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Spam is back (as you know) - and sneakier than ever


Just wanted to once again address the attacks of spam that have been hitting Cafe unfortunately hard over the weekends.

As we've all witnessed, the spam problems get especially bad on Saturday and Sunday, when there's no one officially policing the system - we understand that people are miffed, and we're looking at a few possibilities to recruit readers to help us (as some of you have already volunteered to do), but the current software isn't really set up for it.

What we're doing is looking at a broader solution to solve the problems at Cafe. Nothing is set in stone yet, but I just wanted to acknowledge that we hear you, we see what's going on, we want to keep you happy here, and I promise that we're working on it.

We've shut off automatic registrations quite a few times in the past couple of months in order to fight the spam; this seems to work as a temporary solution, even though it's not ideal, as new TPM readers then have to wait for a staffer/intern to be available and reply to their manual account registration requests. We've also discussed altering the system so that new users can only start blogging after having their account and commenting for a week, like at DailyKos or Fark.

Until we find the best solution, your best bet is to flag spam as abuse and email me directly (versha @ talkingpointsmemo . com) whenever you see something fishy. Please include links in your email when possible.

And be on the lookout for this new form of spam that appeared here over the weekend - new users copying and pasting AP articles (or poetry, etc.) wholesale from other sources with no attribution or formatting, etc. Not every one of those posts is necessarily spam, but it's certainly okay to flag it. The sneaky new spammers seem to have devised a system wherein they're hiding tons of links within the posts in order to try and fool Google and up their pageranks - h/t to the genius Al for figuring it out and showing it to me. See below.

Seemingly normal (if randomly creative) post:

johnbee-poem-reader-blog.jpg

This is what the page source looks like, with all the hidden links:

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Don't worry, you can't accidentally click on it and get malware or anything - but it's still annoying. So flag it and email me!

Thanks, as always, for your patience.


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Thanks for the info and update.

Hope we all give some thoughts to options and communicate with you this week (before Friday's onslaught).

Again, appreciate.

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Thank you so much, a) for working on this so diligently and b) for letting us know you are.

I will continue to email you links of spam as I see them, and will continue to report abuse. You are always responsive even when I myself think I'm being a pain in the ass. Thanks.

Rec'd.

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Thanks Versha and all, for being on top of things. We know you can't control it all, but you're trying and you're letting us know.

It means a lot.

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Thanks, Versha. This kicked up your blog about Peek-a-bbo sexism at Huffpo. Can't wait to read it; I get so tired of having to look at boobies and crotches there. It's so too bad they are so popular, have so much money that they can have breaking news so quickly.

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How about a spam link at each post which automatically e-mail you? Is that a major software tweak or would it just generate a lot of spam e-mails and nuisance attacks on real reader/writers?

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Hey amike,

Not sure about the technical details of this, but I've passed it on to Al - we'll see what we can do!

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v, if you're wondering, i'm still around, but a health prob has slowed me down seriously. i hope to get health issue resolved soon, and back running fence lines soon

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Not to start another war here, but what about having to be registered to Recommend? There have been blogs which receive say, 35 rec's overnight, and yet have zero comments. It looks as though people weren't even reading the blogs. Many of them end up on the front page of the Mothership. When some people suggested this before, other Cafe-ites thought it sounded undemocratic or something, but plenty of people get irked by it.

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Hi Wendy,

Thanks for the comment. Al actually already tweaked the system so that anonymous recommendation is no longer allowed.

The only difference is this only applies to all blogs created after that date - anonymous recs can still happen on already-existing blogs, but, as Al said:

"We will also apply this setting to existing weblogs on a per-weblog basis if we feel they are abusing the recommend feature."

So let us know if you think some users in particular are abusing the system!

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Just for clarification - 'only applies to all blogs created after that date'...

Does this mean the individuals who had registered previous to that date don't need to sign in to rec.?

Thanks.

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Hooray! You go, girl!

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Could we do something about the page load speed, please? TPM Cafe is spoiling my "browsing experience" with its mountains of slow-loading clutter.

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co-signed. TPM pages are strangely much worse than other comparable sites in terms of loading time.

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Versha,
Would you please ask Al to examine the page:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/amike/2009/09/the-dignity-of-labor-a-labor-d.php?ref=reccafe

This is a blog from amike and has an error on line 764. This occurs with some frequency and is the result of the publishing engine permitting an improperly constructed reference. The publishing engine should not allow the publishing of the illegal reference. The result is the page doesn't render. You really need to fix this. If you run the page through the W3C validator you will see the error stick out like a sore thumb.

Simply stated a parameterized reference is not allowed. It must be an href.

This is annoying. Please fix it. This problem is getting old and there is no reason for it to be broken in this way.

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Excuse me please, would you please refrain from talking out your thinking-end. This problem is getting old.

I show line 742 of the code to be:

example, or laws against creating a public nuisance.

and it loads standards compliant mode, not Quirks.

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Line 764

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today we celebrate that...celebrate life itself by celebrating labor.
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Much appreciated, Versha.

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