Condi is taking heat and she does not like it or understand it. She and w just figured that status is everything.

They feel they should be accorded a certain amount of respect because they held an important office. What they did while in those offices is irrelevant.

You should have done this, you should not have done that. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO as Cheney likes to say.

Condi is surprised that a nobody, a student a mere citizen would have the gumption to question the actions of someone as important as she. That's all.

How could anyone have the nerve to question what this important stateswoman has done?

Did anyone also notice in the vid at 2:42 thru 2:50 she said this:

If you need Saudi Arabia to fight Al Qaeda internally, which is, by the way, where Al Qaeda came from...

Then what the hell are we doing in Iraq?

It gets worse...some idiot let Condi loose in an ELEMENTARY school! It's not enough that she is allowed to abuse college students, someone decided that it would be a good idea to let her near 3rd graders!

Here's a link which provides an email address in case anyone wants to weigh in here with a complaint to Stanford's faculty affairs person:

http://facultyhandbook.stanford.edu/fa.html

(Next, read down and find the email address)

The Decider was a wimp.
Imagine he’s in a room of advisors and he says with a wink” Now you know I won’t do anything illegal. Now I repeat I’ll not do anything illegal. Do I need to say it again”
Someone in the room decides to be the hero, picking up on the veiled inference, and states” I’ll make it legal for you Mr. President.

Sigh of relief; the wimp passed the buck to his subordinates, they’ll take one for the (Gipper) Decider.

Now about that promotion, How does Supreme Court Justice sound to you,

What gets me about her justification is the part about 9/11. “Unless you were there, in a position of responsibility…” blah blah blah. And watched Americans jump out of 80 story buildings…blah blah blah.” The world is not a bunch of easy choices…”

Hey Condi, we were there. And we all are in a position of responsibility. And we didn’t’ choose to lie ourselves into a war and we didn’t choose to torture human beings.

The New York Review of Books released the Red Cross report (until now Classified) yesterday. Here’s the link.

http://www.nybooks.com/icrc-report.pdf

You know what just struck me is that this contempt is actually rampant in the way communcation and attitudes are reflected by the relgious right. I have to seriously wonder how 'religion' figured in here. when they were screening potential employees etc. they were screening those with any ties that they considered to be liberal. I wonder if they also screened for 'religious' ties that might bring with them certain sort of loyalty and ignorance of facts?

Those students nailed her and they knew it. She was up against the wall with the camera in her face feeling trapped by her past deeds screaming she made no decisions. She was just a messenger. Those students knew they had her. It must have been torture. Oh, wait, we know torture this was not. These were students doing the work the press has failed to perform these past 8 years.

At least she didn't tell the little Jewish girl that she was just following orders:

From the Washington Post:

Rice, in her first appearance in Washington since leaving government, was at the Jewish Primary Day School of the Nation's Capital before giving an evening lecture at the Sixth & I Historic Synagogue. She held forth amiably before a few dozen students about her love of Israel, travel abroad and the importance of learning languages, then opened the floor to their questions.

The questions had been developed beforehand by students with their teachers and had not been screened by Rice. At first, they were innocuous: What was it like growing up in segregated Birmingham, Ala.? What skill did she want to be best known for?

Then Misha Lerner, a student from Bethesda, asked: What did Rice think about the things President Obama's administration was saying about the methods the Bush administration had used to get information from detainees?

Rice took the question in stride. saying that she was reluctant to criticize Obama, then getting to the heart of the matter.

"Let me just say that President Bush was very clear that he wanted to do everything he could to protect the country. After September 11, we wanted to protect the country," she said. "But he was also very clear that we would do nothing, nothing, that was against the law or against our obligations internationally. So the president was only willing to authorize policies that were legal in order to protect the country."

Sorry to have to disagree, but I don't think Rice violated her "professorial role". If she is actually a faculty member, she is protected by "academic freedom" which guarantees her right to express her opinion, particularly in areas where she has some expertise. This is how the academic world works.

Nor do I think she was particularly disrespectful toward the student. Her tone of voice was a bit strident, but at least in my experience this is how she always sounds. And maybe it was a bit strange to call the kid "dear", but I didn't find her condescending (at least in the sense of talking down to him).

That said, I completely disagree with everything Rice said. But my point is that we should focus on the precise content of what she said, and not get distracted by trivialities related to style.

Here is something on the timeline...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090423/ts_alt_afp/usattacksmilitaryjusticecongresszubaydah_20090423112919

Condi nodded.

Hmmmm.

That's gonna be tricky. A nod can be interpreted in more than one way, can it not?

She's a Harpy, and always has been.

Thera: When I first saw the clip on Olbermann, I assumed she was speaking to college students (Stanford) and felt she was kind of rude. Then I found out it was a third grader, and I was appalled. And yes, as a parent, I would definitely be demanding she apologize for her inappropriate treatment of a student with a question. If she didn't like the content, then don't allow questions.

Honestly, she should move to Palin's state, where it appears many people are lacking in compassion like her, whether it is aerial wolf shootings, killing turkeys during interview (background) or sitting on a real dead bear chair. They make me sick.

Oh my god. (warning nothing worth reading here, just a rant)

So I have been avoiding this video because I don't really have many nice things to say about condi, and I didn't really want to be riled up. Well I was bored and decided to wonder over here to another of Thera's well written, if depressing, posts. Big mistake. I was doing okay until I got to the "with all due respect Nazi germany never attacked America"....WTF!!! 19 spoiled saudi bastards with box knives are more dangerous than fucking WWII germany and Japan. The nazis decimated our shipping lines, killed millions and their fucking ally sure as shit attacked 'the homeland'. This woman is a fucking idiot. She has always been an idiot. She doesn't know shit about shit. She was a 'russian' expert who completely missed the fall of the soviet union and thought glasnost was fake.

Did that give her pause, maybe to stop and reflect what she and all the other crazy neocons got wrong in their analysis and the lefty liberals like Moynihan got right. Nope. She just went on ahead using her connections to get Chevron a damn pipeline, and then help bush to peer into pooty-poo's soul and thereby kick the nascent russian democracy to the curb while sending our jobs to china and our money to arabia. It was the height of irresponsibility for her ever to be given a position of power. Cheney and rummy openly mocked her. They didn't even deign to return her phonecalls.

Cheney simply installed he could more easily control w. My god what an embarrassment this woman has been. She has never been anything but a neocon Eliza Doolittle. I mean this is the woman who while exercising on her elipitical machine during the Palistian elections exclaimed 'no thats not right, that can't be right" when they elected Hamas. These people were watching American and Israel tanks kill muslims everyday who did you fucking think they would vote for? How god damn stupid and insensitive to reality can you be? Jesus rummy and the neocons weren't even that stupidly naive. And she was the Secretary of State for gods sakes. Call Jordan? Call Saudi, call that thug mubarak that we give billions too every year for nothing. Nope too fucking stupid. There are so many examples of her idiocy i don't even knwo wheer to stop. HOW THE fUkckning HELL?

Okay carry on your civil discourse,
this is simply a relapse of bush derangement syndrome. carry on. nothing to see here.

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The question is . . .

"Did Condi violate her professorial role?"

Is the Pope German?

Is Cheney's name Dick?

~OGD~

I don't see what all the hullabaloo is about. Condi got a little testy and called a young man "dear" and was, perhaps, a bit condescending toward her questioner when he didn't know two answers to her questions. To me, it is an exchange from two well-read (despite Condi's "do your reading" remark), intelligent people, one of who was in a defensive mode because she was being attacked, although respectfully. I think she did a good job of defending her indefensible position (remember this post is about her demeanor toward the young man, not her positions) and she is a professor who may be a bit more arrogant than most, but, again...so what? She leaned over to give him the last answer which she didn't have to do and it made her look like a professor who actually wanted her student to learn. She was merely defensive, as anyone would be, and nothing more.

Why in the world would any educational institution want people like her and John Woo to teach others. Reminds me of when part of junk bond king, Michael Milliken's restitution process included teaching finance in the minority community!