberate.
I remember many discussions here, around 2006, about whether Democratic candidates should use psychology in campaigning. That is, should they lecture like Ralph Nader, or use lies like Rove, or maybe use well-chosen language that is essentially true?
I argued strenuously for campaigning to win, as a necessary condition for all other aspirations. I will only be creeped out if I have to hear "My Friends" any more after Tuesday.
October 30, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If my clock radio wakes me up with that on Wednesday morning, I might gouge my eyes out. Yowza.
October 30, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell? He's running for president, fer chrissakes! Would you be happier if he did a less masterful job of it? Is it the style you object to? Would you prefer more of an MTV pastiche type thing, or maybe surrealist images with dadaist poetry? I dislike conventional marketing cliches as much as the next guy, but this has some heart behind it. His campaign has found an effective way to connect with the greatest possible numbers of an immense audience, thereby possibly allowing him TO ACTUALLY WIN THE ELECTION!
Sorry to rave. I always read your comments and usually enjoy them and find myself in agreement, but in this case I think your gripe is ridiculous.
October 30, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really didn't mean to go off on you, and I apologize. The pre-election stress is getting to me.
BTW, re: your final sentence - I fully expect we will see less of this sort of pitch after the election - it's a campaigning tool.
October 30, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
No offense taken! Thanks for speaking your mind.
October 30, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just because it is manipulative doesn't automatically mean it is based on falsehoods. Reagan and Bush deployed symbolism at direct odds with their intentions -- both perhaps without knowing it, because they, themselves, were empty symbols chosen by The Party.
The big thing here is that Obama has created his own marketing package, rather than having it thrust upon him, and it is based on his demonstrable beliefs. Beyond that, of course, this infommercial was not made for people like us, who pay close attention, but for low-information, non-cable viewers, who apparently watched in great numbers.
October 30, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never suggested (or never meant to suggest) that Obama is churning out untruths. However, I also believe that the medium shapes the message, and in this case, the effect is deleterious to American political discourse (not that it was in very good shape to begin with). For that reason, I hope an Obama administration won't make a habit of communicating with the electorate in this particular way.
October 30, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The inevitable corruption of political discourse by television started long before Obama entered the scene. The problem will continue as long as the boob tube is the main source of low information.
I have always believed that television could serve a specific purpose in educating people--but TV doesn't work that way. It cannot use anything that would allow eyes to stray from the screen--that means long discussion, text, or a screen that doesn't bob and flicker to tempt your eyes. Discourse has to be reinterpreted into visual symbols.
Neil Postman said it much better than I do, of course.
What Obama did well in the informercial is use what works, unlike Ross Perot.
Ross, an old-school guy from the print/radio generation, bored his viewers.
I was GLAD the video held my eyes. I was glad that it worked on me. I've done my homework and I know why I'm voting Obama--the video wouldn't have changed my mind. But there are people who will vote based on how they felt after watching the video.
Maybe it's a cheat to use television extremely well. Kind of a moot point.
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October 31, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amen!
October 31, 2008 8:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barack Obama is a trained lawyer. This was his visual "closing argument," made especially for people who haven't been paying attention, unlike those of us who are, too much so. It's sort of like going to Disney. Sometimes you go with the eyes of a child and get caught up in the faux magic. Sometimes you go as a jaded adult and you notice the track that the jungle adventure boat is transporting you on. LOW INFORMATION VOTERS need stirring visuals and touching vignettes and uplifting music because they're NOT readers and consumers of political blogs. Obama errs a bit too close to the "too much" sometimes, but I don't think you and I can be the judges of that, since we're not the target he's aiming at.
October 30, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
He was casting a very wide net. I went in with low expectations, but was well pleased. It was a positive.
October 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to co-sign partially. I hate over-produced campaign videos with the soaring music and wind blowing in the cornfields. I thought there was too much of it in the infomercial especially in the beginning. The personal bits about Obama didn't move me much nor do I think they'd be compelling to undecided voters. They've already seen that at the convention.
What was brilliant was the care they took in choosing the personal regular people's stories. They were real folks with real issues - more real than Joe the Plumber or Sarah Palin. They were compelling and relatable. I wish instead of the taped schtick they had done more live interaction with real voters. I think they may have moved the needle and picked up some undecided votes there (if people hadn't already flipped the channel thinking this is going to be another conventional slick meet the candidate piece)
And I wish there were more pie charts. Dang it I really loved the Ross Perot infomercials in 1992. THAT was entertainment.
October 30, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure if you're being snarky or not about the pie charts, but if you're not I'm with you. I really like pie charts, especially if they're made out of pie.
Of course, that probably doesn't ring true for the average "Joe". (And, yes, I'm fairly certain you were being snarky.)
October 30, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kinda snarky, but kinda not. I heart pie charts! And numbers and data! (although I'm with you my favorite pie charts are of actual pie). As nutty as Ross Perot was, after watching his infomercial every American had a perfect sense of how deep in the hole the US was with the national deficit. He probably earned Bill Clinton some votes by driving home how serious the nation's problems were for those folks that heard his message but were looking for a more sane guy to get us out of that mess. A little more specificity rather than just standard campaign lines ("I'll cut taxes for everyone making less than 200K!") would be more convincing for me. But I'm not an undecided voter, so what works for me might not work for them.
October 30, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Somebody say pie?
Huh? Speak up!
Is there, or is there not, PIE on the premises?
October 30, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pecan pie just for you Quinn... because you're kind of a nut :)
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Desserts/PecanPie.jpg
October 30, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dij, you got an extra $199 on ya?
Cause I just bit my monitor. And it bit back. Titantic struggle ensued. Needless to say, I kicked its ass. Face. Assface, whatever. May have to see my dentist again.
But it was worth it, that feeling at the end when I grabbed the monitor, and turned it so it had to look directly at this disgusting bowl of Quaker Oats I'm eating - instead of Pecan PIE - and admit that it was ITS fault, its own bloody faulty monitor-self, for not writing better stuff, thus condemning us both to a life of direst poverty.
After which, it broke down. Just... shattered.
So I'm blaming you. $199 should see us back in business here. And $0.35 for a new bowl of Oatmeal. Ben'll chip in.
October 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perot was so weird, but so right about NAFTA.
October 30, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Depends on the kid of pie. Otherwise, I can do without the pie chart gimmicks.
I'm bothered by the Hallmark glitz, but it isn't aimed at me.
October 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you about the segments on specific families. It is extremely important to remind voters that the presidential campaign is not merely entertainment or an outlet for self-expression (i.e. a favorite party being treated somewhat like a favorite music genre or way of dressing). This stuff is directly connected to the quality of our lives, and those stories made that clear.
October 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
You could have had the George Orwellian Ministry of Information -- wait, you have that already but it's called the Bush Administration.
Let me try to give you a different perspective:
143 (or so) years after the end of slavery, a black man is just days and a few million votes away from becoming President. The "standards" for him are far higher than the basic laid out in the Constitution: being a natural born citizen and having attained the age of 35. He has had to be more than "articulate and clean", intelligent and well-educated (merely graduating from a "good" state school would not be enough, nor would be graduating at the bottom of his class). Unlike others who were taken seriously without having held elective office, he had to, and even then his "experience" is questioned. Other candidates are "one of us" after a brief introduction and no information, but after 22 months people still claim that they don't "know who Barack Obama is," but they can pin all kinds of labels on him: arrogant, elitist, smug, presumptuous, uppity, angry, aloof, a communist, a radical, a socialist, a Marxist, a "Muslim terrorist," a "terrorist sympathizer," a "liberal", a "wealth redistributor," the "anti-Christ", the "Messiah," "that one," "just like Jesse Jackson," "a race-card playing race-baiter," a "ni@@er" -- you can finish your own list. Running for President was and remains an uphill battle for him -- even in these final days.
Understand, Obama has always had to do more, do it better and more effectively than John McCain, who has spent most of his life just showing up. Obama didn't have a father and grandfather to bail his behind out every time he effed up.
To combat the smears and racism thrown Obama's way, he needed money. Millions of us provided it in small donations. He needed an army of foot soldiers to spread the word. We provided that army.
This informercial was the culmination of a lot of hard work. In years past, the RNC far outraised and outspent the DNC. They took advantage of every loophole in the campaign financing laws. When hard money was not enough, they created PACs and 527s and other entities to skirt the regulations. The result: Democrats lost.
This year, Obama made a wise gamble that has paid off: forego public financing and ask the people directly to fund his campaign. He did and we ponied up.
So, I don't see the infomericial as "propaganda." I see it as validation. And if some McCain supporters or "undecideds" (read that as "I ain't votin' for no black man" voters) tuned in expecting to see Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright and Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Raoul and Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and Kim Jong Il and Vladimir Putin and the embalmed bodies of Marx and Lenin and Stalin and Kruschev and Saddam Hussein (did you know Obama's middle name is Hussein?) and saw a calm, steady, reasonable man being endorsed by people who looked like them, from places that they know, with problems like theirs, and that gave them pause then great. That's what the informercial was supposed to do.
Now you and your wife can choose to buy the propaganda from John McCain and the incomprehensible Sarah Palin or you can choose Obama-Biden.
October 30, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, but you're simply full of shit, Jade. Propaganda is propaganda: It has zero content. No "validation" of anything.
Is that all you want for black people, Jade? Zero content? I don't. As you say, I can get zero content from white people.
But hey, thanks for trying!
October 30, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Propaganda can have content, but it often communicates in ways that aren't rational. Take the Obama "O" logo. A sun rises over a plowed field. The field looks like the stripes of an American flag. The sun against the blue sky seems to form an O. The content: Obama's rise is as harmlessly American as the sun rising over the Heartland. Not much content, but content nevertheless. (I probably could have picked a better example.)
October 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
In fact, your grasp of the visual symbolism of the Obama for President logo are bang-on.
October 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oops - is. Changed one thing and not both. My grammatical bad...
October 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. To clarify, by the way, I'm referring to the animated version of the logo (as seen on TV, like Smooth Away hair removal, I suppose, or Pearl Cream, except not).
October 30, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
All propaganda is used to manipulate people in some way, so yes, propaganda does have "content," primarily symbolic, as you point out in your post and again in your comment about the "O" logo.
My use of the word "content" has to do with "substance over form." A logo has no substance (as you clearly know), at least no consequential substance. It's simply a "mark" whose goal is to become instantly recognizable. It can have additional symbolic value (like Obama's version of "Morning in America" with his logo). Or not.
My criticism is that Jade is infusing "validation" into Obama's propaganda (the primary subject of your post) rather than into Obama's policies and positions. Many people at this site confuse the propaganda for the policies. But such is the goal of propaganda.
Certainly we expect propaganda from politicians, but like you, worthlesscitizen, I want the propaganda I get from politicians to be more original. Smart as Obama's team is, they didn't go beyond traditional (read: trite) symbolism.
A little humor once in a while would have helped.
October 30, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes! The confusion of propaganda with policy is a problem, and it even bubbled up here and there in the infomercial, for example in Bill Richardson's segment. It disappoints me how many of my acquaintances, knowing next to nothing about O.'s tax proposal or healthcare plan, are more excited about Obama's Unique Capacity to Unify the American People. Okay, that would be neat, and indeed threads of truth run through the big, hollow, cloud-shaped metaphor, but for Pete's sake, folks, let's focus on the threads of truth.
I'll be interested to see if Republicans can engage in this kind of discourse with any success. Doubtless we'll see many more attempts with the 2010 midterms.
BTW, my lack of a sense of humor should be legendary by now.
October 30, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Narrative technique has zero content while a person discussing pie charts does? I'd allow that narrative has "less" content (as the structure takes longer to build toward the message) than a facts-and-graphs preso. To go so far as to say that the informercial had zero content is I think injudicious, to overemphasize the policy verses propaganda distinction that is definitive of political messaging in these times. I hear the echo of the hollow suit (sorry, was it the empty suit? The invisible man?) metaphor for BHO that often, chillingly, seemed to be a code for white stereotypes about "all style and no substance," a charge from dem's and others all the more inappropriate for being made to Harvard-trained lawyer.
I understand the reaction against the Obama campaign’s narrative reliance on affect, (Bush=sadness, Change=Hope) as Obama will soon not represent the overturning of a hateful regime in American history, and become the new regime. As it is, I was not the audience for the structure of the Informercial as (1) I’ve already voted for BHO and (2) am turned off by the playing to conventional affect that the narrative of the informercial strove for. But my comments here comments here are only scratching at the surface of a complex moment whereby the projection of affect IS A CONTENT because of the historical nature of the ousting Bush and his demons, and stepping into a country that may yet overcome the cheaper parts of its racialized history. Before we speculate on how to pick that narrative apart in order to show our frustration with propaganda I’d say we need to remember that Obama will likely not be a progressive president, (as that’s a change disabled by the absorption of the market as the final arbiter and reality of consensual goals) and yet it’s a fucking godsend that he might make it anyway.
October 30, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for pointing this out; I whole-heartedly agree.
And to echo this, some people aren't charts-and-graphs types; they need a story. There's nothing wrong with that.
October 30, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I put this in the wrong place below, as I struggled to sign in, but here are my thoughts on Obama's use of a propaganda style:
I wasn't the target audience for this infomercial, as I've done my research and made my decision a long time ago. So, I don't know how to judge what this did for an undecided or low-information voter.
But, as far as propaganda goes, it may have been necessary to take that approach. After all, he's fighting a negative propaganda campaign. People have viscerally negative responses based on his skin color or his middle name and all these lies spread around about him. To counter that he would need to strike an emotional chord, not just an intellectual one.
October 31, 2008 12:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, fuck off, you little shitlet.
It was truthful, which is more than I can say for McCain's commercials. And it was moving. It very simply juxtaposed stories of real people with policies of an Obama Administration. Not enough content for you? Fine, just go over to Obama's website and read the position papers. In fact, just go away. Slither back under your rock. You've never once added any meaningful content to this site.
October 30, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're going to namecall, please use cleaner language.
October 30, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or how about just not doing the name calling? It's like people forget that there are other parties out there on this website, called readers. And readers get zilch out of one poster's hate for another, it's useless information. If we wanted trashy trumped-up drama, we'd be better served buying a junk novel, seeing a girl chick movie where they have catfights, or going to a wrestling match.
October 30, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Then perhaps Blown Gasket should stop telling people they are full of shit when he disagrees with them. He debates like a four-year-old with attention deficit disorder AND Tourette syndrome.
October 31, 2008 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's kind of funny, Jason. You're like a fly: attracted to shit whenever it surfaces in these threads.
October 31, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
So you acknowledge that your posts are shit? That shows some positive growth.
October 31, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, thanks for the counterpoint! I appreciate your effort. You are right that (1) the up-is-down Bush administration has been rewriting truth for years, and (2) the standards of presidential expectation have been applied inconsistently to Obama. (And my wife and I already voted Obama the other day.)
But to clarify, I don't mean propaganda in the sense of brainwashing or 2+2=5. I mean it in the slightly older, pre-Hitler sense of self-advertisement, an elevated kind of communication in which a person or group employs a full battery of conveyances in order to make a convincing, winning appeal. Think of U.S military commercials on television and all the ways in which they are shaped to encourage recruitment. Political campaigns are a lot like that, especially Obama's.
October 30, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Music and images can work both ways - to increase fear for votes or decrease fear for votes.
To highlight the difference see this example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w
I think Obama could have gone with something similar and be completely justified. It is very important to inform the electorate of just what they would be getting in a McCain presidency. Hey scary music and just the sheer facts bring the specter of a McCain presidency into cold terrifying focus.
But instead of going that route, Obama chose to highlight his greatest strength - that he listens and understands Americans from every walk of life, understands their problems and needs, and plans to fight for them, not use them as foot soldiers to fight a global domination plan.
October 30, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rec'd for sheer courage.
1. For most of us, TV ads are not our preferred method. (Then again, most of us will happily watch talking heads for hours, and not even notice if they happen not to be wearing pants.) When it came to last night, I decided to just let myself go. Turned my criticizer down. Let myself be hopeful. And at that level, it seemed fine. Clear, simple, reinforcing. Well done.
2. That said, and while I totally understand the need for change and the admire this man, it's really a question of whether one begins to doubt and be critical and even be DISAPPOINTED now, or after the election. Because if he does win, one by one, we will hit events where we deeply disagree with Obama. Deeply enough that we'll wonder what the hell we were originally thinking. Doesn't matter whether you were into Clinton or Blair, Bobby K or Trudeau, Reagan or FDR or Lincoln. Look, not even Jesus could keep his closest disciples from doubting, a LOT. And I actually think it's the sign of a good mind, WT, to be able to do this early, to walk ahead anyway.
3. Last thought. Campaigns get into bubbles. THIS campaign is in one. Not that their thoughts are worthless, it's just that after 18 months of 24/7 life there, your world gets simplified. You're used to punching and repunching the same things. You have such dissonance between the guy you see and talk to daily, and the guy projected up on the screen, but you're USED to it. And that world, ALWAYS, gets punctured. Not all the people who run the campaign stay around. Later on, they tend to shake their heads and wonder why they got in so deep. So... they probably are into their stuff too deep. I'm ok with that, as long as they're right enough that all wake up to a victory.
Cheers, and well done for saying this stuff out loud. Public service.
October 30, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the kind words. I'm convinced that Obama's going to be great for the United States, domestically and abroad. I just worry sometimes that in the long run, political propaganda may train voters to think lazily. In a republic, this kind of thought in an electorate can be dangerous.
October 30, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Quinn, Quinn, I know the answer, call on me, can ya, can ya, please!!!! Call on me, I can tell you all about it. Please. Just this once. It won't be like the other 82 times, I promise. Just one more.....
October 30, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would, but I'm drinking heavily. Not sure I can handle both you AND my prescribed 26 glasses of water daily.
Oh go ahead.
Remind me what my question was though.
October 30, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question was who's willing to give Quinn $199 for his dental bills! Thanks to Des for volunteering :)
October 30, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dental bills? It's for the new Monitor.
Like I said, I kicked that thing's ASSSSSSS. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Who's the boss of me NOW, Monitor? Eh? Eh?
October 30, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Last time I loaned Quinn money he blew it on Cialis. I'm slowly beginning to recognize the signs of a fetishist, and have a slight inkling what happened to his molars.
October 30, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was surprised that he did an over produced, sappy mini-movie narrative. I wouldn't label it propaganda, though, I think you're using the wrong word there, that doesn't ring exactly right to me. Rather, it's sort of condescending to think a lot of wavering or swing voters will fall for that kind of thing. Seemed to come from the same type of advisors that told candidate Al Gore that he needed to wear more earth tones.
I think Ross Perot did it better and smarter. His informercials treated voters like grown ups. Before someone points out that he didn't win, I will point out that at one time in his campaign, he lead all the other candidates in the polls precisely because of his predilection for not doing the "creating an image" thing via "Madison Avenue," but by talking about problems and saying "we can fix this, here's how." (I remember he did it more for free on Larry King's show than in paid for informericals.)
Perot's appeal remained strong among Independents and swings, because of the treating them like grown ups thing, precisely the votes Obama needs to get right now. I think an equivalent of some Perot fans then are are Lou Dobbs fans now. I can imagine someone who watches Lou Dobbs thinking that Obama video was more silly stuff that politicians waste money on.
Maybe the campaign was thinking they should spend money to make sure the base that fell in love with Obama's early primary speeches gets out to vote? The type of people that often never bothered to vote in the past when the day finally rolled around, but got excited by his vague inspirational oratory early in his campaign? Because that's the only audience I see that informercial appealing to.
October 30, 2008 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
You liked Perot's infomercials better, huh? Well, so did I. :-) However, I think there's a central difference in what the two candidates were trying to do. The audience, generally speaking, may be the same, but I believe the message is vastly different.
When you consider the real target audience of the infomercial, I think he hit that group. I saw the target being undecideds and soft McCain leaners. I watched it with a bunch of "J. T. Plumber" types in an Italian social club here, the voters that McCain needs to swing his way in the swing states to pull this off.
Two of them noticed that Obama didn't even mention McCain once in 30 minutes. They also noticed that the featured families were a lot like theirs, and the issues discussed were a lot like theirs. The underlying message is that, "Hey, I feel your pain, I know what you're dealing with, and I've got good plans to help you." At least, that's what got across to these folks. Obviously, not all were sufficiently moved to declare they would vote for Obama - but no one seemed creeped out in the slightest.
In the end, maybe the lesson is that we're in the campaign bubble, and have been for up to two years, while the people Obama was really targeting last night were the types who didn't watch his 2004 convention speech or his declaration in Springfield or the race speech in Philly or the acceptance speech in Denver. As crazy as it seems to people like us, Obama's still in the process of introducing or reintroducing himself to those undecided and unplugged voters. He got to speak to them "without the media filter", and present the image he wanted.
October 30, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
In my view the Obama campaign has been all about getting people to think, not blindly manipulating them.
I didn't view the video as manipulation. Certainly it appealed to emotion. Who needs propaganda, unless you're trying to persuade people against what makes good sense?
October 30, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think, considering what McCain has been throwing at Obama these past months, and the level of sleaze to which he has stooped, I don't know, I guess I would much rather have an ad like Obama aired last night, full of hope and encouragement and a restating of his vision for America and why he's running for president, than a low-ball slime ad that only targets the opponent negatively and distorts the truth, to put in mildly. Call me crazy, but I'll take the well-done production for Obama over the crap that's been slung by the McCain camp any day. I liked Obama's infomercial and I liked that he is trying to reach as many voters as possible. I like that it was positive and that it didn't sling mud. The comparison is a no-brainer for me.
October 30, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is the Merriam Webster's Definition:
Main Entry: pro·pa·gan·da
Pronunciation: \ˌprä-pə-ˈgan-də, ˌprō-\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV †1623
Date: 1718
1capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause ; also : a public action having such an effect
— pro·pa·gan·dist \-dist\ noun or adjective
— pro·pa·gan·dis·tic \-ˌgan-ˈdis-tik\ adjective
— pro·pa·gan·dis·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
Don't complain about propaganda. You are awash in it. Differentiate between attempts to influence your opinion using fact, argument, and deambiguation vs using fear, reification, mystification, and mythification. There is a big difference between someone trying to influence you by informing you vs someone trying to influence you by MISinforming you.
October 30, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is less of a difference between your two polar ends of "propaganda" than may be apparent at first. I'm not merely charging Obama with falsification. The object of my complaint is a murky gray area between your "fact, argument, and deambiguation" and "fear, reification, mystification, and mythification."
And the medium helps produce this gray area.
It feels like you're responding less to my post than to my use of the word "propaganda." I'm not particularly interested in a semantics argument.
October 30, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me either. Propaganda was a bad word choice on your part, imho. You are talking about your feelings watching a documentary film about the producer of the documentary. There are not very many ideas here to decompose. You wrote about your feelings and intuitions. Others, myself included, have attested that they do not share your feelings. End of argument.
October 30, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
It appears that some are not satisfied with the way Mr. Obama proceeds on his race for the Presidency.
If he only had taken the advice of millions of bloggers and designed a salad campaign of mish mash for them...so each could pat his own back.
But, instead, he ran his campain the way he determined and decided to run it, to make an infomercial for those who needed to see it and will now continue onto the next effort on his list. A list that was not altered along the way to include those various negative trips the talking heads were urging on him.
If you want to run for President, make your own commercial.
Until then...accept his choices, support his election, watch how he works and be part of the progressive govt. for change.
After 8 years of raw vile rethug propaganda, I think you can allow, please Massa, Obama 30 mins of film to say whatever he damn well feels like, in whatever way he chooses...fade in fade out. He has earned his place, give him an attaboy and relax. So far, no one has done it better!
Get off his back.
He doesn't owe us anything yet.
He can't disappoint anyone yet.
He is not the president yet...goodgawdgertie.
Are you sure his tie was straight?
October 30, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
My relatives tell me similar things when I criticize Bush's performance as president.
By the way, who is "Massa"? Should I be offended?
October 30, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I sorta don't believe your response to my comment...
There is a world of difference between Bush and Obama, what would be said about one could not be said about the other...hence the defense would not be the same.
Massa?
October 30, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I should have been more specific. Sorry. The "If you want to run for President, make your own commercial. Until then...accept his choices" part is what I was referring to. At least one other commenter here has offered the "If you don't like it, do it yourself" argument. I'm not sure it's any more appropriate than what I'm doing.
And I'm not "on his back." I'm safely out of his way, posting about his infomercial in a little corner of TPM. I know he'll do fine. I just hope the intended audience doesn't respond like I did. (With more shuddering, really, than hand-wringing. I'm more of a shudderer.)
October 30, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know, I just think you have to consider what it takes to make a successful run at the presidency in America. I mean, think about it. He's got organizations in 50 states on the ground. He's collecting donations, he's organizing events. He's making infomercials. That's juggling a lot of bowling balls and chainsaws. On top of that, he has to communicate coherent policies to a majority of voters. I don't get the slightest 'ominous' or creepy vibes from the man. Not in the slightest. I think he is the real deal. McCain on the other hand, not only cannot organize fish in a barrel, he is incoherent, deceptive, and dishonorable. In spite of that McCain has a sizeable constituency. I think his supporters are all stupid, but there it is. So far both candidates have raised 1.2 billion and Obama has been on the trail for 18 months.
In Canada a candidate cannot spend more than 6 weeks or 18 million dollars. But then, again, they have national health care. So much for American exceptionalism.
October 30, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seemed that you were complaining about the film, its sound, its camera work, its content. You seemed to overlook the fact that this was for a "specialized" audience, not you, the already overly informed.
This was HIS presidential campaign film.
Thats why I said, if YOU want to make the commercial, run for President and then you will know all that you have to consider in producing such...just like Barack had to.
THEN you will know why he did what he did and will know that it was hard work on top of 2 years of hard work, with 4 more years to come of really hard work .
If you can't EVEN imagine what all this takes, and have to nit pick suggesting he is a "propagandist" when you know damn well he isn't, it says more about you than it does him.
Give the guy a break, settle down. Go for a walk in the sunshine.
You've become accustomed to living in fear just like Bushco wanted you...you may now be brave.
October 31, 2008 12:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I definitely hear where you're coming from, and one of my European co-workers definitely winced when she saw the massive dollops of "Americana," as she called it, that the campaign was dishing out.
I too felt like it was overly conventional, but then I realized that Obama plays it safe because of his foreignness; he has to drape himself in hokey patriotic imagery in order to normalize himself for a wary audience. A white male candidate might be more able to think outside of the box in terms of art and design, and do something a bit more visually striking. It's also inspiring to me see what else he was normalizing -- you have the UAW guy, phonebanking for his union, slipped in with amber waves and flags and so on. I thought it was special that they included this imagery in the American tableaux, because the corporate media have always aggressively excluded the labor movement from public consciousness.
It's also nice to note that I spoke with an elderly relative last night, who is openly racist and fearful of black people, who watched the program and actually changed her mind about the guy. If you knew this woman, you'd be really amazed by the change.
October 30, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, the film was NOT for all who are over-loaded with info on this man and his campaign. It was for all those little old folks who didn't quite get it yet.
This hand-wringing over his film is as silly as the "orange alert level."
October 30, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
A poll just out today shows that 23 percent of the state of Texas believes that Barack Obama is a Muslim. This is almost entirely due to a nonstop campaign of lies and smears that has painted him as foreign-born, a terrorist, a Communist, a former drug pusher, gay, deceitful, and anti-American.
In the face of this withering personal assault, Obama's campaign produced and aired a 30-minute political ad which was 100-percent positive. It never mentioned his opponent. It refuted the smears by presenting the essential truth of what kind of guy Obama really is -- albeit against a backdrop of soaring music and amber waves of grain.
I do not see what the problem is. It's easy enough to take a high-minded stand and deplore this or that bit of populist excess. But we've seen a long series of Democratic candidates wage high-minded, admirable, intellectually rigorous and losing campaigns. I for one am sick of it.
ULYSSES would still be a great novel if you slapped a beautiful glossy cover on it, and included a gushing blurb from Britney Spears. Obama would be the same guy if he fired his ad team, sat down at an unadorned table, broke out the pie charts, and lost the election.
Nobody would question your sincerity in raising these points. But I do think you're kind of crazy, or maybe just awfully politically naive. Your use of the term "propaganda" is defensible but nonetheless offensive, in my opinion. One might equally use terms like "sophistry" in connection with this sort of discussion.
It's as though somebody offered you a choice: You can see this man elected President, or you can see this man dragged through the street in sackcloth and ashes, but ultimately canonized by historians and remembered as the purest and noblest candidate who ever lost a race for the White House. And you stood there fretting, unable to choose.
October 30, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I completely agree with this post. I must say I don't quite understand what the blogger's gripe is. I'm not sure how one sells oneself to a mass audience (particularly a mass American audience among whom Copeland and Spielberg touches would have great resonance) without employing some form of what overthinkers would call "propaganda." I sometimes think liberals expect too much from politicians, which is why I'm glad that in many ways Barack Obama has ignored his "base" and done what he feels is best to win.
October 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ya mean me? I'm still here. You can always just post a reply and ask for clarification. Or, you can post to someone else and call me names like overthinker.
I think Obama was doing a pretty good job up until yesterday, don't you? The speeches? The standard spots? Remember that minute-long commercial where it's just Obama sitting there talking? By last night, all that had brought Obama to what many pollsters currently consider a victory.
Just because I write things you disagree with, doesn't mean I'm the bad guy.
October 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama as gay? Wow. Hadn't heard that one yet.
To me, what sets Obama apart from Kerry and Gore isn't merely his use of logos and marketing strategies. Far from it. Obama exudes so many leadership qualities just in the way he makes his case on various issues. He approaches these issues from different perspectives. He doesn't dismiss conservatism as a failed ideology. He finds common ground. He's intellectually honest with himself. He shows his work. His manner of debate shows this. His speeches demonstrate this. This is what's new on our ticket in '08, and this is why voters like him so much.
If you took offense at my use of "propaganda," you must have misunderstood what I mean. Uncle Sam, pointing from the poster--that's propaganda. Chewed up, digestible arguments for the masses. Propaganda can do good. But it's a blunt weapon--blunt because it creates a general impression, not a very precise one, and a weapon because like a gun, it has no moral agency of its own. As I said in another post, maybe it's a necessary evil to get our man into the White House, but we should certainly expect to find it in Republican hands, perhaps used even more effectively then.
October 30, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Election campaigns are TOTALLY an exercise in marketing. You have a product (the candidate) to sell (the election itself is a sales transaction) to buyers (the voters) against a competitor (the other party's candidate).
How many election losers would have been a better president than the election winner? We only have to look to Gore and Kerry for recent examples. Their ability to be a good performing president (a good performing product) didn't matter because the marketing of that product was so poor buyers didn't correctly perceive their choice.
Although the marketing of candidates may strike you as creepy or cheesy, marketing is the essence of what a democratic election campaign is and should be. The challenge for voters - as for buyers of any kind of product - is to separate the necessary marketing campaign from the actual value of the product that's being marketed.
The problem for Obama is that our experience as consumers, of both goods and of politicians, tells us that a well marketed product is not fully what it seems. Our reflexive B.S. detectors go off. We assume there must be some hidden catch. Is the marketing campaign revealing a great product, or is a great marketing campaign hiding a poor product?
However, good marketing doesn't automatically signal a poor product. Because great products are uncommon we are naturally a bit skeptical. Quality political candidates are more uncommon to our experience than are quality products. It is, of course, rare to encounter a candidate who is both well marketed and of quality. Obama is such a candidate.
October 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
A lot of good points here! Thanks. Just a nitpicky thing, though, about your third paragraph: if, as you say, "marketing is the essence of what a democratic election campaign is and should be," should it really be that way, if the voter then has to turn around and--again, quoting your post--"to separate the necessary marketing campaign from the actual value of the product that's being marketed"? I understand that this is what happens, but I wonder if in this particular respect the marketplace is actually a good model for elections? [Sorry, not enough commas.] What else of value do we get from the market idea? I never took any college-level economics or business, so something obvious to you might not have even occurred to me.
October 30, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The key to understanding why it should be that way is to ask what the alternative is. No degree in economics required here, just think through the alternatives and their implication.
For instance; should we legislate that everyone tell the truth? Aside from the fight over what is truth and who decides that, just imagine the entrenched "government" powers who would get to enforce such legislation. It would be a huge mess at least, and a totalitarian take-over at worst.
Our situation reminds me of the old joke that goes; capitalism sucks as of economic system - it's just that it's better than every other kind. That's how open and free democratic election of leadership is, it sucks, but is better than every other means.
If we really want our political processes and discourse to change, we, as voters, must first change. Politicians behave the way they do because voters respond to that behavior. If misbehaving or nasty politicians were punished by us voters such behavior would stop. Successful politicians are a reflection of the electorate.
October 30, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this was Gore or Kerry doing this I would probably be a little turned off by it. But, Obama has always had such a high hurdle that I have to give him a pass. This stuff doesn't appeal to me but probably does for 75% of the country. Liked the Obama/Bill C. rally much better at the end of the night!
October 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The political junkies like us were never the target.
I agree that the ad was a bit schmaltzy, but it was positive and about himself. As Josh said on the front page, could McCain or Palin talk about themselves for 30 minutes without an attack?
This was for the undecideds and the nervous about Obama's "otherness" that McCain-Palin keep hammering him on.
This also may help reassure some of the RW that isn't unhinged, that Obama wil not be dangerous to America. It's sad that he has to do this.
October 30, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It depends on your definition of creepy.
All campaigns are propaganda. Unfortunately we're still a society where the casual person doesn't recognize when they're witnessing propaganda. I find the Obamamercial creepy in the same respect I find some Disney movies creepy: I don't relate to it and I don't often carry a gauzy, overly-sentimental, americana, sentiment.
With that said however a lot of people do relate to it. And it may be over-compensating on Obama's part but he's had the unique task of having to prove himself "American" and "safe". This was something he probably needed to do for people who hold the antiquated notion that Americanism is white bread, cornfields, country-side, big trucks, and names like "Butch" as opposed to principles that tie us all together.
October 30, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get a grip.
October 30, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a grip. Perhaps I should let go?
;^)
October 30, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone who could shudder and get creepy over this infomercial probably is overly emotional for some other reason. I doubt you can really point to this film as the culprit, it must be projection.
But if you had written about what really gives you the creeps, it mightn't have had Obama in it and you wouldn't have gotten all this attention.
They did a study on people...and who was fearful and who wasn't. Conservatives were easily frightened and liberals held their cool.
Maybe you're a conservative if you are afraid of Obama?
Or maybe you're not really scared?
October 30, 2008 11:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not scared, really. More worried, I guess, that too many people will be turned off by the manipulative nature of the genre. But as others have pointed out, if this reaches the target audience in the intended way, then all is achieved. The enemies will remain enemies, allies allies.
You were right about taking a walk. I'm going to do that now.
October 31, 2008 7:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
You were already on board. Our fellow americans are made up of many different world views. I do not think this ad was meant for you. I think it was meant for those who are unsure but have heard a lot of garbage. Perhaps these people are more security based and apt to believe things they hear or see on TV (ie negative attacks). This commercial then gives a chance for those people to have more information that might allow them to feel more comfortable choosing senator Obama. Safety and security world view tend to believe more of what they see and hear so I think the ad was very important for them.
October 30, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me preface this by saying - I like pie.
That being said I understand your revulsion in the face of waving fields of grain and touching stories from down-home folk. I like Obama, I'm planning on voting for him but whenever I get too happy I remind myself - he's a politician. And politicians are scumbags -especially ones that run for president.
But, and, also...he's run a really clean campaign compared to McCain who has done little but throw mudpies to see what sticks. I think this was an attempt to reach middle america and fight against the "scary black man" crap McCain and friends have tried to lay on them without indulging in same kind of red-faced,spittle-spraying idiot baiting McCain seems to thrive on.
I do have hope he'll be a decent president - but I'll be ready to start complaining about the Obama administration the minute he takes office.
October 30, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Tippecanoe and Tyler, Too", anybody? Was that not propoganda?
I don't like the commercialization/commodification of all things, as it appears to exist in American life. Yet, I'm a total sucker for packaging on an aesthetic level, as well. Just have to try and keep your bullshit meter tuned up as much as possible.
Ah, the connundrum...
October 30, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
For years Democrats have complained because our candidates seem clueless as to how elections are won--Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry. Now we have a candidate who, like Bill Clinton before him, understands how persuadable voters make decisions (hint, it is more of an emotional process than an intellectual one for persuadables), and Democrats are complaining because it feels creepy.
October 30, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
My feelings precisely. Perhaps he should have posed in a tank with a helmet on or something. What in God's name do you want him to do? Get on TV and make with dry little lectures about how everybody should eat more dietary fiber and less refined sugar?
This is a black guy who handed Hillary Clinton her ass in the primaries and is about to be elected President. Do you get, at all, that anyone who's achieved that might have a tiny clue what he's doing? He's WINNING, for heaven's sake. The appropriate response to that is "Great, congratulations!," not a bunch of petty niggling about his choice of musical background to his commercials. He's acting presidential, discussing the issues, staying away from personal smears, and WINNING by doing all of the above -- and you think his camera work isn't quite right? God help the left. Maybe you have some investment advice for Buffett, too, or a few well-chosen words for Spielberg on how to direct movies.
October 30, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're not too good at the whole "disagreeing" thing, are you? Well, for starters, learn a trick from Obama and try to see where the other person is actually coming from, rather than ridiculing, caricaturing, and otherwise misrepresenting the person's views to make yourself feel better. Gosh, read what you posted. God help the left, indeed...
October 30, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks legalcat, my sentiments exactly.
The man was doing his JOB, that Obama.
October 31, 2008 1:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Years? Try centuries.
Tippecanoe & Tyler too! was from 1840. Jackson's brand was Man of the People. How many candidates were born in log cabins, or claimed to be?
So I don't understand the point of this post, or the use of the word propaganda which has, to say the least, a negative connotation.
You didn't like it?
Thought it was too schmaltzy?
Fine. Different strokes for different folks.
But what did you expect from a 30 minute mass-marketed infomerical? A narration of Obama's policy proposals via computer monotone?
October 30, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I shouldn't have put "propaganda" in the title--it's obvious to me now. Some 80 years ago, people had no problem describing their own actions as propaganda. Today apparently people think it's an insult. Sorry. Didn't mean it that way.
It's not that it was schmaltzy. What bothers me is the way in which Obama's argument is enhanced by the manipulation of countless parameters that have nothing to do with the candidate's platform. I think it's playing with fire.
Do you really not understand the point of my post, or do you just disagree?
October 30, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
WC, I sympathize, I really do. I'm sick of the engineered sentiment, too, but he'll need it come spring when the public is calling for blood. No sensible man or woman would want the shitstorm he's about to inherit.
October 30, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you really mean that because this infomercial showed images of Obama relating to ordinary citizens, or discussing events from his life and the lives of others, in ways that didn't explicitly connect to his policies, he was "playing with fire"—then I, for one, don't understand the point of your post.
I think the connections were there for everyone to make, for example when a woman was shown struggling to pay for her medications, then Obama outlined his health care proposals in specific terms. This is the same technique politicians use all the time when they talk about someone they've met on the campaign trail and how their policies will affect that person, only this time it was done visually. As others have already pointed out on this thread, there are those who don't relate well to intellectual abstractions but understand visual narrative. It's the same argument, just a different way of making it.
I don't understand what you consider dangerous or creepy about this form of communication?
October 30, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you're probably right about not using "propaganda" in the title.
After the Nazis and Communists in particular, people associate this word negatively, rather than neutrally.
As a marketing professional, I admire the way Obama's campaign has been "packaged." It seems to me the arguments have been made in an ethical way, and the message itself has been highly positive. (This is in direct contrast to the negative, unethical messages out there.)
As for the 30-minute film, its target audience was not "the base," but those who have waited until now to pay attention (yes, those people do exist). I felt it was a knockout for that niche: "regular" people, common problems, reassuring tones of voice, natural manner.
People "think" emotionally for the most part, and this piece was a high positive. Even if "propaganda."
October 31, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
"George Orwell meets Walt Disney" is how I would describe it.
October 31, 2008 4:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I jumped to the end without reading all of the earlier comments, so this may have been said many times already. I hope it has. Obama, Axelrod, and the rest of the O team are trying to win this election. If that means offending my own highly developed esthetic, I am fine with this. Really, I am fine with whatever it takes, short of telling lies and hurting people, to get the executive branch back in the hands of non-monsters. And even a little misrepresentation (about, say, whether all of those plans for jobs and windmills can really happen in this battered, no-longer great country) is probably okay. I was frustrated during the first debate when Obama didn't confront McCain for being a liar and a fool. I thought the debate was boring, a squandered opportunity, and a draw. I thought the high road, decency thing was a mistake. Then the insta-polls started coming in, and I realized that my opinions were silly. These people know what they are doing, and what they are doing is propaganda and marketing for a good cause. Get over it. I have given Obama some of my money to do this, and he and his people do it amazingly well. I was thrilled and moved by last night's infomercial because I could see that it was steadily moving tenths of a point to Obama's column from the undecided column. If doing that takes waving wheat, Copeland, Barry Manilow, banalities, flags, puppy dogs, closeups of arthritic hands, more flags, whatever, I don't care. This is serious business. We are fighting bad people who have almost destroyed our country. I would give half my net worth to be able to
take Obama's team back to 2000 or 2004 and turn them loose on W and Karl Rove. And if they want to keep doing this after Obama gets elected, so they have a better chance at a second term, I will be pleased.
October 30, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps you meant "framing"? And perhaps we should remember that television, as both medium and message, accounts for a good part of that?
You were not watching a president; you were watching a _candidate_ for the office of President of the United States summing up his case for the us the jury. Every lawyer must have his style not only his brilliant grasp of the facts.
I take from your post that you hope he won't pull out all the stops, or have violins accompanying his patter when he faces the nation as president- from the oval office or any place else. But I don't think you have no worries there. The job definition will have changed.
As for propaganda, I know the meaning of the term from WW2 days, so it may not have quite the right connotation if viewed that way. Viewed as I dare say you meant it- the Hallmark stuff- it seems a necessary part of all campaigning. No? The flags, the venues, the hoisting of babies, etc, even the lipstick and the clothes? These props massage and seduce us. Would you do without any of it?
As for pie charts, I'll take 3: one onion, one eggplant red and a clam with white sauce all smalls from Modern in New Haven.
October 30, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't the target audience for this infomercial, as I've done my research and made my decision a long time ago. So, I don't know how to judge what this did for an undecided or low-information voter.
But, as far as propaganda goes, it may have been necessary to take that approach. After all, he's fighting a negative propaganda campaign. People have viscerally negative responses based on his skin color or his middle name and all these lies spread around about him. To counter that he would need to strike an emotional chord, not just an intellectual one.
October 31, 2008 12:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm.
I thought it was maybe a little too slick, too.
Still, it did allow Obama to tie policy bites to a narrative, and to present all the stuff he's been talking about on the trail in the context of a cohesive theme -- with really touching stories about real people to tie it all together. It was good, on balance, I think.
October 30, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The marketing strategies I abhor, mainly because it seems that the ends of politics (common good) and the ends of business (maximum profits) are different enough that even when borrowing techniques from one another, some legitimate kind of differentiation should occur- so bravo on that.
What I wonder about, though (and this is a preacher talking, so put in your salt grain), is the assumption (tacit in the post, explicit in the comment section) that a voter's evaluation of a candidate ought rely primarily, even entirely, upon a reasonable assessment of policy.
I think it was on Politico today, where a commenter claimed that this Infomercial demonstrated BO's 'emotional intelligence' and 'compassion,' and celebrated those as tools for effective leadership; 'soft power' was the phrase used. That strikes me as correct, in that rational policy ideas during a campaign are valuable, but as President, the candidate will a) not get it all done, and so b) need more than thoughtful ideas in order to solve problems.
Of course, BO has tried to communicate his effective 'soft power' for years now, only to have it ridiculed as 'hype,' or 'celebrity,' or 'style sans substance'. Listen to his vocal inflection, his rhythmic patterns of speech, etc. So I wonder, to get back to things, if Aaron Copland-esque, or those amber waves of grain (which looked more like a scene from 'Gladiator' to me) communicated, or tried to, non-rational capacities this candidate has for capable coalition building, consensus seeking, vision casting...i.e. leadership?
That said, the "History Chanel" comparison was spot on, perhaps a bit too much so for comfort.
October 30, 2008 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Preacher. You're right about my assumptions--sometimes it helps to have others point it out. Also, I think that when I replied to Tena, I was sort of replying to you, too.
October 31, 2008 8:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
The simplest question: Why would Obama make any more c a m p a i g n films like this after he wins the Presidency?
There is no there there in your "reasons to worry" closet.
Likewise, Obama hopes you will not be this overly fearful quaking in your boots guy, after the election.
October 31, 2008 12:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm really wondering where anyone gets the idea that personality wasn't always a factor in elections in this country. Just because there was no television back when this all got started, that doesn't mean personality had no part in it. It certainly did and it always has because people, you tend to forget - we're dealing with human beings here. Humans are endlessly fascinated with one thing above all else - themselves and other humans. Not policy, not viscerally.
If you don't think George Washington was elected strictly on who he was and his demeanor, then I'd like hear the policy positions he was holding - besides not wanting to be king.
Jeeze - this has never been some Utopia where engaged voters weighed all the policies and made a decision strictly because of those. Because this is a place where people vote. And people always are interested in personality and looks and always have been and always will be.
October 31, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Washington also believed that party division was a bad thing, and that the new nation should avoid entanglements in foreign lands. But he may not be the best example, since he wasn't exactly elected on a platform, being the only president in history to run unopposed.
In any event, I agree with your larger point that personality always plays a role in people's choices on election day. It's often said that particularly in these rapidly changing times, what people are looking for isn't a candidate with a particular set of policies, but one whose heart is in the right place, who has the character to make the right choice in unexpected situations. I think Obama's 30-minute spot was perfectly targeted to people like that.
October 31, 2008 1:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that's true... but I think there are also some rational voters out there, too -- folks who don't respond to emotional appeals, particularly when they're ham-handed. Not that this presentation was ham-handed... I don't think it was.
That said, I think we do tend to make pretty quick judgments about people based on their look, bearing, their tone of voice and patterns of speech, body language, etc. Sometimes those judgments are the most powerful ones we can make, and weigh most heavily in deciding who to choose as friend or foe.
I don't think that's always a bad thing, either. We may be naturally wired up that way... maybe even for good old-fashioned evolutionary reasons.
October 31, 2008 1:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, as always, for putting things into perspective. Someone else, I think, also pointed out my implicit assumption that everyone will, or should, vote based on policy. You're right that there's always been more to it than that. Moreover, maybe--I'm still not sure about it, but just maybe--that's okay.
October 31, 2008 7:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I generally agree with the dissenters from the post. Obama's playing a game here, and the rules of this particular game (for time immemorial) require something like what we saw on Wednesday night.
To be fair, though, recalling New10's comment above, I think doing his/her own modest part to "punish" this particular manifestation of campaign politics is precisely what worthless (there's really no way around this name calling thing in some cases, is there?) is doing with this post. Fair enough. If he/she can convert enough people to this preference, change will be coming. (Yes he/she can!)
I know if Obama was making a campaign commercial for just me and the inevitable but abstract handful of people who think just like me, it would look drastically different than what aired Wednesday night. In that sense, I didn't like it either. As it is, I'm grateful Obama knows I and my meager crop of brilliant but PAC-less adherents aren't enough to get him elected.
I would replace "propaganda" with "pandering." That's really what the stylistic elements of (successful) campaign politics are: a pander to the broadest subset of people paying any attention.
Interesting thread.
October 31, 2008 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
oops. More specifically, "a pander to the aesthetics of the broadest subset of people paying any attention."
While I'm replying to my own comment: As an analogy, I've noticed some actors and directors do a blockbuster every now and then so they can maintain the resources and exposure to do the films they know have less mass appeal but think are important . . .
October 31, 2008 2:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the response. For some reason, I always seem to pick handles that suggest (or are) insults. I guess I never thought about the implications!
October 31, 2008 7:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome post, worthlesscitizen! Well stated.
Consider the following: this is not Obama's ideal of what he would prefer to show, this is what needs to be on to convince voters. It's the best piece of propaganda that many minds could buy. Be assured this infomercial was thoroughly tested and retested with focus groups.
In other words, this is what appeals to the Americans in the middle of the spectrum. Pure emotion -- words that sound good but remain vague -- images of what we imagine America to be.
Notice that most of those people weren't going to office jobs (e.g. engineers, middle managers, etc.) These people are hurting as well. They, too, are part of the middle class.
And Obama either figures he already has them (they drink lattes) or can't reach them or wouldn't be cost effective to get them.
Such is American politics. Americans are more like children in their politics than many countries -- and that includes the left side of things. It's what Obama feels he needs to secure the election and begin leading.
But this isn't a policy piece, it's a campaigning piece. I am assuming that rational minds will prevail on Nov 5, 2008.
Thank you again for writing this... I wish I could recommend it twice.
Now: go back and finish your thesis! Good luck!
October 31, 2008 2:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the kind note. You're right, and others who posted similar positions are, too. If I were conversing with myself (any of y'all ever do that as an exercise?), I suppose this would have been the opposing argument for me to make. Campaigning is marketing, marketing employs propaganda, and I should fight back the fear-vomit.
As long as the target audience doesn't find this kind of marketing to be overly manipulative, then I say sure, let's take it forward.
Fun thread, everyone.
Now I need a coffee.
October 31, 2008 7:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Worthlesscitizen,
You certainly have expressed very, very, well something that has troubled me about Obama from the very beginning. There is some mixture of George Orwell meets Walt Disney that repels me deeply.
Somehow, someone that has appeared literally "out of the blue" is infused with some sort of holy aura. What it most reminds me of from my dirty hippie days of yore, is of "ashrama", the hot house climate of an Indian ashram, where the guru's every nose picking becomes a cause for worship, is treasured, celebrated and collected.
Despite all the gushing followers, I can't get a clear view of what Obama is, was, what he wants (besides power) or what he will do if elected.
If, after so much money has been spent over so many months and the candidate still appears all things to all men, then I don't think that this is by chance: I think that that this is the general idea, the effect desired.
What astonishes and offends me is how people are painting in the empty spaces with their own fantasies and dreams. It reminds me of previous "great awakenings" where Americans sold everything and sat in fields waiting for the second coming.
Next comes the "Great Hangover".
I once tried to express it with an image, which you can see by clicking here.
October 31, 2008 4:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Two quick points:
- The Disney comparison goes only so far. Obama's image is positive, simple and attractive, but it isn't mired in early 20th century ideology like Disney is.
- I'm not sure what your experiences have been, but (1) the "gushing followers" are only a fraction of Obama's electorate--what is this, 1972?--, and (2) Obama has made his plans extremely accessible; bragging about being ignorant of Obama's positions is like bragging about not owning a television. It's not actually an achievement, and it makes it seem to others like you want people to think you're unique. If I misunderstand you, please tell me.
October 31, 2008 7:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think it is possible to follow Senator Obama's rapidly evolving positions over the few years he has been in the public eye and still not come away with a clear idea of who he is and where he stands.
That is unless you simply take him at his word... which would put you firmly with the "gushers".
October 31, 2008 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Contrary to the cynicism aired here, I consider Obama more of a sincere and humble politician than most. If you understand his cultural upbringing--as a local boy from Hawai'i--you would be less suspicious of his traits.
Obama demonstrates that it's possible for a politician to be savvy yet humble; driven, as well, as diplomatic. He doesn't fit the stereotype most Americans associate with politicians.
However, Obama's polish and poise puts him at odds with the current presidential model our country has gotten used to: Dubya. Yikes. I hate to say this but CHANGE also makes people uncomfortable!
So, the whole point is that Obama has to be like a surgeon and introduce his brand in familiar, positive ways. He's got only so much time to make his case above all the noise from the McCain campaign. Call it propoganda... but what ISN'T propoganda especially at election time?
The infomercial was a necessary move--Obama's "check," if you will. Now, we wait for Obama's "check mate" and that has me on edge. My fingers are crossed that McCain's undisciplined, reactionary campaign continues to devolve.
October 31, 2008 6:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another critique in the usual armchair-ish way.
What price the propaganda/smears/innuendos from the other side for the past 8 years to till date, which, incidentally, we are fighting right now ?
May be you should go & live in Utopia.
October 31, 2008 7:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
We were sitting on the sofa when it aired. What were you doing, standing? Not sure I follow.
October 31, 2008 7:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
That was $ 0.02... just like yours.
October 31, 2008 8:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can you give me the address?
October 31, 2008 7:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I sure will when I find one.
October 31, 2008 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Goin' back to Eden ..."
October 31, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
You thought the infomercial was creepy propaganda. Others thought it was positive, emotional and uplifting. Is there something wrong with them, or is there something wrong with you? That is not a rhetorical question.
October 31, 2008 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought it invoked Polanski in his Knife in the Water period, with a bit of tribute to the French New Wave, though the timelines had something of Tarantino influence mixed in with Spike Jonez.
October 31, 2008 8:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
no. they are not exclusive of each other.
it was positive, emotional, and uplifting. it was also propaganda. although i find creepy a bit of an exaggeration in this case.
October 31, 2008 9:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't referring to you, worthlesscitizen. I was referring to Obama's marketing campaign: It could have used some humor once in a while.
October 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
NB: For those who aren't entirely sure what constitutes propaganda, here's what propaganda is.*
*worthlesscitizen, this comment doesn't apply to you.
October 31, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
T h a n k y o u ! ! !
October 31, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I especially most apt this part of the Wikipedia piece:
October 31, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Glittering generalities aren't far off. I hope people get a sense of how utterly commonplace these techniques are.
October 31, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is an enormously serious moment for the United States and the rest of the world and that this gravity is compounded by the fact that the process of electing the president of the USA simply isn't serious anymore. I cannot believe that the two candidates who are running are the best two people that a country of 300,000,000 people could have found to lead them. "George Orwell meets Walt Disney", I'll stick with that.
October 31, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
David, how you can say that Obama appeared out of the clear blue (like some alien) is beyond me. The man is 47 years old with 47 year long biography. It would seem that facts and history aren't the source of your problem with Obama.
You may not believe his biography but that is a choice by you, not a reflection on him.
It is, of course, your American right to feel creeped-out about whomever you please for whatever reasons you please. But understand that is all you have, a feeling, not logic or rational analysis.
October 31, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well done, WC. And like I said, Rec'd for sheer courage! ;-)
October 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. It's funny. When you mentioned "sheer courage" the first time, I wondered what the hell you were talking about. Then the walls caved in.
October 31, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh no, you've become another one of those evil people who think there is an "Obama is a genius and can do no wrong" contingent on this website? It's very simple to follow the zeitgeist: no analyzing of his ads allowed, they are all brilliant. If you want everyone to take it easy on you, you should do posts like quite a few others do--example:
:-)
October 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!! As Homer Simpson once said, "It's funny 'cause it's true."
October 31, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Blah, blah, blah!
This is what bugs me about libs, just speak your mind and stop trying to impress people with your grammatically erroneous prose!
Obamma will have many chances w/o his speech writers and prompters to make gaffe after gaffe.
At least Bush was funny! Obamma puts me to sleep...which, come to think of it is probably exactly what he is trying to acomplish - so that the islamic militants will be able to take over our country whilst we snore in front of Obammavision.
November 10, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink