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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Banks in Trouble? Nah! Just Change the Rules. by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It is exactly about mark-to-market. Wall Street wants to call a dog a cat and vice versa whenever it suits them. Not that they need it mind you. Geithner and co have already given them a license to steal. They just want to be able to do it without asking please.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on STRING THEORY by dickday</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You hit all the reasons Sleepin'. Like I said, "A no brainer".</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Houston we have a problem -- unemployment exceeds 10% by MiddleClassBill</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Just as people who crunch numbers for a living predicted at the beginning of the year. And who have also predicted to continue through the first half of next year before it starts easing. This was a gift on the national Christmas tree in December of 2008. The objective observers recognized it for the chunk of coal it was. </p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Banks in Trouble? Nah! Just Change the Rules. by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It's informative that E. Warren is an outsider relative to never having been a player in the intrigues of Wall Street. Some might say that leaves her short on how things really work. That may be true but insiders have a skewed perspective that renders them incapable of seeing the forest for the trees. That is the case here. Wall Street is incestuous and has bred mostly idiots and then put them in charge of the nations finances. There is a good reason why a commanding general sits atop a hill and just watches the entire battle. </p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on STRING THEORY by dickday</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>If Bush could go all crazy with what was essentially an even steven election then dems should have shot the moon. When I'm sitting on a full house with aces over, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Dems have demonstrated time and again they have no clue of how this game is played. Obama is a perfect example. He would like for everyone to win. However, that just isn't possible. For the country to win republicans had to lose. And not just lose but get their sorry asses properly stomped into the ground. Instead, we have everybody loses. Except for Wall Street. Who arguably are the ones who most needed to have their asses handed to them. On day one of his administration Obama should have handed walking papers to the top three executives of the top ten national banks and brokerages. That was a no brainer. And at that moment in time he could have pulled it off easily. We'd be in a very different situation now if he understood about how to use the power Bush so fortuitously handed to him.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Oh Snap, Markos  Moulitsas of Daily Kos Just Called Tom Tancredo out on his Vietnam Era Draft Deferments by tmccarthy0</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I saw this. I thought my screen was going to erupt in flames. You could see it building right from the beginning. Shuster wasn't giving Tancredo any quarter. And you could see Tancredo coming very rapidly to a boil. Markos's perfectly timed fatal thrust was exquisite.</p>

<p>This was hardly a fair fight. It was good sport if you like massacres. It was encouraging to see a couple of libs going for the exposed jungular. Counterattack is the only logical proposition. As for entertainment, this is a ten. </p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Why is TPM the Tea Baggers Best Friend?  (56% of their soapbox) by ghaon</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I never post about these emotional arguments. They're a waste of time. I wish our lawmakers would concentrate on some facts instead of the whackos who aren't in control of their emotions.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on The Great Divide by TheraP</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Thera, I don't want to be argumentative, for certainly there is a case to be made for opening our hearts.</p>

<p>However, where we're really coming up short is in using our heads. Substituting emotion for careful thought and objective analysis has us going off in all kinds of ridiculous directions. Our world is very complex. We need people who know how to put their emotions aside and use their heads, not the theatrical displays, lies and catering to the emotions of the uninformed and then calling that, very illogically, public support.</p>

<p>The adjective for the lowest common denominator which many of our lawmakers appeal to is 'stupid'. Adherence to stupid is what we've gotten.</p>

<p>We can let the dumbasses call the shots but then we can't complain when it doesn't work out. Our senators and congresspersons have to get some balls and make the proper choices in spite of what the dumbasses are calling for.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Auto Execs Urge Tax on Fuel of Up To $8.00 by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The chart is good but it's also something we've been experiencing for quite some time. Downward pressure on wages has been a screwed up attempt to close the gap between the U.S. labor market and others, principally our Asian competitors. That is a dumb idea because our economies are so different.</p>

<p>One of our biggest problems on the manufacturing side is China, the state, heavily subsidizes the cost of energy on a nationwide basis. I know it isn't possible for us to do that but core services such as energy, where it's a for profit service in some countries and where it's  nationalized in others makes a plate of scrambled eggs for competition. In the U.S. energy is one of our biggest cost factors.</p>

<p>And you correctly point out healthcare cost is another that on a national basis hurts us a lot. We really need a single payer system to get those costs into single digits.</p>

<p>It is a bit crazy that we brag about our high productivty but have some notable segments which are anything but efficient in relative terms.</p>

<p>The other thing where we have a big differential is for those items where other nations have nationalized something it keeps the cost for them low and reduces wage pressure. In the U.S. our costs for many of those same things keeps going up. If workers have any hope of getting their kids a good education so we can compete, wages have to at least stay even. That hasn't been the case for going on three decades.</p>

<p>There is one more piece to this crazy pie worth mentioning. The U.S. has made it attractive for corporations to seek those places on a global basis which have the overall least cost of manufacturing. That is great for profits but in large measure on the tax side it's broken. For U.S. corporation they have the upside and mitigate the downside. This has also served to accelerate the shift of wealth up our economic ladder and made worse our issues with class struggles.</p>

<p>For far too long we have legislatively put profits before everything else and have effectively excluded other equally important outcomes. This imbalance now has us in a bind. This is true on the domestic and foreign side alike. There has to be an accommodation made to account for nations managing their various national cost centers differently. The mantra of free trade without effective mechanisms for achieving trade and currency equity to keep things in balance cannot work. That scheme has devastated our middle class and turned our socio-economic scheme on its head. Our particular economic unit has to provide an overall outcome that satisfies requirements for all contributing elements which then yields a self sustaining economic unit.</p>

<p>Exclude or short change one piece and you impact the overall unit. This means take all the revenue and distribute those to meet the needs of all contributing elements and then what is left is profit. Profit comes last. If there isn't any, so what? At least you will have guaranteed that the overall unit is sustained.</p>

<p>Having lived in Europe and Asia I am familiar with this. Both make it work out so in the end there is the appearance of not having made any money. But all the needs are in fact met. And there is a lot more money there than meets the eye. It's just allocated differently to meet a broader set of requirements with no negative influence on the overall national wealth.</p>

<p>We have one more thing that is horribly out of whack. On the public side we have states and municipalities that actually work a regular contractual 32 hour work week. Their labor productivity is in the toilet. In the private sector, especially in manufacturing, the norm is in excess of 50 hours. U.S. productivity numbers look great. But government isn't part of that equation. If you add all the people in government our numbers look very different. Government is just as much a part of our workforce and the productivity equation as any other. </p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Auto Execs Urge Tax on Fuel of Up To $8.00 by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>We have a bigger problem than Europe or Japan. I have lived both places and went everywhere on trains. We have a public transport system solely based upon our highways and the automobile. The cost to make a fundamental change in our philosophy of public transportation at this stage is staggering. And thats on top of a projected bill that now stands between $2.5T and 3.0T to do a lot of major work on our public infrastructure that was largely constructed in a post depression era. Just as an example we don't have a single major hydro-power installation (dam) that is not at or very near the end of it's projected lifespan. Our total current electric generation capacity (all forms) barely exceeds our needs. We can't provide (right now) enough power onto an electric grid, that doesn't exist, in a form that is capable of supporting an all electric fleet or even a 25% electric fleet.</p>

<p>Where this is coming to a head is nobody wants to tackle the issue of how we are going to pay for all of this. It means a huge investment over two or three decades and if it is going to happen at all it means profits will have to take a hit and be redirected to the effort. This has to be done. If we have any intent of staying in the game there is no choice. Frankly, nobody in government or the private sector even wants to talk about this. </p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Auto Execs Urge Tax on Fuel of Up To $8.00 by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Fine. Then figure out how we're going to fund a mass transit system that can support alternate modes of travel and how we're going to manage to supply an electric grid that will support an electric vehicle fleet. Should be no problem for a fucking genius like you.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Auto Execs Urge Tax on Fuel of Up To $8.00 by thepeoplechoose</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I don't know about that. Between home energy costs and vehicle energy costs this means people could well be looking at 25% of a $60K annual income being budgeted for energy costs. That's nuts.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on Historical Ignorance, Tea Bagger Style by saulgoodman</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is but one of a zillion contradictions we'll encounter between birth and death. This one I'm not so worried about. </p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on The DC Protest:  A Matter of Faith by GregorZap</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I have commented in the past about this. It had struck me that we have a situation where we have comingled an economic scheme and a scheme of governance and thus evolved a hybrid that is generally unworkable. Capitalism as an economic scheme and democracy as a scheme of governance imply some competing notions. Where one is not superior, logically democracy, the inclination to adhere to ethically inferior notions of conduct end in a general state of corruption of the national moral fiber. Comments stating the social contract having been broken reflects exactly this condition. So we recognize the flaw but have yet to figure out how to back out of this. An awareness of this on the part of the public is at an all time high. Congress has yet to arrive at a similar awareness.</p>]]>
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		    <title>thepeoplechoose Commented on DONKEY KONG AND ELEPHANT DUNG by dickday</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>WHERE DOES...</p>

<p>I don't know. While purely anecdotal, it should draw our attention that people are out of work, their homes are at risk, bankrupticies are running very high, economic activity is low and all the other things we read about but Wall Street is making money like crazy. I don't quite see how that is possible. Wall Street doesn't make anything. Why doesn't Wall Street reflect the general economic condition. I can't help but have the sinking feeling there is some sleight of hand going on and it is happening and has been happening with the assistance of our government.</p>

<p>This suggests the product of our country, reflected in dollars, has nothing to do with people being at work and producing real goods and services. Common sense tells me that just isn't possible. So the only way the bankers can make money is by bidding stocks up even though the underlying structure that defines the value doesn't support the price escalation. This brings me directly to one of my favorite subjects. That is, this has the appearance of being a big old lie. And the only reason this is possible is because a few very large financial institutions control a major portion of the national wealth. Which means they are making a ton of money purely through manipulating the nations finances. I don't see another possibility. And if correct, this is fraud on a huge scale.</p>]]>
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