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Obama and the Culture of Elite Permissiveness


As I watch president Obama struggle with the tax problems of several of his appointees, I can't help but contrast their tax treatment with the way that the IRS handles the tax delinquencies of average Americans.  Senator Daschle failed to pay about $128,000 in taxes, and Secretary Geithner about $34,000, both pretty substantial sums.  When this was discovered, both paid the money back, with a bit of interest. 

I'm a psychologist, and I've treated two people thus far for major depression caused by being harassed to the ends of the earth by the IRS.  Both of these men (separate cases, they don't know each other) had very small businesses with a handful of employees, and were hard-working guys who took good care of their people, but were not as business-savvy as they should have been.  In both cases their businesses started doing poorly and they put all their money toward payroll, and therefore neglected to reserve the money that they were supposed to for business taxes.  When it came time to pay the quarterly taxes, they couldn't do it, and kept this up for a couple of years, instead of laying people off.  In both cases the amounts involved were not huge, less than $30,000. 

When the IRS discovered this, it assessed both of them penalties that were enormous, eventually growing, if you can believe this, to several hundred thousands of dollars, for each of these guys.  Both of them eventually paid off more than the original debt, but were still considered delinquent and constantly hounded.

Both, not surprisingly, developed major depression, at some point stopped responding to the IRS because of this, and therefore the IRS regarded them as recalcitrant and went after them even more energetically. One had most of his wages garnished, and has been unable to marry and start a family, and now is in his fifties, and is still paying.  The other had all his bank accounts seized, and was forced to live 'off the grid', working at menial, off-the-books jobs that paid very little, living with friends, and paying everything in cash.  He also developed drug problems, which he had never had previously.  Since he had no insurance, I also had to see him pro bono. 

Contrast this with Daschle and Geithner.  Senator Daschle failed to report tens of thousands of dollars in consulting income, for which 1099s are routinely provided and which absolutely everyone knows is income that must be reported.  Secretary Geithner failed to pay four years of certain taxes, and when the IRS caught the last two of those years, he paid those but not the first two.  In both cases, these prominent individuals simply asserted, very implausibly, that these omissions were totally unintentional, and the IRS accepted this and imposed no penalties.  

I have two reactions to this, one moral and the other intellectual.  My moral reaction is outrage.  This is just one more egregious example, among far too many, of the way that American society favors the well-off at the expense of all others.  The rules with the IRS about failure to pay taxes are that if you have no money then you have to pay a fortune in penalties, but if you already have a fortune then you pay no penalties.  I try not to let too much anger to creep into my posts, but sometimes that's very difficult.

My intellectual reaction is that this is obviously not an individual problem but a systemic one.  First, the IRS policy toward prominent tax delinquents clearly encourages such people to evade taxes.  Their response is that if you don't pay taxes and we catch you, then you have to pay what you would have anyway (the interest charged is about what the money could earn).  Therefore, evading taxes is a good idea.  You might get away with it, and if you don't, you really don't lose anything.  No wonder tax evasion is common with the elite, the IRS incentivizes it. 

 I'm glad that Obama has taken a stand against this kind of thing, I feel he was right to do that, but he's trying to impose rules of accountability on political and economic elites that are totally unaccustomed to that. The lack of accountability for these elites has gotten so bad that most have probably been corrupted to at least some degree by this environment.  In fact, Daschle and Geithner are good examples of this process because they're actually among the good guys.  If even the good guys routinely do this stuff, then Obama is going to have a tough time finding talent that's not tainted.



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Hi Tom, I feel the entire nation needs some therapy.

You get caught and then say, oops, my bad, will you take a personal check?

This is supposed to be the pattern of republicans.

And you are good to point out what the IRS can do to the small business owner. And you are discussing the civil end of the IRS.

It also has a criminal division. And it would be interesting to find statistics on how many people were sent to prison with fines over and above the normal interest and fines. Who went to prison and what exactly were their sins?

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Hi, DD. I agree. Obama has talked putting a lot of government information online. Statistics like the ones you suggest would be good ones to let the people see, especially broken down by income.

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I feel the entire nation needs some therapy.

I vote for TheraP. Our first Shrink General.

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Come on, dd. This has been a pattern for Americans for as long as I have been alive, not just republicans. The "elite" of both parties have been preying on the rest of us since the country was formed. If we want to fix the problems with this country, we need to be a little less polemic in our understanding of them.

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Oh Jason, I was being ironic. This is certainly not a problem attached to one party. And certainly not one class.

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Awesome. Just following my MO of trying to keep potential misunderstandings to a minimum. I am not sure most conservatives are all that great at irony, much less allusion. Illusion, on the other hand, is a weakness we all must fight.

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Here's the problem, Tom. If the IRS discovers it, the person is in deep doo-doo. But if someone amends taxes and pays the penalties, etc, then there is no further problem.

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By the way, Tom, I love your phrase: elite permissiveness.

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Thanks, Thera. Actually, I think that the IRS found Geithner's problem, at least the first two years.

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Yes, you're right. Sorry I forgot that.

Good to see you again, Tom. :)

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The key is that if you are well to do, you don't deal with it at all. Your attorneys and accountants handle it. The little guy doesn't know this. He makes all his own phone calls. Before he knows it, he's screwed and the bureaucrats love nothing better than to hound a person. They are "just doing their jobs".

Now, Bernie Madoff on the other hand can steal billions for years in broad daylight and that whole time the SEC knows about it, but he goes along unimpeded until it gets so out of hand it can no longer be ignored. Our system is rigged for some and against others. It is rigged for the rich and powerful and against everyone else.

For all his well known faults, John Edwards was right last year when he kept pointing out what all us little people know to begin with and that is that it's all fixed in advance. The system is rigged. It's time it got unrigged. While Obama's recognition of the problem is a good first step, I hope that as the new depression worsens, one of the things that occurs is that a whole new system will be initiated that holds the wealthy, powerful and well connected to account for once.

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I agree, oleeb. It disturbed me how little traction Edwards' argument got politically. People have really resented 'something for nothing' when it comes to poor people and welfare, but haven't until just now applied that same set of values to the wealthy and well-connected. But that certainly is changing, and i would like to see Obama be a little ahead of the curve with this change instead of a little bit behind it, which is where he still seems to me to be.

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Obama took a stand??!!!!

Even after it was revealed they were tax frauds and while the news actors on the MSM were trying unsuccessfully to whitewash it as 'minor oversights', Odumba's handlers had him stand by these criminals.

Only after growing public reaction did Odumba make any stand. Stand, HUH!!!!

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Hmmmm . . .

It's baaaaackkk . . .

~OGD~

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If you want to make legitimate arguments, perhaps ad hominem attacks aren't the most effective method of communications. I think criticism of Barack on this one is warranted, but using language that shows you to be a complete ideologue is hardly the way to go about it.

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"ad hominem attacks"?

We're talking about a powerful public official. And even if we were talking about your neighbor, I don't see any ad hominem attack in what I posted.

I don't see you get your panties in an uproar when all manner of viscous slander is directed at conservatives.

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Then you haven't been paying attention, because "Odumba" is an ad hominem attack.

If a principled conservative makes a principled argument, I am more than willing to go to bat for them, but I am not going to forgive what these "conservatives" have been doing in the name of conservatism these last 40+ years. So far, very few conservatives are as progressive as the party's roots require.

Again, taking Obama to task for things you are more than willing to let slide with a republican isn't being intellectually honest and won't help move this country were it needs to go in either the short- or long-term. Disappointment or a renewed sense of accountability moving forward is just fine, but this country is done if we don't quit treating politics like combat.

Cheers.

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Your story doesn't work for me.

If you pay delinquent taxes you're off the hook. If you don't, you're not. Once on the hook, dissing the IRS is not a good way to reach a settlement. Many settlements are reached (but I have no stats).

Obama taking a stand would have been him dropping G and D up front. He didn't, but some people in Congress sorta took a stand which led to D quitting and G getting a pass.

I can't speak to the stories you offer up. On the face of it, they sound tragic and the penalties sound obscene. The devil would be in the details....

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Hi, Tom, and thanks for the post. Back when I was 19 and my son was born, I qualified for the earned income tax credit. After I sent my paperwork in, I received very threatening letters and phone calls from the IRS. The letters demanded me to provide proof I was who I said I was and that they were gonna charge me interest on the money I owed and all that kinda fun stuff. Hell, at 19, I was terrified. Luckily for me, that year the IRS got into some trouble with fraud, and it was all over the news. I finally got my money after the news went public. This was in November (I had filed in February) and they payed me less interest on the money they owed me than they said they were gonna charge me for owing them.

I don't think these guys got the same treatment.

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Another great blog, Tom. Despite any errors on the part of your clients, that our tax system would exact such different penalties and enact such disparate (and draconian) procedures surely points to systemic issues that go far beyond the IRS.

We have a severe empathy deficit in this country that is made all the worse by having the coldest, most hard-hearted (and headed) Americans in charge of making and enforcing the rule. We elect the "elite" to run the system and all they do is game it for their own use. We then promptly go back to sleep with the hope that they will hold up their end of the bargain.

The story you tell is way more common than being part of the upper 1 percent who can afford to have accountants and attorneys on retainer to ensure their interests are protected. Not sure what Obama can do about it absent a massive revolt among the general electorate, right and left. Until a million people throw their tax forms into the Potomac on April 15th, nothing is likely to change.

Perhaps this very public example will be enough to start the conversation. All of our problems are interlinked in a Gordian Knot of unaccountable privilege, a false sense of noblesse oblige and profound voter apathy.

Not a good combination.

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Thanks for this, Tom. I suspect we're partway through a process of widening the circle of who we see as having done wrong - first from the worst individuals... then to wider groups, beginning to cross party lines & business sectors... to now, where we see the whole culture of elite permissiveness... and, I suspect, another step to come - where we see how all of us, to some degree, participated. How the role of money simply rose 'til everything else was in its shadow. The way 'homes' became 'real estate.' And work became a career, and then... something to end-run entirely, by getting rich & getting out.

As the circle widens, and the light shines deeper, it will take some sorting out. Weighing degrees of responsibility - because there are (before anyone shouts at me) VAST differences in level & kind that took place. But eventually, with luck, we can walk to a place where we can face all this & decide what we want to do, & who we want to become, without unfair scapegoating, without xenophobia, without violence.

Thanks for this contribution to widening the circle, and deepening our views.

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I believe that one of the remarkable problems with the IRS is their culture. Most American entities like the IRS have a culture that is closed off from many of us on the outside. So we are unable to see and be aware of it. The IRS culture is mean in their treatment of the American people. And when you end up owing taxes for any reason , wrong or right , you're treated as if you were knowingly wrong by them. And when one considers the oversight of the IRS by our government you have to conclude that they support this type of culture by the IRS.

Tom Hollenbachs' post is just another testimony to what I think is a problematic culture within the IRS. The IRS has too much power.

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I'd like to expand on this post a bit, if you don't mind. Regarding elite permissiveness:

Shouldn't every member of congress be thoroughly vetted each year? Not just a President's cabinet choices?

I suppose elections act as a thin layer of public vetting, but we have career politicians and those indiscretions add up over the years.

Here's an idea for a stimulus plan: create a public company that tracks and collects unpaid taxes specifically from members of government.

Every year, the amount of unpaid taxes, or back taxes, or amount due from tax evasion from members of government is then credited and divided evenly between all law-abiding U.S. citizens.

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