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article du jour: Zimbardo and The Lucifer Effect


Here's an article from the Stanford Magazine that includes a bit of background on Zimbardo and an interview with him. Since he's been mentioned a time or two around these parts, I thought it might be of interest.

In a new book, The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil (Random House), Zimbardo makes the case that “bad apples” aren’t to blame for evils at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere: he argues that extreme situations and the systems that create them—“bad barrels”—lead ordinary people to behave in horrid ways.

On March 7, roughly coinciding with his golden teaching anniversary and the publication of the book, the psychology professor gave a farewell Stanford lecture. In the packed auditorium, the veteran showman’s presentation combined psychological research with real-world politics, leavened a heavy message with personal history and popular culture, and elicited both despair and optimism about human nature. The centerpiece: a series of snapshots from Abu Ghraib.

It’s easy to loathe the soldiers gloating over their atrocities—Zimbardo calls the photos “trophy shots,” likening them to fishermen’s poses with their big catch. But when Zimbardo describes the hellish, decrepit prison—in which the guards lived in conditions little better than those for the inmates—the soldiers’ actions gain new context. Under frequent attack by mortar fire, enveloped in desert heat and urine stench, the guards worked 12-hour shifts for weeks without respite, with insistent but vague orders to “soften up” for interrogation their prisoners of war.

 Amazon reviews of the book here.


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Thank you for bringing this article to our attention.

From the article:

It’s easy to loathe the soldiers gloating over their atrocities—Zimbardo calls the photos “trophy shots,” likening them to fishermen’s poses with their big catch. But when Zimbardo describes the hellish, decrepit prison—in which the guards lived in conditions little better than those for the inmates—the soldiers’ actions gain new context.

This brings to mind a quote of Stanley Milgram's in a comment I posted here in the cafe back in February of 2006 ...

"Often it is not so much the kind of person a man is as the kind of situation in which he finds himself that determines how he will act."

Please avail yourselves to reading my entire comment at the link above. It is very apropos to that point that Professor Zimbardo has made.

Also: If you do not know who Milgram was, here's a fine site that details his early research and controversial experiments on obedience to authority which he conducted at Yale University in 1961-1962....

~OGD~

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Hey, viviane, The Lucifer Effect makes total sense to me. I think Bob Altemeyer references the famous Yale experiment in his work, The Authoritarians, which also makes total sense to me.

But not too long ago, I was somewhere on a right wingnut site where they were accusing liberals, who believe there is some truth in these theories, of coddling the criminals (the soldiers involved in Abu Ghraib) instead of the victims. Geez, talk about not 'supporting the troops'. What does it take with them?


On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. H.L. Mencken

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