Obama's leaving out single-payer in March 5 meeting
At the Congressional Black Caucus last week, Cong. John Conyers approached Pres. Barack Obama to ask for an invitation to the March 5 meeting Obama is having on healthcare for the nation. It seems Obama denied the request.
So no one who is an advocate of single-payer healthcare--including the man responsible for HR 676, a viable method of providing Medicare for everyone in the country while boosting the economy--will be at the meeting during which Obama may well decide the future of American healthcare.
Why? Beats me. The last I heard, Obama was open to hearing every option, and he'd only dismiss something if it didn't have support (as well as not being any good).
There's lots of support for HR 676 and single-payer healthcare. There's more and more evidence that the Massachusetts system, which word has it Obama is leaning towards, doesn't work.
I wish I had time to give you all the cites, sites, and specifics about this, but I've got to get off to a doctor's appointment to deal with strep throat. But there's been plenty written about this.
What needs to happen now is that Obama needs to be told by everyone who realizes that healthcare for all is central to this country's spiritual as well as economic recovery that single-payer healthcare is on the table for the majority of Americans who have it described to them without inflammatory rhetoric from the Right and the insurance companies.
Get Conyers and representatives from Physicians for a National Health Plan, the California Nurses' Association, and the Leadership Conference for Guaranteed Health Care to Obama's meeting! Do it now!
So no one who is an advocate of single-payer healthcare--including the man responsible for HR 676, a viable method of providing Medicare for everyone in the country while boosting the economy--will be at the meeting during which Obama may well decide the future of American healthcare.
Why? Beats me. The last I heard, Obama was open to hearing every option, and he'd only dismiss something if it didn't have support (as well as not being any good).
There's lots of support for HR 676 and single-payer healthcare. There's more and more evidence that the Massachusetts system, which word has it Obama is leaning towards, doesn't work.
I wish I had time to give you all the cites, sites, and specifics about this, but I've got to get off to a doctor's appointment to deal with strep throat. But there's been plenty written about this.
What needs to happen now is that Obama needs to be told by everyone who realizes that healthcare for all is central to this country's spiritual as well as economic recovery that single-payer healthcare is on the table for the majority of Americans who have it described to them without inflammatory rhetoric from the Right and the insurance companies.
Get Conyers and representatives from Physicians for a National Health Plan, the California Nurses' Association, and the Leadership Conference for Guaranteed Health Care to Obama's meeting! Do it now!
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1. I totally support single-payer.
2. It's not happening this round.
3. We should promote it anyway, thus pushing the Overton Window in our direction.
4. Obama should include single-payer advocates in discussions and we should push for this (which also should help him pass something at all promising, see Overton window above).
5. We shouldn't let the certain failure to pass single-payer this time around, and Obama's equally certain non-support, to either demoralize us, or sour us on Obama.
6. Live to fight another day, hopefully soon!
March 4, 2009 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Conyers' office reports he has now been invited.
March 4, 2009 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent news dedel. Good Catch. And thanks for the post F-tatrix.
March 4, 2009 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, and the Overton window.
March 4, 2009 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Second all above. Great comment and great post.
March 5, 2009 7:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Correct, but it's not a good sign that he was not on the original list!
March 5, 2009 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Overton Window construct is a useful one. Another way of expressing it is simpler and that is that when logrolling (powerful interests and decisionmakers contolling the debate and limiting both options and participants) is taking place amongst the powerful interests the interests of the public can only be heard and get to take part in the decisionmaking process if the conflict is expanded. Conflict in this case is the give and take between special interests and policymakers typically behind closed doors.
In other words, if the public interest is to be represented and if the public is to have any real voice in the matter, the battle must take place on an expanded playing field that includes more than just those who are traditionally the most powerful players and who normally are allowed to make all the decisions with little or no interference from the public.
The expanded playing field necessarily means that the balance of power shifts because of the more public nature of the debate when it is out in the open and the public's voice is allowed to be heard and exert influence. One of the major reasons Washington insiders like to work behind closed doors is to prevent any "messy" problems caused by "interference" by public interest advocates, etc...
So, with a nod to Overton's window, let make the rallying cry: "expand the conflict!"
March 5, 2009 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think if they would simply open Medicare to all who want it and let the insurances compete with that on a level playing field, most everyone will end up choosing Medicare as time goes on.
Single payer. It's where we need to end up. I wish it were where we could start.
Thanks for this blog!
March 4, 2009 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good idea.
March 4, 2009 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
More pressure on this president and congress. We are not going to get health insurance without acting up a whole lot more. Acting up as protesters and voters.
March 5, 2009 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
This president is against single payer health insurance. He is against mandating all adults have access to health insurance. He is for making health insurance provided by employers portable, making available to people the same plan that government workers have and mandating that all children have health care insurance. It isn't going to happen for the next four to eight years, which effectively puts it out of reach for another generation.
Universal single payer health care insurance is not an option at this time. We cannot afford the startup costs, which would be tremendous and we cannot afford at this time to put an entire industry, the health insurance companies, out of business.
March 5, 2009 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
You ask why Conyers is not included. The answer is simple: Conyers represents the interests of the people. That's a problem for the President. Obama's plan as offered on the campaign trail and as being fashioned behind closed doors at this time represents first and foremost the interests of the special interests involved and those interests are in opposition to the interests of the people of the United States.
You may recall early in last year's nomination contest that of the three major candidates, (Obama, Clinton, and Edwards) Obama had the most conservative, industry oriented plan of them all and it covered less people than the plans of the other two. He is under the delusion that people actually voted for his blueprint of subsidies for the health insurance companies and he is proceeding apace with it.
Obama has long been a captive of the special interests on this issue. That's as plain as can be. His position is very popular amongst the insiders of DC's political establishment. Like on numerous other issues, the people are way ahead of the politicians on health care.
The people are ready for a single payer health care system. We know it is the path the will provide health care for all in the most economical way for both individuals and businesses. But the rapaciousness of the special interest parasites in the insurance, drug, and medical fields who have engorged themselves with the blood of our people and our economy for years are harder to dislodge than a tic you didn't find on a camping trip until it was nearly ready to explode.
Well, now is the time to dislodge the parasites and make a real change on health care: the kind of change the people really want and not a plan of subsidizing the rotten system we now have so that more people are technically covered but that the insurance companies still do all they can to deny care for. Citizens who understand we have waited too long already to do the right thing must pressure the President and Congress in any and every way they can to push single payer to the fore. It's now or never folks.
Every naysayer from the President down to the street level who tries to sing the same tired song of "it can't be done" and "this is the best we can do" needs to be ignored and we need to insist that Congress and the President do what should have been done 60 years ago and establish a national health plan for all. Conyers' bill is the best means of doing so. I like the President, but he's just dead wrong on this issue. He needs to change his position and support single payer now. We need to make sure he hears the message and that he heeds it.
March 5, 2009 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I read above that Conyers is now invited. Good, but just window dressing if the other major groups advocating for the right response to the health care crisis are not also there. Keep up the pressure!
March 5, 2009 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oliver Fein, the president of Physicians for a National Healthcare Plan (PNHP), got invited to the meeting, as well. And attended.
Here is Dr. Fein's prepared statement:
At least single-payer got into the meeting, but the forces against it are strong. And they are doing their best to misinform.
Take a look at the report from the Health Care Community Discussions Obama's transition team invited Americans to host and participate in: http://www.healthreform.gov/reports/solutionsb.html.
From the report:
But those who are against single-payer healthcare have these kinds of opinions:
The Dark Side of the Force is strong, and we must gird our loins (and other parts, if we so deem) for a nasty fight.
But I think we can win it.
March 6, 2009 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm delighted to see this group included and am encouraged slightly.
The biggest problem that stands between the American people and a decent, single payer system is unfortunately the President of the United States who adamantly cleaves to the insurance companies and precludes any substantive debate about single payer as an option despite the fact that he knows very well all the things in the statement above are true. If we had the President on our side we would finally have a player strong enough to battle the insurance parasites. But he is sadly, in the name of pragmatic centrism, doing their work for them. This is a case where if the people hope to get a decent system they are going to have to shove it down the throats of the people who should be working for it on their behalf, namely the President and Congress. Otherwise, it will not happen.
March 6, 2009 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink