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   <title>CIA Interrogation Program: Why Prosecution would be unfair</title>
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   <published>2009-01-26T15:56:03Z</published>
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   <summary><![CDATA[ This will be a brief discussion of why I at least am against prosecution for the CIA Program.First we need some background understanding.&nbsp;The story begins early in the &quot;war on terror&quot;, after the attacks everyone assumed we would be...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[ <p>This will be a brief discussion of why I at least am against prosecution for the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644.html">CIA Program</a>.</p><p>First we need some background understanding.&nbsp;</p><p>The story begins early in the &quot;war on terror&quot;, after the attacks everyone assumed we would be hit again and there was great fear.</p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 17px; ">Six days after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush signed a sweeping finding that gave the CIA broad authorization to disrupt terrorist activity, including permission to kill, capture and detain members of al Qaeda anywhere in the world.</span></p></blockquote><p>This is fine, and what we should do, but after 9/11 it is clear that the Bush administration wanted the law pushed to their limits, the administration wanted maximium latitude and authority to carry out the war on terrror.</p><p>Second we will need to discuss the Janurary 2002 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bybee_memo">Bybee memo</a>, and the office of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Legal_Counsel">OLC</a>. here is where the story gettings interesting. The thing about an OLC memo is its force</p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">The Office also is responsible for providing legal advice to the executive branch on all constitutional questions and reviewing pending legislation for constitutionality. </span><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">The decisions of the Office are binding on all executive agencies.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>The most important part is that highlighted party, unless overruled by the President, Attorney General or the Deputy Attorney General, if the OLC says it in a memo, then its Law for executive agencies.&nbsp;</p><p>Thus we are at a point, the Bush administration wants to push interpretation of the law to the limits to fight the war on terror and asks the OLC for advice, the OLC &nbsp;responds with the Bybee memo which, being an OLC memo, is now binding on all executive agencies, and <a href="http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/06/olcs_aug_1_2002_torture_memo_the_bybee_memo.html">what does it say</a>?</p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 14px; ">he memo concludes that the restrictions are very limited &mdash; that only acts inflicting and &ldquo;specifically intended to inflict severe pain or suffering&rdquo;, whether mental or physical, are prohibited. Allowed are severe mental pain not intended to have lasting effects (pity if they do&hellip;), and physical pain less than that which acompanies &ldquo;serious physical injury such as death or organ failure&rdquo; (p. 46). Having opined that some cruel, inhuman, or degrading acts are not forbidden, only those that are &ldquo;extreme acts&rdquo; (committed on purpose)</span></p></blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 14px; ">as is pointed <a href="http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/06/olcs_aug_1_2002_torture_memo_the_bybee_memo.html">out</a></span></p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 14px; ">When the Senate ratified the Torture Convention in 1994 it stated &ldquo;[t]hat the United States considers itself bound by the obligation under Article 16 to prevent &lsquo;cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,&rsquo; only insofar as the term &lsquo;cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment&rsquo; means the cruel, unusual and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and/or Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.&rdquo;</span></p></blockquote><p>But what does the Fifth, Eighth and Fourteeth Amendments mean to a non U.S citizen in another country? what type of CID did the fathers intend to prevent the U.S from doing halfway across the world? A loophole may or may not have been created for the CIA. it goes as follows.&nbsp;</p><p class="rtecenter"><u><strong>&nbsp;Treatment of Detainees</strong></u></p><p>This we will break down now. What the CIA was thinking for sure obviously we don't know, but as a current Constitutional Law professor and former CIA prosecutor discusses&nbsp;<a href="http://he memo concludes that the restrictions are very limited &mdash; that only acts inflicting and &ldquo;specifically intended to inflict severe pain or suffering&rdquo;, whether mental or physical, are prohibited. Allowed are severe mental pain not intended to have lasting effects (pity if they do&hellip;), and physical pain less than that which acompanies &ldquo;serious physical injury such as death or organ failure&rdquo; (p. 46). Having opined that some cruel, inhuman, or degrading acts are not forbidden, only those that are &ldquo;extreme acts&rdquo; (committed on purpose)">here</a>.&nbsp;</p><blockquote><p>The Bush administration's stated policy against torture is consistent with the Consititution and with state and federal statues. Even so, for several years after 9/11, a loophole may have allowed the CIA to conduct interrogations that were severe but short of torture <em>[Bybee Memo] - </em>according to the administration's definition. This loophole depended on a distinction between &quot;torture&quot; and &quot;cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment&quot; (CID), two related concepts from the Convention Against Torture. Even before torture was made a federal crime, under the Constitution and other statutes, both torture and CID were illegal for interrogations within the United States. The federal statute, which was passed after the United States ratifed the Convention Against Torture, applies to torture outside the United States, making it a crmie if the offender is a United States national, or is present in the United States. T<strong>his statute does not mention CID. &nbsp;</strong>Therefore, in interrogations that the CIA conducted on non U.S citizens outside the United States, CID may have continued past the December 2004 Office of Legal Counsel memorandum. The CIA, unlike the Defense Department, is not controlled by the strict standards of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. As a result, the CIA may have operated in a gary zone below its definition of torture but beyond what the criminal justice system permits in the questioning of suspects and defendants. For a while, the CIA may have felt safe to use CID, but not torture, on suspected terroirsts who were afforded fewer rights than American citizens.&nbsp;</p></blockquote><p>The 2004 &nbsp;OLC memo &quot;Levin Memo&quot; stated in footnote 8&nbsp;</p><blockquote><p>While we have identified various disagreements with the August 2002 Memorandum, we have reviewed this Office's prior opinions addressing issues involving treatment of detainees and do not believe that any of their conlcusions would be different under the standards set forth in this momorandum</p></blockquote><p>as we noted the OLC memo is binding unless overruled, beyond describing the limitation of behavior for interrogators, the 2002 Bybee Memo also concluded that&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions">Common Article III</a>&nbsp;did not apply to the U.S conflit with al Qaeda.&nbsp;</p><p>Here is the point of a legal gray area. The OLC memo says that Common Article III of the Geneva Convention doesn't apply espeically since it states&nbsp;</p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">In the case of armed conflict not of an international character <strong>occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties</strong>, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:</span></p></blockquote><p>Thus before 2006 the OLC had interpreted laws and statues to say that the CIA could go pretty damn far, the problem is in 2006 the Supreme Court decided <em>Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. </em>This is the case that found Bush's military commissions were not sufficient and couldn't be used to try Hamadan for violating the laws of war, since the commissons themselves did not meet the standards of the UCMJ and Common Article III. in its decision the Supreme Court stated that Common Article III applied to ALL aspects of the U.S conflit with al Qaeda.</p><p><u><strong>Problem with Common Article III</strong></u></p><p>The problem with Common Article III? its vague, (yes this is what all that back and forth with Bush when he called the geneva convention vague was about)&nbsp;</p><p>as we discussed thanks to the OLC memos and their lawyers very agressive interpretation of laws, the CIA had acted under 4 years of belief that Common Article III did not apply and that CID was ok up to an extreme point. now that Common Article III appiled so did 3 important provisions</p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;</span></p><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px; ">(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;</span></p></blockquote><p>Here was the problem what does &quot;outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment&quot; mean? and whose perspective? the resonable person? al Qaeda? the terrorist? the reasonable terrorist? reasonable al Qaeda terrorist? Would not allowing a Muslim detainee to pray be an outrage upon personal dignity? its one thing to debate, but when you have been operating for 4 years, and must continue to do so, you want a little bit more guidance then &quot;outrages upon pesonal dignity&quot; espeically since it is a War Crime to violate ANY part of the Geneava Convention and the &quot;following orders&quot; (OLC Memo) is not an excuse.&nbsp;</p><p>and we all know what that means as, Michael points out at the end of his discussion of the <a href="http://www.discourse.net/archives/2004/06/olcs_aug_1_2002_torture_memo_the_bybee_memo.html">2002 OLC memo</a></p><blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 14px; ">Remember: the lawyers who wrote this memo were guilty of a lack of moral sense, and extreme tunnel vision fueled by a national panic. The people who asked them to write it, who read it, and </span><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 13px; line-height: 14px; ">especially any who may have acted on it &mdash; they&rsquo;re people who really have the most to answer for.</span></strong></p></blockquote><p>Indeed and there is why I will be against any repeal of the Military Commissions Act of 2006 &nbsp;(precluding the widest application of Common Article III). The problem is the MCA can easily be deemed unconstitutional or change, and there is no stature of limitations for War Crimes. thus any CIA officer at the bottom who trusted an OLC memo they were never allowed to see, may or may not have commited War Crimes, which they could easily be prosecuted for in 20 years if the U.S Government in order to make some of the more liberal Americans happy ever decides it needs to fully prosecute torture.&nbsp;</p><p>at the very least, I don't support American's being proseucted for war crimes, because they were trying to do their job, and because some lawyers may have pushed their definitions and interpretations of law a little to hard.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]>
      
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   <title>Norm Coleman tied to Robocalls? ouch!</title>
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   <published>2008-10-17T20:41:11Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-17T20:43:20Z</updated>
   
   <summary>(crossposted at TCDem&apos;s Hole in the Wall) soooo I take it what I just read over at MNPublius is going to hit the TPM front pages eventually, and after that hmmmm. I bet the NEXT press confrence is going to...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<em>(crossposted at <a href="http://tcdem.blogspot.com/">TCDem's Hole in the Wall</a>)</em> <br /><br />soooo I take it what I just read over at MNPublius is going to hit the TPM front pages eventually, and after that hmmmm.

I bet the NEXT press confrence is going to be even better from the Coleman Campaign.

so we are all aware of the <a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/worst_yet_mccain_campaign_robo.php">nasty calls</a> about Barack Obama that people have been getting but where do they come from?
 <a href="http://mnpublius.com/2008/10/norm-colemans-friend-and-landlord-behind-nasty-robocalls/">Aaron Landry</a> take it away:<br /><br /><blockquote>
The calls are nasty and the legality of the calls are being questioned.

Who's behind these? FLS Connect. The same FLS that stands for Tony Feather, Jeff Larson and Tom Synhorst. Jeff Larson, being the same Jeff Larson that's Norm Coleman's buddy and landlord. The same friend that gives him the exorbitantly cheap rent, the same friend that paid his utilities, the same friend that has an FLS Connect office in the same basement as Coleman's bedroom, the same friend that lobbied to bring the RNC to Saint Paul, the same friend's wife that worked in Coleman's office and the same friend that Coleman spent over a million on to help run his campaigns.</blockquote>


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   <title>sigh....</title>
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   <published>2008-10-16T16:25:44Z</published>
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   <summary>as a black man in this country, sigh is all I got to this...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[as a black man in this country, sigh is all I got to this<br /><br /><br /> 

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   <title>The Voting Fraud the GOP is afraid of?</title>
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   <published>2008-10-16T16:03:37Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-16T16:06:02Z</updated>
   
   <summary>I am sick of Joe the Plumber and whether or not he paid his taxes, or is registered to vote. but all this did discover one thing, the voting rolls had his name missspelt by 1 letter. and as this...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I am sick of Joe the Plumber and whether or not he paid his taxes, or is registered to vote.</p>
<p>but all this did discover one thing, the voting rolls had his name missspelt by 1 letter.</p>
<p>and as this post points out these are the types of voters RIGHT NOW being challenged!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Purging_Joe_the_plumber.html#comments">Ben Smith:</a><br />
</p><blockquote><br />
Purging Joe the plumber?
<p>Would Joe be thrown off the rolls if he registered in Ohio today?</p>
<p>The Toledo Blade reported today that <b>"Joe the Plumber's" name appears on Ohio voter registration rolls with a slight misspelling -- as Worzelbacher, not Wurzelbacher.</b></p>
<p>And that sort of data-entry error might be enough -- <b>were Joe a new registrant -- to have him disqualified from voting in Ohio, Florida, or Wisconsin this year, depending on the outcome of ongoing litigation.</b></p>
<p>Purging voters or blocking their registration because of data errors is disenfranchisement by typo," said Michael Waldman, the executive director of the Brennan Center for Justice, a liberal legal group involved in litigation in those states. <b>"Joe is a perfect example. If he were anew voter, he would be being challenged right now as not eligible to vote."</b></p>
<p>"Joe the Plumber is not committing voter fraud by having his name spelled differently on two different lists," he said. </p>

<p><b>For instance, Florida officials in 2006 removed the name of Jose Lopez-Sandin, after officials typed his name in as "Joseph Lopez-Sandin." They also removed the name of Anne Nguyen after election officials typed her name as "Ann Nguyen."</b></p>
<p>"Because he's the famous 'Joe the Plumber' it seems like an obvious typo, but this is the sort of error that will keep people from voting," Waldman said.</p></blockquote>
<p>when you see the GOP cry voter fraud, you think of Joe. </p>

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   <title>Leave Everything on the Road!</title>
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   <published>2008-10-15T16:45:29Z</published>
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   <summary>(crossposted from TCDem&apos;s Hole in the Wall) This is great. I have been thinking all along when people say don&apos;t get to excited yada yada yada. People don&apos;t get it this is a legitimate crisis, and people don&apos;t care about...</summary>
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<p>This is great. I have been thinking all along when people say don't get to excited yada yada yada. People don't get it this is a legitimate crisis, and people don't care about stupid things like character attacks during a real crisis, so this post over at Politico was a great read. </p>
<p>so what is it?</p>
<p>we <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Voting_for_Obama_anyway.html#comments">Ben Smith:</a><br />
</p><blockquote>just got an astounding email from a Republican consultant I know well. He's a guy who's always thought Obama had a "glass jaw," and was always among those agitating for hitting Obama harder.
<p>Recently, he conducted a focus group in an upper-Midwestern state, showing them the kind of ad he thought would work: A no-hold-bars attack , cut for an independent group, which hasn't aired.</p></blockquote>
<p>and the two of the best moments that put a smile on my face</p>
<p></p><blockquote>54 year-old white male, voted Kerry '04, Bush '00, Dole '96, hunter, Nascar fan...hard for Obama said: <b>"I'm gonna hate him the minute I vote for him. He's gonna be a bad president. But I won't ever vote for another god-damn Republican.</b> I want the government to take over all of Wall Street and bankers and the car companies and Wal-Mart run this county like we used to when Reagan was President."</blockquote>
<p>The Country understands how we got here and whose fault it is. Bush is still in the white house begging for $700 billion to stave off a great depression, hitting Obama a tax and spend reads real hollow right now.</p>
<p></p><blockquote><br />
The next was a woman, late 50s, Democrat but strongly pro-life. Loved B. and H. Clinton, loved Bush in 2000. <b>"Well, I don't know much about this terrorist group Barack used to be in with that Weather guy but I'm sick of paying for health insurance at work and that's why I'm supporting Barack."</b></blockquote>
<p>The issues man, thats what it comes back to, the GOP is only showing how out of touch they are every time they waste time trying for character attacks.</p>
<p>people do understand that the times are too important for the same old ways to dictate what happens this time. Distractions are not going to work. </p>
<p>you know say what you want about him but when <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/14/145949/96/160/630374">kos</a> says that this is our chance to break the backs of the GOP, he is right. We have the chance to completely send these guys out into the wilderness here guys. We have the chance to take control of the government with a real mandate for change. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/10/15/115413/30#commenttop">Jonathan</a> just pointed out the power we the base have given the party with our donations, guys this is it, this is the final push and we have to leave everything we got on the road here. We have to aim at as many seats as possible, we have to break their backs, and we have to bring real change. </p>
<p>so if you can, dig deep as you can, as kos says lets leave absolutely everything we can, every last inch of our will into making sure we win as much as we can. </p>
<p>dig deep and <a href="http://www.actblue.com/page/orangetoblue">donate to anyone of these deserving candidates</a> who need our help!, even if its $1 or $5 at the state level our dollars go even farther! we have seen what we have done with Obama, lets do what we can across the country!

and if you can't donate, volunteer even if all you can do is convince 1 family member to switch to Obama, guys EVERY little bit helps here.</p>]]>
      
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   <title>This is America?</title>
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   <published>2008-10-15T01:38:03Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-15T01:42:03Z</updated>
   
   <summary>(cross posted from TCDem&apos;s Hole in the Wall) U student to plead not guilty to terrorism charges A University student arrested preemptively before the Republican National Convention will be one of the first people prosecuted under a terrorism clause in...</summary>
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    <a href="http://www.mndaily.com/2008/10/12/u-student-plead-not-guilty-terrorism-charges">U student to plead not guilty to terrorism charges</a>
    A University student arrested preemptively before the Republican National Convention will be one of the first people prosecuted under a terrorism clause in the Minnesota Patriot Act since it was passed in 2002.

    Cultural studies junior Max Specktor is charged with conspiracy to riot in furtherance of terrorism.
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One of my biggest problems of the last 8 years, is this idea that we can't speak up against our government. What is the United States cept for a group of people who decided to challenge the way their rulers did things? 

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Civil disobedience, while illegal, can be traced back to the foundation of the United States and is very different from terrorism, Specktor said.

"[Civil disobedience is] consciously making a decision to disobey for a higher purpose," he said. "It's a time-honored tradition that we celebrate in our history books, the people in the civil rights era who sat in at the lunch counters and wouldn't get out of their seats." </blockquote>

Indeed, Mr. Specktor well said. but reading this reminded me of an post by <a href="http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9027">Paul Rosenberg</a> wrote over at open left on the discourse of terrorism in this country. 

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 First, is that while the term "terrorism" is a contested one, a key component that majority of experts agree on is that it is violence directed against civilian non-combatants.</blockquote>

Well that what it use to be. Its not even about whether or not they should be prosecuted. But after 9/11 to use the word terrorism here? by that standard, our founding fathers were also terrorists, ghandi would have been a terrorist, the civil rights movement, was a movement of terrorism.

That is what happens in this country when we are too lose with our words, and now we are calling people who decide to protest their government terrorists.

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