Interview with the Troll: The Troll Chronicles
"I see," said the troll thoughtlessly, and then slowly stumbled across the room.
"But how many posts do you have for me to comment on," the Troll asked.
"Enough for a troll, I think," said the Boy.

"Then let's begin, dickwad," said the troll, turning on the light.
"But I thought trolls didn't like the light," said the Boy, who wanted to say more but halted, he knew trolls were prone to hurl out insults at anyone for no reason other than to get attention. It was something in their blood. They had no control over it. But he had responded to the Troll and now here they were.
"Oh my God," said the boy as the harsh yellow light flooded the room, exposing the troll for the first time. His skin was white and damaged like bleached bone. But it was the troll's eyes which most caught the Boy's attention. They were lifeless and dark, as if all hope and knowledge had been drained from them.
"You haven't always been a troll, have you?" asked the boy.
"No, I was once like you," said the Troll, slowly shaking his head,
leaving clouds of dandruff billowing throughout the room like an
asbestos shower.
The troll began his story: "I have been a troll for as long as I can remember. Like, say, about 1,200 days or so. The time all blends together after awhile. It seems like forever. Fucker."
The troll's story was at once mesmerizing and horrifying. From his early days in the Web sites on French Quarter of New Orleans, where he'd write "Swim faster" to those who saw Katrina ruin their lives, to scribbling "See how Muslims are?" on message boards during the riots in France. His was a story of loneliness, desperation and an unholy evil.
"So that's the accent, I'd have never guessed it was French," said the Boy.
The troll stopped. His preternatural stupidness was striking.
"French?!?! French?!? Are you kidding me? French? Those socialist bastards would have German accents if it weren't for the U.S." the Troll squealed.
The Boy tried to maintain his calm. He knew trolls were prone to automatic responses toward nearly any comment. He chose his next words carefully.
"How did you become a troll?" asked the Boy, his face tense with amazement.
The Troll chuckled. "For a while, I thought about how I had become this. Who had made me this way," the troll stopped, tantalizingly drumming together his fingertips. "Then I kinda just forgot about it and kept doing what I was doing. You liberal jackass."
The reporter was afraid. He knew the Troll was ready for an outburst. He watched the Troll closely. He was an amazing specimen. Not an ounce of regret, emotion or even thought appeared to reflect on the troll's face. What they said was true - these were not humans, but something else entirely.
"So you don't know who made you this way?" the reporter asked.
The troll stretched. The reporter could see the troll's fingers, calloused and gnarled from years of hunting and pecking on a keyboard.
"Not really. It could have been Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter or even Wally George or Morton Downey Jr., you know, one of the leaders of the troll coven. The trolls with true powers. Or it could have just been a regular troll like myself. I just remember meeting one at Little Green Footballs. I felt a chill and suddenly I saw things differently. Suddenly a complex world had been made black and white. 'What's happening to me? I asked the other troll.
"'You're soul is dying' he laughed. 'Don't worry, it happens to all of us,' " the Troll said, looking at the Boy's wide eyes. "I was afraid, just as you are now. You pansy."
The Boy let the insult go by without a reaction. Then he realized that was agitating the Troll even more, but the Troll continued.
"Then it was the 2000 Election. And I gave in to it. Whenever I saw the name 'Al Gore,' I immediately wrote comments about him inventing the Internet or being the lead character in 'Love Story.'"
The Troll looked at the Boy with disdain.
"You're a real liberal piece of shit, aren't you?" the Troll asked.
The Boy couldn't help himself. He made the ultimate error when dealing with a troll. He looked offended . As quick as lightning, the Troll started to feed uncontrollably:
"You politically correct commie bastard! You want universal health care like the rest of the commies but taxes, taxes will raise. Like Norway, you fascist piece of crap. Always trying to shut down debate. You probably like Hillary. You and the socialist paper you work for. Liberal media. Iraq, so what? We have to kill terrorists! You love terrorists though, don't you??? George Soros is paying you, isn't he! Ronald Reagan is a genius! Trickle Down economy! Global warming is a myth!"
The Troll paused momentarily. The Boy was horrified but somehow attracted, the Troll was making no sense whatsoever, as is their way. The Troll took one last breath and screamed:
"Bill Clinton's Penis!!!!!"
The Troll collapsed, momentarily sated. His body had been craving the copious amounts of random and stupid comments he so desperately needed to survive. The Boy was still. Afraid to move, afraid to speak. The Troll lolled back in his chair, drool coming from the side of his mouth, a dazed look in his mostly vacant eyes. Then he was back.
"Shit that was good," the Troll said. "Anyway, since then, all I've done is go from site to site, 18 to 22 hours a day, looking for keywords so I could feed. You'd think people would learn, but they'd always respond to be, notice me. And I'd feed.
The Boy was sweating profusely now. The story was so, so, lame. He didn't understand. But the Boy realized he rarely understood much. He was part of the mainstream media, after all. He wasn't prone to thinking things through or making sense of anything, anyway. Suddenly the reporter knew what had to be done. He dropped his pen and leaped from the table.
"Please, make me a troll!" the reporter shouted.
The troll was slightly confused.
"What?"
The reporter was adamant, his face flushed.
"Please, make me a troll. I need this. I want this life. This is what I need!"
The troll shrugged.
"Ok, you're a troll. There."
"That was it?" asked the reporter, somewhat stunned at how easy it was.
"Yeah, you just have to want to be one. It's always somewhat amazing that there are people that want this, but so be it. You're a troll."
With that the Troll was gone, vanishing in a cloud of Cheet-o dust and smoke.
The Boy raced to his car and drove recklessly toward his home. To his computer. He had trolling to do.
Next: The Troll Limbaugh.
Brilliant poster provided by Melissa McEwan. (This is David Koechner, btw)
-WKW















I think I know this troll.
You forgot about the smell....
October 14, 2009 7:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
William - I think the interesting thing is that those of us accused of being a "troll" (aka someone who disagrees with the Left) are not the ones slinging the insults.
October 14, 2009 7:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ironic, huh?
October 14, 2009 7:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha ha!
October 14, 2009 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
"You are a partisan, pure and simple, with a decided lack of objectivity or tact or grace."
Introspect much?
October 14, 2009 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm starting to think Jason and MCB are the same person. Wherever one appears, the other soon follows.
October 14, 2009 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
You aren't the only one who thinks this.
PS. I think these troll are so desperate for attention they announce that they are trolls and THEN get mad at (who?) for thinking they are...
Like: "I KNOW THIS POST IS ABOUT MEEEE MANN..."
But yeah, definitely the same person. Besides, what self-respecting middle class person calls himself "Middle Class _____" as a handle?
October 17, 2009 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I missed the nasty words and insults in that quote, but perhaps you have a different definition of what that means.
October 14, 2009 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The meaning of the sentence is insulting, mean and nasty. You think that because you phrase your insults in sentences instead of single words you are not being insulting,mean and nasty.
October 14, 2009 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I prefer Jason's style over someone who just says "Fuck off troll", "Shut the fuck up", "Suck my dick", "Asshole!!", or "That just proves you are a Glenn Buck ass-licker". Those are the types of comments I get all the time
October 14, 2009 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? Here on TPM, or are you lumping the Left all together as one giant mass moving as one, because that would be the GOP.
hehehe okay, show me!!! Gotta link?!?
October 15, 2009 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, I am not generalizing for the entire population. My comment was specific to TPM.
October 15, 2009 5:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, because whikle STFU is unusual, it happens, but I cannot recall seeing people use those other expressions.
No links, huh?
October 15, 2009 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did post links in a separate comment but I got a response say that my comment is "under review" by the blog owner. Never saw that before.
October 15, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/middleclassbill/2009/08/waterboarding---it-worked.php#comment-3575458
October 15, 2009 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/tankard2/2009/07/all-liberals-are-guilty-racist.php#comment-3525148
October 15, 2009 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/noblecommentdecider/2009/10/chicagos-last-place-in-ioc-vot.php#comment-3622012
October 15, 2009 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's another good one, although not directed at me personally.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/jasoneverettmiller/2009/09/tpm-cafe-versus-red-state.php#comment-3599602
October 15, 2009 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/21/the_rally_against_obamacare_for_the_banks/index.php#comment-3609605
October 15, 2009 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! That's pretty awful stuff! Can you figure out why you generate such an extreme reaction, or do you simly think they are liberals and on TPM and that's what we do?
October 15, 2009 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
They have equally distasteful opinions on issues, but you don't see me responding to their comments in the same manner.
I consider myself a pretty moderate Republican. Not a birther, not a right-winger, not a racist, not a Rush worshipper, etc.
So I'm really not sure why there's such hostility to me and most of the other conservatives here at TPM. I don't know why people can't just discuss the issues rather than scream.
October 15, 2009 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I get the same comments, Gregor, so the fact that you have a hard time believing this is how all republicans (myself included) get treated here by long-time and popular bloggers is quite telling.
October 16, 2009 6:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
To each his own. I'm glad you agree that Jason was being insulting. I prefer the more succinct versions -- takes less time to ignore them.
October 15, 2009 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Again, why not provide the context for the sentence. You pull quotes out of thin air, present them as "proof" of me being mean and nasty and insulting.
It's really easy to link right to the comment, so the readers can determine for themselves if I was being unreasonable or responding to actual insult.
Why not simply pass on by my comments, AJM, if you are incapable of being impartial or polite?
October 16, 2009 6:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Timestamp Friday, October 16, 2009 06:24AM
The entire quote and the thread can be viewed here
I'm extremely reluctant to get into this "But you hit me first!" whine that jem so often devolves to whenever he's challenged for contributing to his many flame wars with so many different opponents. After all, I do not share with others here at TPM the same apparent degree of antipathy to calling a guy a knob if he is in fact being a knob. And I fully expect to be called out in like fashion on those occasions when I am being a knob, myself. (Hey! It happens!)
Yeah, jason, you pretty much give as good as you get, although I must say your "I know you are, but what am I?" schoolyard style of whining insult is far less creative than most of what I see here at TPM.
I have little trouble engaging anyone here on TPM. MCB and clearthinker, for example, are two who see the world quite differently from me, yet I can engage in dialog with them as I have seen many others do as well. I have even learned a thing or two from these exchanges and appreciate the gain offered by paying attention to someone who offers a different perspective.
If it gets to the point that they are being simply obstreperous for its own sake or downright ignorant, I will call them on it in what can be deemed "trollish" behavior. I expect the same from anyone whenever I'm likewise caught being selectively stupid, inflammatory, or mean rather than helpfully addressing the issue at hand. (God knows I try, but there are days....)
What is interesting, jason, is that you provide a kind of "special case" in this regard. You seem to draw little but controversy and flame wars with your schtick here on TPM. QUESTION: At some point, when you find yourself to be such an outlier, is it not logical to question what is unique about YOU that causes such dysfunctional intercourse? (I'll leave that double entendre lie - for now. See? I can play nice!)
In my estimation, your work as a sock puppet for the Health Insurance Industry has created a great deal of your problem, as well it should. For weeks and months, you have hijacked many fine discussions about health care only to sidetrack them and redirect them down the talking point rabbit holes that the health insurance PR/Lobby industry created for such purposes. Your schtick has been replete with strawmen (i.e. HR676 in toto discussed as the only alternative offered to the status quo); protestations of "Of course I'm in favor of reform, but..."; and outright crazed games of intellectual whack-a-mole that belie any intent to actually contribute to the discussion.
You ARE the outlier, jason. There is an agenda at play here that doesn't quite fit within the objective of intelligent, open discussion that is observed by nearly everyone else on these pages. I leave it to you to know if it is only a matter of needing to "win" that causes you to flail around so often when reasoned discourse is called for, or if in fact you are representing yourself as an "independent thinker" who takes his directions and his talking points from some other boss.
October 16, 2009 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
An agenda? That is the problem. Paranoia pollutes your interpretation of my comments and blogs.
Go all the way back to the beginning for the proper context to your continued objections to things I have never said and quotes yanked independent of many months worth of concerted attacks by you and you cohorts.
I am quite comfortable with my track record and am certain the Fourth Wall know who are the real agitators at TPM.
October 16, 2009 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alas, Dear jason, you have me here. I have always had a deep-seated aversion - a "paranoia," if you will - to fools muttering platitudes and nonsense with the aplomb of a two bit hustler trying to sell bullshit to cattlemen.
Your record does indeed speak for you, and you are welcome to it. Such drama. It is difficult to imagine what life must be like for one who is so clearly misunderstood by the rabble. Oh, the horror.
But do us all a favor? Next time you go all meta and threaten to fall on your sword and suggest you are going to leave these parts because we are so unworthy, please follow through with it. You otherwise come across as nothing more than a whining boor not worthy of a second's consideration.
October 16, 2009 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again, you interpret something one way and think that the entire world will succumb to your reality.
Your opinion is not truth.
Read closely and you will see that the blog you referenced is hardly a date with a sword much less the Swan Song you had imagined.
The news of my death was vastly overstated.
October 16, 2009 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
PS: Here is a little of that missing context to the above quote.
The above thread (read the whole thing, now, not just the parts you like) is representative of the months-long trolling you and a small group of brawlers have conducted against anyone who is remotely conservative or outside the group think.
I am going to file this latest objection under: Thou dost protest too much.
October 16, 2009 7:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I took your "Ironic, huh?" comment to mean that you were agreeing that you were one of the non-insulters . I wanted to illustrate that this was counter-to-fact. I was not particularly interested in showing whether the insults you offer are justifiable or not, what I was interested in was showing your implicit lie.
MiddleClassBill does respond with rational questions about disagreement and I would agree that I do not have the impression that he insults people. You do routinely. If some one challenges what you are typically respond with evasions and insults -- that's not what I meant, that's not what I said (those naive to your tactics often respond with the quote where you said it) and a claim that that person is the cause of the failure of the progressive movement.
October 16, 2009 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
More of that revisionist history that has no bearing on reality. I am quite confident that all but the rabid of my critics are clear as to who instigates most of the flame wars around here.
October 16, 2009 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right, support is just coming out of the woodwork for you!
If my interpretation of your "Ironic,huh?" comment is wrong, what did you mean to indicate?
October 16, 2009 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was agreeing with Bill that most who are accused of being considered trolls ar this site, myself included, are in fact some of the least insulting of the bunch. If the quote you provided is the worst you can do, I stand by that assessment.
October 16, 2009 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you are interested in cataloging the occasions on which you commit that type of insult I cited, feel free. I think you might find it shorter to catalog the posts where you did not include an insult. My impression is that this is particularly true when you are responding to people who disagree with you.
That you include yourself among those who are least insulting is a hoot!
October 17, 2009 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah a shit sandwich on 7-grain with sprouts is still what it is. Just cuz your insults are fancy doesn't mean they are not insults.
You pretending to not know that is insulting too. But mostly to yourself... you just aren't smart enough to be embarrassed.
That was an insult.
Get it? (dick?)
October 17, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Over the last nine years or so scribbling here at TPM I wish I had a nickel for all those times when I really wanted to let loose with the insults. I know I've come close on more than one occasion. But then I realize there is little point in it. I did once spend a few days in the pokey for beating the hell out of a guy who lied straight to my face. I tolerate lies a little better now. But not by much. There are a few senators though, that if I was in arms length of them, I may not be able to restrain myself. It is hard to deny that when a U.S. senator lies there are serious consequences. But then we all know about that.
October 15, 2009 3:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hilarious! Thanks as always.
October 14, 2009 8:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome. Simply Brilliant.
October 14, 2009 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm really interested in seeing how you make Limbaugh a troll. He was spewing before Gore ever invented the internet. Great stuff, this!
October 14, 2009 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rush Limbaugh - Father of the Trolls! Go ahead and use the line if it works for you! It's free!
October 14, 2009 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
great fable for our times!
October 14, 2009 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Wolfrum, you are so funny. I posted this to my facebook page and tweeted it! And reading the comments, here, even better. Thanks for making me laugh once again.
October 14, 2009 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
....When he got home the boy ran first to the bathroom where he pulled out a bottle of MOM (Milk of Magnesia). He had learned that morning (on the internet) that topical use was an unsung and little-known acne cure, so he slathered it on his pustular face, and went right to his keyboard. His crusty, white-dusted fingers began tapping out all that he had learned today. He knew it wasn't true, but -- what the hell -- now he was a troll! He did have some concern about the pasty build-up on his key o rd. S me keys jus wo ldn't ty e!
[Sorry, Wolfrum, I just had to work in the latest info I got about a cheap acne treatment, and your "boy" shouted at me! ]
October 14, 2009 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its a scary place OUT THERE. Certainly more frightening than in here.
AND DON'T CALL ME DICKWAD
October 14, 2009 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You had me at Cheeto dust.
October 14, 2009 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
My mother once told me if someone called you a n-word and you responded, you were validating that you were what you were being called.
It is interesting who responded to the word "troll".
(I should note my father instructed me to beat the crap out of whoever used the word.)
The Pavlovian response to "troll" was almost more humorous than the post. Thanks
October 14, 2009 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
The blog is saying "trolls" use nasty, insulting language to simply derail the thread. Pointing out that most of the trolls around TPM are actually liberals is not a Pavlovian response, not that the allusion makes a damn bit of sense.
I find that most of the biggest trolls at this site wouldn't speak that way in person, ever, and if they did, would probably receive the beating your old man said was warranted for such behavior.
October 16, 2009 6:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Find? So far as I know you have spoken in person to only one person you would consider a troll.
Reality challenged much?
Don't know what circles you run in but in mine most debates are not settled with fisticuffs.
And, Jason, as has been pointed out before, most people around TPM are liberals but the percentage of right-wing outliers who are trolls is much higher than the percentage of liberals who are trolls.
You school Democrats that they should treat the right wing with a politess which they don't observe, don't deserve and which has failed politically in the past. But you fail to observe your own advice -- attacking Ted Kennedy in the week after his death on the basis of an extremely
simplistic analysis of politics. I'll offer another equally as (im)plausible -- Pres. Carter had no real shot at being re-elected and should have resigned and let Teddy run unopposed. And because Carter didn't he is single handedly responsible for the fact that the Republicans remain idiots.
October 16, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are saying the people that use inflammatory language at this site speak that way in person? That they converse in person the same way they do online? Including the not-so-veiled insults? Sorry if I find that hard to believe.
October 16, 2009 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I find" is commonly used to indicate that one has evidence, not to present a mere surmise. Again you were pretending to have evidence you don't have.
I don't care what you find hard to believe -- I do care whether you can differentiate between facts and your beliefs. I hope you will stop presenting your beliefs as facts without evidence to back them up. Do try to be more careful in the future.
October 16, 2009 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are the one making an outrageous statement that you believe people at TPM converse the same way online as they do in person, insults and nasty language included.
That is what requires proof beyond conjecture.
My belief that most people don't talk that way in person is born out by reality and common sense. If that weren't the case, it is likely we would see violence on the rise.
What is your agenda? More thuggery in pursuit of ideological purity?
October 17, 2009 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for conceding your statement on 'finding' was based on belief, not evidence.
You are the one assuming that I believe that the off-line communication of the people at TPM is similar to their online communication. My challenge was to your misuse of language to imply evidence you didn't have.
Do try to be logical.
October 17, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink