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Joe Klein compares Glen Greenwald to Rush Limbaugh
Klein says Greenwald does not care about the National Security of the United States of America. Media Matters calls Klein a hypocrite:
Related links: http://mediamatters.org/blog/200908310009http://utdocuments.blogspot.com/2009/08/joe-klein-on-journolist.html
T'he reason behind the attack appears to be Greenwald's view that torturers must be held accountable. Klein seems equally upset over GG's push to unseat moderate Democrats in 2010 and beyond.
Related links: http://mediamatters.org/blog/200908310009http://utdocuments.blogspot.com/2009/08/joe-klein-on-journolist.html
T'he reason behind the attack appears to be Greenwald's view that torturers must be held accountable. Klein seems equally upset over GG's push to unseat moderate Democrats in 2010 and beyond.
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JokeLine forgets he supported the war and the administration which weakened us militarily, morally, and economically and left us in shambles, all because Jokeline still holds a position of influence in our national media, which like him, believed and propagated the Cheney administration lies during the years when Greenwald was being a real reporter. Methinks the Jokeline doth protest too much.
August 31, 2009 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Typical, reprehensible smear by a stalking horse for the powerful. Mr. Klein likes to be in fashion you see. Glenn Greenwald, on the other hand, has beliefs he is actually committed to over and above being a part of the "in crowd."
All I can say is" rock on Glenn and never shut up! Klein is, no doubt, carrying the water for the powerful people you are making uncomfortable with your unpatriotic insistence on the rule of law. Keep it up!
August 31, 2009 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Time was, I couldn't stand Klein and was devoted to Greenwald, but it seems like blogging, and having to face the instant feedback from commenters--and they're a pretty tough crowd over there--has done wonders for him. He's more self-honest than he used to be and less beholden to the establishment. He still has a tendency to want to show the rest of the MSM he's a "serious" person by drawing false "pox on both your hoses" comparisons between, say, Greenwald and Limbaugh which is, in fact, a very foolish and insulting comparison.
Greenwald, on the other hand, has had a tendency toward self-rightousness that often leads him to conflate simple disagreement with him with moral treason to all that's right and good and decent.
The truth, hoerbrt, is that when they're acting like adults, both of them often have something worthwhile to to say, Greenwald more often than Klein. But both of them can be prickly, self-important pains in the ass with a propensity for getting into purely personal pissing matches with other media figures that they cloak behind self-rightousness appeals to higher principles.
When they get into one of those with each other, as they do from time to time, picking a side in their fight makes about as much sense as expressing a preference for X's or O's in a game of Tic-Tac-Toe. better just to politely pretend not to notice--like you do when a couple you're out with starts bickering--until they've exhausted themselves and start writing about what they're suppposed to be writing about.
August 31, 2009 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll take Greenwald's side any day, self-righteous or not.
August 31, 2009 10:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen. Klein's an ass. Greenwald far outclasses Klein.
September 1, 2009 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also, I can't get the link to work.
September 1, 2009 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Glenn Greenwald is an important voice because the general media is controlled by Israeli interests and relatives.
This is where Jews begin emailing the website to have my account closed. That's the MO.
No more wars for Israel... they invade Lebanon, Syria, and Gaza... we occupy Iraq and Afghanistan... and the Jews are thumping for us to begin killing Iranians now as well.
Where will it end?
Israel is NOT America. They are a murderous theocracy - the New Nazis. And they have infiltrated our government and media to the point where America is Sobibor West - with a Jew in every watchtower.
September 30, 2009 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink