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		    <title>TonyG Commented on What I like about a long war in Afghanistan, or why America desperately needs a quaqmire  by David Seaton</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>David, </p>

<p>Do you not realize how your advocacy of continued US involvement in Afghanistan ironically resembles the Bush administrations's main justification for invading Iraq?  In both cases a highly speculative future possible evil is advanced as a justification for war now: in Iraq, it was the possibility that some day Saddam could have and use weapons of mass destruction; in Afghanistan, the possibility that US troops would be diverted to an invasion of Iran.   But how likely is the latter?  Extremely unlikely: this was a neo-conservative fantasy that had some traction in the Bush administration but has none whatsoever after the failure in Iraq.  Iran is several times larger than Iraq and infinitely more sophisticated than Afghanistan.   Do you really think that Obama is that crazy?  You offer no evidence whatsoever for that proposition (and of course there is none), only your generalized conviction that the US must be involved in a war somewhere.  Not very compelling.</p>

<p>Americans and Afghans are dying now, every day in Afghanistan.  To say that this is a good thing because it averts an alternative evil that is in fact only remotely possible is unconscionable and just plain silly.   </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[TonyG Commented on What &apos;Liberal&apos; Academy? by Jim Sleeper]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Elrod makes a useful and important distinction between movement and process conservatives.   We need to understand that the label "conservative" in the US has been successfully misappropriated over the past 50 or so years by people who are actually radical reactionaries.  (It's hardly surprising that they should have sought to do so; "conservative" is a venerable term, practically synonymous with "moderate," and they don't want to admit to being radicals.)  For reasons of political expediency, these "conservatives"  have adopted an anti-scientific and hence anti-intellectual stance, so it's natural that the university is not a particularly congenial place for them.  Are there any real conservative intellectuals in the US today, in or out of academe, in the tradition Jim Sleeper is citing?  There must be, but I can't think of any offhand.    </p>]]>
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		    <title>TonyG Commented on Obama Tells UN He Is Determined To End Israeli Occupation by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>MJ,</p>

<p>I know you're the eternal optimist, but please explain to me how you can conceive of Netanyahu ever agreeing to a just peace settlement.  If he can successfully resist Obama's pressure for a minimal show of good faith--halting further settlements--what basis is there for hope that he will ever agree to a peace that of necessity will require not merely a halt to new settlements, but the extensive dismantling of existing settlements and the repatriation of tens of thousands of Israelis?  </p>]]>
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		    <title>TonyG Commented on Madmen: Iran, Israel, America and the Bomb by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"If the people running Iran were rational - if they were interested only in preserving their regime - they would not have stolen the election for Ahmadinejad."<br />
Sorry, MJ, but it's just not that simple.  It's one thing to misjudge the consequences of falsifying an election outcome.  (There are many historical examples of regimes whose leaders, while not "irrational," were deaf and dumb to popular sentiment.)  It's a whole other thing to engage in such obviously pointlessly reckless behavior as an attack on Israel.  "Irrational" implies a very high probability that the Iranian regime would engage in such behavior, and there is no evidence of that.  By characterizing it as "irrational" you're conceding about 60% of the neo-cons' argument.  </p>]]>
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	<title>TonyG recommended Some Thoughts on Wilson and his Would-be Heirs by Thomas Knock</title>
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		    <title>TonyG Commented on Wilsonianism--or Trotskyism-Trumanism? by Michael Lind</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>An excellent post.  There has been a tendency among some liberals to criticize the neo-conservatives as naive idealists with unrealistic expectations of democracy promotion.  I think that's actually a naive view of the neo-conservatives.  Democracy promotion, for them, has always been an instrument for the promotion of American power, an instrument to be applied with careful selectivity.  </p>]]>
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	<title>TonyG recommended Some Replies and Some Politics by Kevin Phillips</title>
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	<title>TonyG recommended Obama:  Endorse The Arab Peace Initiative Now by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
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	<title>TonyG recommended The Intellectual Perpetrators of the Corporate Predator State by Thomas Palley</title>
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  <published>2008-08-13T21:58:22Z</published>
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	<title>TonyG recommended Georgia: Background to War by William Hartung</title>
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	<title>TonyG recommended 9/11, the Flag, and me.... by Tagg</title>
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