Some Worrisome Speculation About the Future of the GOP
This isn't the reader blog I was planning on writing this weekend.
I had planned to use the Democracy Corps/Greenberg Quinlan Rosner focus group report that we're all nattering about this weekend as the jumping off point for another discussion of racism and its many subtle modern faces. I had planned to discuss the role modern racism plays in the hard right's opposition to Obama and to those of us who are, to some degree, supporting him--whether self-described as "liberals," annoyed and frustrated "progressives" or annoying and frustrating "moderates." Problem was, I had only read about the report. I hadn't read it. Now that I have, I have to agree that Carville and Greenberg are right: racism is, in fact, quite beside the point.
They're right for the wrong reasons. I disagree with their conclusion that race doesn't have anything to do with the overly-emotive and irrational nature of the hardcore opposition. It is absolutely clear from the quoted comments of many of the people interviewed (Georgians all, of course) that a thoroughly sublimated racial prejudice, combined with a repressed guilt about the racism, is contributing to the mounting, unbearable anxiety that's been driving these people around the bend for years now. If nothing else, it is clear from their inability to concede that any of their fellows are motivated by racism and their conspiratorial touchiness about the allegation.
That racism is what I wanted to talk about. I wanted to start a conversation about how different it is from the racism of my grandfathers, and, subtly different even from the 1960s-style southern racial "moderation" of my father. I planned to go into detail about how we need to understand that difference and talk about it differently, among ourselves and with them, if we're ever going to root it out. I still believe that the contemporary form of racism would be a great thing to blog about if not for the fact that it is, at this point, the least of our worries. Would that that kind of racism was the biggest problem these people presented to the nation. (And yeah, that's what I'm going to keep calling them:"these people." If it be condescension, make the most of it) .
Let me state it plainly: these people represent a serious threat to the continuation of democracy itself in this country. Indeed, in my darker moments, and this would be one of them, I worry that this time period--the 90s and the first decade of this century--is where future historians will draw the line and say "this is when democracy finally failed in America." And all, directly and indirectly, because of what the modern hard right has become over the last couple of decades.
The Democracy Corps report didn't tell us anything we didn't already know at some level. For a long time now, we've been saying that about a quarter of the people in this country are simply mad. In the later Bush years, we called them the "thirty-percenters" but the reality check presented by hard times has distilled them down to their seemingly irreducible solid core, representing about 25-26% of the electorate and perhaps a similar percentage of the population as a whole. At first, our observations were couched in terms of exasperation at what we thought was mere mule-headedness and half in jest. The echos of that jesting phase still dominate our terminology: "batshit crazy," "the dittoheads," "loons." But the jest drained away, drop by drop, as we've watched them become ever more agitated and disassociated from reality. We saw the rising tide of violent rhetoric and behavior at the Palin rallies during the election and in the growing faction of people who are clearly similarly detached from reality who are in Congress: Inhofe, Coburn, DeMint, Bachman, Steve King, Virginia Foxx, Paul Broun, Joe Wilson, Sue Myrick, John Shedagg . . . the list goes on. Indeed, someone really needs to do a head count among the Republicans in Congress and try to get some idea of what percentage of them are faking it and what percentage are, in fact, stark raving mad.
Reading the report in preparation for my planned blog on modern racism forced me to confront the fact that there's no joke left. The country is in the grip of what can only be described as pandemic mass psychosis. It is a psychosis nurtured, fed and, to some extent created, by certain large corporations that find in it a steady market for their media content. Now, however, the psychosis is self-sustaining. Through email and Internet sites, social networking media and mere word of mouth, they could keep it going indefinitely if Fox News and Rush Limbaugh disappeared tomorrow.
And that's not the scary part.
The scary part is that the ideology they are developing has strong overtones of religious, or quasi-religious, hysteria. They feel persecuted and alienated. They nurture a sense of grievance over being "mocked" (and that's reality based, at least--they are mocked.) They think of themselves as a rapidly coalescing "underground" movement confronting an existential threat to America and democracy and all that they think is good and true in America.
And therein lies the bitter irony enveloping the intractable dilemma these people present the nation: the only real threat to America and democracy is them. The threat is two pronged.
The first prong is the very real danger they represent to the continued existence of the Republican Party and, hence, to the continuation of two-party democracy. The Democracy Corp report is primarily focused on this problem. To put it plainly, these people have undermined the ability of the Republican Party to function as a political party in a two-party system. Many of us, myself included, have noted that the Republicans are no longer good faith participants in the project of governance. Instead, we've observed that they have been reduced to unconcealed nihilism, a marginalized special interest group whose interest is obstruction for its own sake. And yet, despite the GOP's wholehearted endorsement of the agenda of what they still think of as their base, that base is directing nothing but apoplectic fury at the GOP. They are furious with, and feel utterly alienated from, the GOP's elites because they (rightly) perceive that at least some of the GOP's politicians are only pretending to be as crazy like they are.
For all the talk of 2010 being another 1994, the dissociation of the hard right from reality, and the consequent alienation and fury directed to the GOP elite, has created a completely untenable, and possibly terminal, situation for the GOP going into the next midterms. If you study the numbers closely and factor in the Republican Party's complete lack of anything that can plausibly be portrayed as a positive agenda, a good case can be made that their optimism about their prospects next year is apiece with the delusional thinking that has gripped the party's base. It is a continuation of the kind of delusion that made them think that the selection of Sarah Palin was a huge game changer.
"Believing your own bullshit" is one of the classic fatal mistakes of politics. Yet, in every public pronouncement these days, Republican politicians invariably say things like "Americans have overwhelmingly turned against" this or that part of Obama's agenda when, in fact, the polling shows the exact opposite. Logically, the purpose of this rhetorical device is to create an MSM meme and convince the public they've caught a wave, yet, listening to them, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that they believe it themselves. This is where the subtle racism I was going to write about comes into play: for most Republicans in Congress, "American" is synonymous with "white conservatives." If you're them and you see a lot of white people waving teabags, it's impossible not to conclude that "Americans" have "overwhelmingly" turned against Obama and the Democrat Congress. They see only their own numbers, the "real Americans" as they so often call them. All others, particularly brown others, are invisible to them. Indeed, there has long been a sense of grievance bubbling among many Republicans, sane and insane alike, that black and Hispanic votes count just as much as those of Real Americans.
Possibly I judge them too harshly. It could be that the GOP's elites are simply assuming that the anger of what they still think of as their base will prevail over a weakly motivated and dispirited left and assume that the indies will forget that the GOP caused the recession that's killing them. That may not be a bad bet for 2010. But that's beside the real point which is that, win or lose, the Republican base's disassociation from reality and alienation from the party elites creates a strong likelihood that 2010 will, in the long run, be catastrophic for the GOP.
If the the GOP loses seats in 2010, it will be in the competitive districts where Democratic or independent votes are needed, not the packed, deep-red ones that elect people like Bachmann and Broun. Such a loss will increase the pressure from the non-office holding party elites to abandon the base-crazies who will, rightly, be blamed for the loss. Among the base crazies, there will be retrenchment backed by their greater share of the elective offices than before the defeat. Given the GOP's already robust penchant for schismatic witch hunts and purging thought criminals, a loss in 2010 is a recipe for a civil war that could shatter the party.
However, if I'm wrong and the Republicans do win back Congress in 2010, they will be damned if they govern and damned if they don't. If they control Congress, the institutional imperative to cooperate with Obama in governing, even if only to the extremely limited and bitterly acrimonious extent that they cooperated with Clinton after the budget showdowns of 1995, will be powerful. The corporate interests need governance--their kind of governance, of course--to occur if they are to prosper. At a minimum, as we saw in the 90s, Congress has to pass a budget and the president has the veto. If they resist the imperative to govern, the resulting gridlock will result in rage and alienation among the indepentents, non-base Republicans and corporate interests who provide the campaign funds and the votes that are the party's only path back to power.
It is possible that such a win will also relieve the fear-fueling the insanity in the base, that the relief of having something to block the feared degeneration into dictatorship will defuse their anger and paranoia. (2006 had something like that effect on me, I must admit.) However, I expect that the palliation will be partial at best. Some millions will calm down and begin to see things in a less irrational light. Millions of others, however, will double down on the crazy. There are powerful forces with a vested interest in forestalling any cooling of the anger or re-association with conventional reality among the base. Fox News, talk radio, the NRA, the Dominionist project headed by Jim Dobson, and the right wing blogosphere do not prosper if these people calm down and start thinking clearly. And let's face it squarely, if they had tip-top critical thinking skills, they wouldn't idolize Beck, would they? Given that, I fear that after they get over the thrill of victory, the sight of Republicans in Congress even minimally engaging in governing, or doing anything other than rapidly achieving the destruction of Barack Obama and the evil Democrat Party, will likely cause the base's rage and alienation to explode and, once again, you have civil war within the party.
Democrats have institutionalized coping mechanisms for managing internal tension and factional strife. As the "big tent" party, they have had to do so and it's been that way for, quite literally, a couple of centuries now. Joining the victor on the platform is part of the Democratic Party's culture and tradition and it is built into the party's operating structure. Superdelegates were conceived as one such mechanism, for example. And even so, internal strife and factional infighting have often cost us dearly. That was the case in 1972 and 1980. It was almost the case in 1992. Depending on how you define "Democrat," one could argue that it also cost us the election in 2000. (Yes, this history is why I can sometimes degenerate into a unity troll.)
Republicans have no such mechanisms or structures. They've relied upon the quick selection process dictated by winner take all primaries and the streak of authoritarianism that has long marked its voters to paper over any little instances of discord. They are ideologically dedicated to homogeneity and they not equipped as a party to deal with serious factional disunity. Win or lose in 2010, the fault line between those who are associated with reality and those who are disassociated bears all the indicia of, to borrow William Seward's phrase, an irrepressible conflict.
So I continue to believe that the Republican Party is on the road to extinction. The forces are not aligned quite the way I foretold a year ago, but it's close enough. It is a house divided against itself. It may cease to exist altogether, or it may "become all one thing or all the other," but it cannot continue as it is now. Regardless of which side prevails in 2010, in the next few years the Republican Party stands a good chance of ceasing to be a meaningful political entity, perhaps for a few years, possibly forever. If that happens, we will, for some period of time, effectively become a one-party state and a one-party state is not really a democracy. Imagine a Democratic Party without meaningful electoral competition. Imagine the acceleration of corporate cooption and internal factional strife, the lethargy and self-satisfied moral and intellectual stagnation. Take a look at Mexico during the long period of Partido Revolucionario Institucional dominance and the Liberal Democrats in Japan between 1958 and 1990 if you want some idea of how it could look. Can we afford that now?
So that's the first threat that these people present to democracy. And, like I said, it's not the scary one.
The scary one derives from the fact that their "movement"--and increasingly, that's how they think of themselves--embraces tens of millions of people whose thinking is militaristic, hyper-nationalistic and, in many cases, dominated by a strain of apocalyptic authoritarian theocratic fundamentalism. They worship at the alter of the NRA and the fantasy of sturdy, self-reliant rugged individualists using their private arsenals to resist an oppressive government (ignoring, of course, the fact that their definition of "oppressive," is a government that's not oppressing the people that the hard right wants oppressed). They already feel persecuted and alienated. Whether they are ultimately the purgers or the purged, those feelings can only intensify.
Ten, twenty or thirty million people feeling extreme alienation from the political system, feelings of oppression and ridicule, militancy, apocalyptic fundamentalist theocratic religious beliefs. Economic, social and cultural location and consequent extreme anxiety. A certain level of actual military experience sprinkled among that population. And guns. Lots and lots of guns.
That's the recipe for terrorism. Don't think it can't happen here.
Do the math. Assume the group I'm talking about now gets boiled down to a hard core of ten million really crazy people as the rhetoric becomes ever more inflammatory. Assume one tenth of one percent of that ten million decides it is compelled to take up arms against an oppressive government that is hellbent on destroying liberty. That's ten thousand people. Assume five percent of the ten million are impressed enough with them to lend them active support in the form of money, shelter and supplies. That's a support network of half a million. And remember all the gnashing of teeth and disgust at the failure of "moderate" Muslims to condemn Osama Bin Laden? How hard is it to imagine a similar kind of acquiesence by silence setting in here?
The training infrastructure already exists. There's already growing alarm at the increasing degree of networking among militia groups, anti-abortion extremists and Fourth Reich nuts. It could happen here. It already has.
Note: I retitled this at the suggestion of Cville Dem. The Halloween reference was a bad idea. I think I was trying to lighten up my own mood after writing an unusually heavy, brooding post. Hopefully, someday I'll look back on the content of this blog and laugh at my own alarmism, but for now, it isn't funny.
















I believe that the Republican Party is on its way to extinction. It is inevitable because too few in the party have evolved in their world view. Evolution has its own track and as the rest of the country evolves and a majority of the Republican Party does not, it can only become diminished and eventually obsolete.
I think it is prudent to be concerned and cautious regarding what kind of damage they do in this dying out process.
I also believe that a new party will emerge or another reinvent itself to address the shifting perspectives of the people.
Some conflicts are likely to ensue until we can redetermine our course as a democracy.
A government of, by, and for the people in a democracy should be able to integrate the best of all systems of governing including the best of capitalism and socialism. Other, older democracies have already demonstrated that we are destined to encounter this need in the process of our evolution.
The ability of a country to learn and grow and for its government to reflect that is crucial.
The main problem I see is the financial system and the concerted efforts the republican, neocon, pseudo-christian mafia groups have made to hoard wealth and power and to make international connections to strengthen their sense of security and control. Something's got to give as it is not realistic that a more evolved majority will accept for long being ruled by a less evolved minority as under the circumstances it is impossible for them to govern well.
October 18, 2009 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Highly rec'd and very informative. One major question pops out in my mind: These people, who are loaded with weapons, and who talk very tough, are the same ones who are scared to death of having Gitmo prisoners transferred to SuperMax prisons here, right? They're the same ones who are afraid of any change, even for the better. I just can't wrap my mind around those same pussies actually standing up to fight against, presumably; armed people.
They are brave in the woods, when their foe is a deer or a bird, but even out the odds, and I just don't see it happening. These are the people who are happy to give up their right to privacy out of fear that getting a warrant would prevent the FBI from eavesdropping on the next binLadin.
Just one suggestion: I almost didn't read this because of the title; I am not a Halloween fan and I thought it was going to be a dopey story. I don't know if others are like me, but I would like to see this get more views and responses. Maybe making the title more reflective of the content would bring more people here.
October 18, 2009 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not exactly the same ones -- the base demographic is older but also contains a number of Christianists in the regular army and some in militias.
The Great Recession may have done us a favor by diluting those in the military with ordinary folk who are there because of economic pressures.
October 19, 2009 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
On a related note, a story from today's Boston Globe: Secret Service Straned as Leaders Face More Threats.
October 18, 2009 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Steve, I think you're heavily underplaying one factor - the economy. It's in a terrible state, and though the freefall appears to have stopped, there aren't many voices out there proclaiming employment and home ownership will now rally. And "It's the economy, stupid" has enormous, decades-long, international evidence to back it as a powerful electoral force. Say what we want, the economy is seen - day by day - more as being "Obama's." And since NOBODY has a serious, but simple, answer to how to fix it... that vacuum could well be filled by the mad hatters.
A canny leader of that insane 25%-30% base would simply aim to mobilize resentments. That's it, that's all. And there'll be lots of resentments to go around. I worry far less about the Republicans imploding or failing than I do them surging, backed by the batshits. I have no doubt most liberals look at this and think, "I don't want to be alarmist." But I think in order to avoid an alarming conclusion, they are having to abandon cold-eyed realism on the economy, and what it means for any governing party.
Shorter - It's more than worrisome.
October 18, 2009 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's how they win, but, like I said, winning in 2010 could be just as catastrophic for them as losing. If they win, they're damned (by the nutters) if they govern, and damned (by the corporations, sane Republicans and independents) if they don't.
October 18, 2009 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
But we don't have that much time left to let this play out! The climate-control deniers, the money-changers, the text-book writers, the war-lovers are hot to get back in control. In Texas, the text-book writers are already re-writing history! Can we really survive another iceburg?
I would have predicted that having a doofus like George Bush would show republicans what a mess he would make of our country, but look what happened -- he succeeded in making a HUGE mess! And managed to convince a considerable percentage of the population that to disagree was to disavow our very country! The same people who now call themselves "tea-baggers" from outrage over our national debt were silent as they stood at attention as he lied his way into just about everything.
That ineffectual, frat-boy, dry-drunk, dope got everything he wanted! And the destruction and damage goes on. Why? Because Dems were either too polite, or too afraid to be labeled "anti-war" to go against such a patriotic enterprise as war. George Bush and Dick Cheney should have been impeached. They will never be held accountable. Why do you think that a future republican majority would be?
October 18, 2009 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aren't 'those people' really just responding to dog whistle rhetoric? All the crap they are shouting about is BS that has been put into play for the purpose of getting them out to defeat HCR. After that is done for better or worse the astro turf pupetters will stop whistling and 'those people' will go dormant again. They will still be angry but with no corporate funders/planners to hire the busses and send out the word where to go...poof. As to how they vote for or against congress persons, They only know what they are told. Joe Crazyman from the third district can vote the straight Obama agenda and go home on break screaming how he's stoppin' that damned Kenyan traitor in his tracks and the will believe because they want to believe.
October 19, 2009 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good post, NC Steve. But I still don't see the numbers for the batshits ruling. Do you really think Goldman Sacks, Citibank et al will let those wingers take over? The Dominionists had the PERFECT opportunity under Shrub to take over and they blew it. The extreme libertarians have been flapping for years they are going to win and haven't yet. Some ex-in-law relation told my nephew that he was driving around the southwest a couple of months ago and people EVERYWHERE were really pissed and they were going to march on the white house and take over. I say BS - the media is cranking this fantasy for all it is worth. Just like they did with the PUMAs.
Yes, the racists are more vocal. They are just absolutely flipped right out that there is a black man in the white house, no doubt. And they do pose a threat to the president - it is truly awful. But, most Americans are fat, lazy and just can't work themselves into that much of an revolt. There aren't that many of them that are going to get outta the house with their guns when dancing with the stars is on.
By the way, I do think that a lot of the anger is fueled by racism and it is easy to find - the ones that "want their country back" or yell about socialism. I look forward to you doing a post on the old racism v. new racism, NC Steve, because I believe you'll provoke some interesting discussion.
October 18, 2009 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The batshits may not be able to rule, but they can make it nearly impossible for their ostensible "allies" to rule. Their allies need their votes at the same time they need to duct-tape their mouths and ignore their issues, and I doubt if they're going to stand for that again.
October 19, 2009 12:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
A ton of good points, splashy. I always look for your name when I want to see a bit of probity and logic with regards to examining our shared delusions. I wish I could see the same sort of understanding a more widespread phenomenon.
The takeover of the GOP was completed in the 1980s and "those people" have had a nice run, but it's over now.
When Susan Eisenhower leaves the republican party because it is too far right and a guy like Micheal Steele takes over the top spot at the RNC, there is a problem that won't be solved by fat dudes on Lay-Z-Boys screaming at the television and cleaning their 9 millimeter or their CAR-15.
I think what we are witnessing is the initial stirrings of an incumbent bloodbath in both parties that will shift things back to the more populist, center-left philosophy that stood rock-solid from 1932 until 1968.
October 19, 2009 7:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michael Steele is a walking, talking parody of himself. Moo.
October 19, 2009 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jeezus, Quinn, when you look at the economy, it's not hard to consider that it was the economic meltdown that enabled the 3rd Reich and the King of Batshit Crazy to assume power. It's the economy stupid. Either we get people back to work, or we will be subject to thos ethings that happen when hands are idle, hands lacking the gift for critical thinking inlfuenced by the Crazies who turn their sadness/depression into anger.
October 19, 2009 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
A well thought-out and written post. Unless I overlooked it, you do not address a major, pending, problem for the other 66% of us. This health care reform effort is splitting the Dems and Independents. How many times have the Republicans used "the divide and conquer" technique to squeak-out a win? The public option dilemma ain't something to be taken lightly.
October 18, 2009 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
We're glad you're from the northern version of Carolina; I doubt we would have an equivalent commenter formerly known as SCSteve---the people a bit south of you are truly gone.
Strong argument, and those folks scare me. As Quinn points out, though, a savvy demagogue could do it. I can't see it being Palin, but won't bet the farm against it.
October 18, 2009 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The usual excellent writing...bit glooming...too alarmist.
As blue suggests, it's the rare few who lever themselves out of the recliner and off to even a rally or a picket line. It's racist but that's not very unusual in the Southern section of our country, especially among the older folks. There's always a violent few that will use any excuse for a rampage so we can't be complacent.
I'm more optimistic. The coalition that the Republicans gathered under Nixon is now breaking down as it becomes a regional party. There will be another national party--I suspect it will be a centrist party.
October 18, 2009 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Steve, you paint a pretty scary picture, and I can see nothing in what you say to disagree with.
As many who have followed my difficulties with my uncle know, I am related to one of the wingers. One of the crazy ones. He sees himself as a patriot, and once upon a time he was. But now, in his 70's, he thinks Obama is the anti-Christ (seriously) and says they will take the country back by force if necessary. Practically speaking, at his age, he is probably all talk, no show, but, he is heavily armed and mentally unbalanced. Who knows what that could lead to under the right circumstances.
It is good to have a healthy fear of them.
October 19, 2009 12:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think think the Republican Party is worth preserving for the sake of having a two party system, or frankly for any other reason. When they lose by 5% I'm annoyed they didn't lose by 10. The extent to which government doesn't work is a direct measurement of Republicans' influence on it.
There are plenty of thoughtful, reasonable, non racist, sane conservatives within the Democratic Party. That is where good people can have an honest difference of opinion.
Republicans, increasingly, are neither. So the whole GOP can STFU as far as I'm concerned.
October 19, 2009 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
After the incredible thrill of Obama's victory last November, I
find myself shocked and dismayed to witness the sheer
rage & insanity of the fright-wing. I truly had no idea that so many human beings could be this disgusting or that I live with such rampant bigotry.
Frankly, after witnessing such out of control and outrageous behavior, I find myself feeling relieved that I'm only going to be alive perhaps 20 more years. I really don't want to be around for
another GOP takeover or -god forbid - an assassination.
October 19, 2009 2:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
The current right-wing reaction to the election of Obama is a mirror image of the similar right-wing reaction to the election of FDR in the 30's. Even the language they are using is the same, just recycled.
Among other similarities, the Texas ultra-right wingers did everything they could to defeat FDR for reelection in every election. The language used to was to attack the New Dealers and labor as Communists. They used fundamentalist evangelical churches to organize and try to get voters to the polls to defeat FDR. Race-baiting was a core issue in the attacks on the Democrats in federal office.
Of course, in the 30's in Texas this was all done by a radical right-wing branch of the Democratic Party with a series of leaders that included "Pappy" Lee O'Daniel and Congressman Martin Dies.
October 19, 2009 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
After the incredible thrill of Obama's victory last November, I
find myself shocked and dismayed to witness the sheer
rage & insanity of the fright-wing. I truly had no idea that so many human beings could be this disgusting or that I live with such rampant bigotry.
Frankly, after witnessing such out of control and outrageous behavior, I find myself feeling relieved that I'm only going to be alive perhaps 20 more years. I really don't want to be around for
another GOP takeover or -god forbid - an assassination.
October 19, 2009 2:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent job, Steve. You drew some conclusions that I hadn't even considered. I had posted at Richardxx's blog about not agreeing with the Democracy Corps' conclusion about race fueling rage among the base. The one line 'Get over it' was facile and misleading. I thought, too, that they had noted that many respondents knew they had been painted as racists; obviously they were careful about taking the bait, or 'given every opportunity' to comment on it. I still think there needs to be a wider vocabulary when speaking about race.
As to the comments about the Wingers being too lazy to get off their barca-loungers to wage a revolution: They have kids; who are they, and of what political persuasion are they? I can also picture once shots were fired that the flames of panic and fear and mission and reclamation-of-country could spread like wildfire. The rural Colorado county where I live might be about as well-armed as any in the nation, save maybe a few in Idaho. There is a very strong contingent of Glenn Beck devotees; the letters section in the paper mirrors the worst of the comments among those in the report; few dissenters even bother to respond any longer. Here the Birchers have a strong presence at the base of the movement; they even hold shooting instructions at some of the churches, and no, I am not kidding. Gun shows happen at the schools, and if a person raises objections, they are crucified. I would like to think that they are impotent, but I'm not betting on it.
October 19, 2009 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I, too, think that the conclusions about racism are silly and oblivious to the barely concealed reality.
And I'll say that for the reasons you indicate, civil unrest is a real possibility. Another reason by the way that I am proud of my President for clipping Fox's seditionist wings.
What I don't think is that a bunch of David Koresh types or McVeighs are going to get very far, no matter what.
October 19, 2009 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm totally with you about the death of the GOP, and I agree our system is doomed to cronyism and corruption without it. As for the threat of violence, it's real. There is a national ammunition shortage! I just find it hard to believe that all those guns and all that ammo purchased the last year or two are all going to just collect dust forever.
October 19, 2009 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Steve, you have put together a bunch of things that have really bothered me but that I had not connected the way you did. Thank you. I very much agree with your concerns.
When I read the Democracy Corps report I blew off the comments on the absence of racism is being just the fact that the researchers did not find overt expressed racism as I was used to five decades ago. I felt (and still feel) that they were simply reporting what their research found without explanation. It had not occurred to me that it was repressed racism. But it is. You nailed it.
Sara Robinson wrote about the steps towards Fascism a couple of months ago at Orcinus, as described by Robert O. Paxton. My (almost certainly oversimplified) understanding of fascism is that it starts with a violent and angry populist minority searching for enemies to attack, then combines with wealthy and corporate backers who use the street violence to attack unions and to overwhelm and neuter the police. Your comment on the problems the Secret Service is having shows how that can be done. The violent populists typically start in the rural areas according to Paxton. This describes the militia movement to some extent. Paxton describes the Post-Civil War KKK as the first example of such a fascist populist organization.
The corporations and wealthy then finance the right-wing politicians who use the chaos to promise to calm things down and get themselves catapulted - invited, in fact - into power as the only politicians offering any solution. The politicians then immediately are forced to use authoritarian methods to enforce calm, and generally have to start a foreign war to maintain power (much as the Argentine Generals did with the Falklands.)
I think you have described almost all these elements bouncing around. Whether the right-wing will truly disrupt society enough to get the right-wing politicians back into power is questionable, and so is the role of the Dominionists (who I consider a truly dangerous underground organizing force in America.) A second dip into the Great Recession could intensify everything.
So far I don't see a right-wing leader poised to take advantage of all this. Sarah Palin would be a real long-shot, but if a political svengali took control of her she might do.
Another requirement I still see missing is a hapless, helpless government which has lost control of the violence and is seen to be failing to act to maintain order. While that may describe the Democratic Party leadership, I don't think it describes the Executive Branch. In fact, the current effort to neutralize FOX seems to me to be an extremely positive move by the Obama administration.
I don't think you are overstating the political dangers America currently faces. I don't expect to see full blown American Fascism with a gun and a cross [*], which is probably what we would see. But I suspect that we right now are observing a set of political dynamics that resemble those my father saw during the Great Depression.
Thank you for an extremely good article, Steve.
[*] It strikes me that the sacred emblems of the extreme right wing we are discussing right now really do seem to be the gun, the cross, and of all things, the tea bag.
October 19, 2009 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent observations, Richard. My opinion, though, is that the promise to restore sanity was made by Nixon and carried forward by the GOP from that time. I think we are seeing the dying embers of that particular era.
It doesn't make it any less dangerous--cornered rats comes to mind. :)
October 19, 2009 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think I am missing something here. I accept that conservatives are traditionalists who run for election on a platform of reversing recent social changes and restoring a lost but glorious past. But that doesn't seem to me to connect with any promise to "restore sanity" if somehow that promise is currently dying away.
What have I misunderstood or missed?
October 19, 2009 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The history of revoluton is not about seizing power, but merely about destroying it. Post-revolution, there is a period of consolidation when competing groups vie for power. It is seldom the ones expected to win that prevail. The history is written to suggest that it was, but the truth is Lenin was ready to abandon the revolution and in Germany when the autocracy came crashing down. It was not a coordinated effort that led to the collapse, but a widespread disintegration, death by a thousand cuts.
Post-revolution, whoever comes out on top rules as best they can with whatever is left following the carnage/destruction. Many decades later, it might become something, but it will be decades. It is obvious the Crazies are incapable of grasping the fact they lack any capacity to rule this country and the fact very few of them will live to see it. But it is also clear they do have the narcissistic penchant to tear things down if they are not the way they want it. "If I can't have it, then nobody can have it." It's a murder-suicide waiting to happen. Buit I do believe things will have to get a whole lot worse before we come to that.
The Bolsheviks promised, "Peace, Land, and Bread" and it carried wide appeal. At this point, we are not at war as a nation. We have a few thousand of 300 million overseas. Essentially, we do have Peace here. It's hardly the decimating conditions of WWI. We are not agrarian, so the land issue is obsolete. As long as we have a dollar menu, there will be no starvation. We will simply become sick and die of seemingly unrelated health issues(Reference Fast Food Nation).
Revolution here? No, we are not experiencing the requisite poverty that leads people to desparate measures. Wearing a gun and using it are two different things, and Timothy McVeigh provoked nothing despite a sensational explosion.
As for the GOP, they are destined to obtain no more then 30% until they figure out how to remove the crazies from their party, but for now, it appears that is all they have to depend upon for the next election as they lack any appeal to the middle with their rhetoric. Elections are won in the middle as the extremes can rely on that base, but need to move far enough to the middle to attract a majority. The GOP is no where near the middle at this point. The question of their survival is whether their war chest can last through this slump.
October 19, 2009 12:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gregor, you make a good argument. So let me offer the counter argument.
How do the 30% who make up the current Republican Party remove the crazies when the crazies are two-thirds of that 30%? Just wondering.
As for your statement "...[W]e are not experiencing the requisite poverty that leads people to desparate measures." I am concerned that the strange belief being sold by the media that the Great Recession is over is going to lead to a failure to deal with the fact that many of the things that have caused the recession are still getting worse, not better.
Take the accelerating pace of foreclosures, for example. The home is the only wealth most families possess. Taking that from them makes them a great deal less secure. That's in addition to the lowering of the value of the homes the rest of us have the foreclosures causes, so the insecurity is a lot wider than just the actual foreclosed families.
Consider the possibility that oil is going to start being priced in a basket of currencies instead of the dollar. This WILL lead to a drop in the value of the dollar and to a decline in the American standard of living if the dollar ceases to be the international reserve currency. It's no longer just political crazy talk by Hugo Chavez and the Iranians.
Unemployment is still climbing, even if not as rapidly as last Spring. The engine of the macro economy, consumer spending, is not presently coming back and does not seem likely to because the consumers do not have any additional income. They are no longer likely to borrow to consume any more, assuming they could get credit.
The stimulus program is currently shielding the nation from the worst of Bush's Great Recession, but it is only going to last for the next year or so. Will the Congress have the political will to renew it and to increase the deficit even further next year? The election year will sharpen the issues for the two sides.
I agree that the crippling poverty that has frequently caused revolutions does not currently exist in America outside politically impotent minority communities. Nor is it likely to occur. But America has been an extremely wealthy nation for a long time, and a second dip in the Great Bush Recession will radically lower the wealth of the middle class. That sharp decline in wealth may trigger radical political reactions, especially when there are the tea-bag crazies also operating to give the reactions form. Revolutions occur when the middle class feels desperate.
Added to all this we are in the midst of some truly radical economic and political changes, and the media combines blithe ignorance with flat out lies to hide the risks while stoking the political controversies. Bad changes are going to surprise and anger the general population, and they will empower those who are currently arguing for radical changes.
Then there is the fact that our congress is designed to only function effectively when there is an overwhelming consensus to act in a specific way, and the current political split in this nation guarantees no consensus.
The problem may not be true economic desperation. It may just be the widespread belief in desperation with great fear that things are getting worse and fear that no one is preventing it from getting worse. There could very soon be good evidence that would support such beliefs.
I'm not at all sure that I can accept your apparent belief that revolution is very unlikely here.
October 19, 2009 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
We have a long way to go before there is any widespread use of arms against the gov't. However, I am not discounting the notion that it cannot happen here. Marx thought Russia was safe from revolution because it was not industrialized. He was very clearly wrong.
What the crazies lack is a clear vision of where they want to go, an objective. The healthcare reform debate is the perfect example. Okay, they are against everything, then what is their plan, or why should we retain the present system? {crickets} They have nothing. There is no common goal, although they have this cryptic tendency to refer to the Constitution and Founding Fathers as though they were the Bible and the Apostles. One cannot take them seriously as they lack any legitimate foundation for their agenda.
October 19, 2009 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
These days it wouldn't be guns. It would be bombs and IEDs.
Guns themselves are mostly archaic in an insurgency at least in the early stages of violence. But they are certainly emblems of violence and rebellion.
October 22, 2009 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink