Anti-Obama Pastor Responds to The Daily Show (and to me!)
Last week, I wrote a diary on Daily Kos about the mid-show segment on The Daily Show's episode on February 24, 2009. The piece, titled "Unusual Suspect", involved separate interviews between correspondant Jason Jones and two prominent pastors, Rev. Daniel W. Blair and Rev. James David Manning. In their respective interviews, Rev. Blair compared President Obama to the Antichrist, and Rev. Manning likened Obama to Adolf Hitler. After submitting the diary to Daily Kos, I posted the same diary in Talking Points Memo (with video of the piece included).
What should I discover to my surprise that Rev. Blair himself responded to The Daily Show on my TPM blog.
Here is Rev. Blair's response on my diary, reprinted in full (bold mine):
Response to my interview on the Daily Show
If you have arrived here because of the unfortunate interview on the Daily Show then please take a moment and read my response. What you saw was over four hours of an interview sliced and diced (they called it editing) with a complete re-interpretation of my original statement for the cause of Christ.
I never said that President Obama was the Antichrist. I did say, however, that he has demonstrated some characteristics of the Antichrist (or the Beast) that will come upon the scene in the last days prior to Christ's Second Coming in glory.
The Bible was quoted that says the Beast would come out of the sea (Revelation 13:1) and then I gave the clear interpretation, which was deleted (or should I say edited) from my interview. This is a symbol that indicates that the Beast will arise at a time of great turbulence in the world, which will allow him to come as a savior for the world, promising them hope and change. It also indicates that he will come out of obscurity to arise suddenly to great prominence and authority. I have written in my book, Final Warning, published three years ago, "The Beast is the manifestation of the dragon (Satan) in worldly power. For the Beast to come out of the sea symbolizes that he is manifested at a time of great turbulence among the nations, at a time when the Christian Church loses its credibility and influence, and at a time when the nations have lost their moral anchor."
The Bible was quoted that the Beast (or the Antichrist) will resemble a leopard (Revelation 13:2) and then I gave the clear interpretation that this symbol indicates that he would be "swift" like a leopard. Again this was explained in length that the Antichrist (or Beast) would move very quickly to enact laws and pass legislation that would give him greater power over the masses. He would move so quickly that most people will not have time to understand what is taking place or the laws that are being enacted. He does this with polished rhetoric leading the world to just put their trust in him and his administration and not question his authority as he moves "swiftly" to change the direction of the nation and the world.
The Bible was quoted that the Beast (or the Antichrist) would have feet like a bear (Revelation 13:2) and then I gave the clear interpretation that this indicates that he will be crushing in his defeat. Again I explained in detail that the Antichrist (or the Beast) will reach out to the entire world to offer peace to anyone who unclenches his fist and for those who refuse they will be soundly defeated. He will attempt to be all things to all people. He will reach out to the believer and the unbeliever, the homosexual and the straight, the Christian and the Muslim in an attempt to grey the lines of intolerance and the exclusiveness of Christianity. I also wrote in my book, Final Warning, published three years ago "This further indicates that he is quick in his advance, crushing in his defeat, and bold in his decision to make war with anyone or any nation who stands in his way to build the Global City of man."
The Bible was quoted that the Beast (or the Antichrist) would have a mouth like a lion (Revelation 13:2) and then I gave the clear interpretation that this symbolizes his great authority among the nations. (See my book Final Warning). He will speak with boldness and clarity leading people to put their trust in him and his administration. Many of his social programs are designed to lead the world to put their trust in godless psychology and the addiction of prescription drugs instead of trusting in Christ alone who is their Wonderful Counselor and Healer.
Perhaps I should not be concerned that the Daily Show tried to make me look like an idiot, but I am saddened that the cause of Christ is damaged for their ratings. Furthermore, the whole point of the interview was entirely missed where I emphatically articulated that Obama is leading the entire population to trust in self and his ability to build the perfect society - "Yes we can." Whereas Jesus Christ is the only One who can bring peace and salvation to the world - "we can't, but He can." Anyone who leads you away from trusting in Christ Jesus exclusively is an Antichrist.
Posted by Rev. Daniel W. Blair
February 28, 2009 9:42 PM
First, before I reply to Rev. Blair's comments, I'd like to thank him for offering his opinions and taking the time to do so on my TPM blog. Second, I'd like to point out that, for the moment, Rev. Blair created a TPM account solely to respond to my diary, as he has not written anything else for them as of yet. In fact, he also created an account for the Huffington Post under the handle Daniel7 for the sole purpose of responding to Alex Leo's Feb. 25 column on the Daily Show segment.
I'd also like to draw attention to the lateness of our respective responses. The reverend's response to my diary was written on the evening of Saturday, Feb. 28. I, unfortunately, did not discover this response until just today, because my diary was originally published during the early morning of Feb. 25. I did not think to check it again until well after it had disappeared from the front pages of TPM.
Now, for my response to the reverend, and to each of the statements highlighted in bold above.
Rev. Blair,
You might not have said that Obama was the Antichrist, at least not in those exact words, but I suppose that all depends on what your definition of "was" is. You did, however, say that Obama shares qualities with the Antichrist by implying that his campaign messages of "hope" and "change" were symbols of the Beast. You then complain that the Daily Show cleverly disguised what you were really trying to say by careful editing and splicing of the interview. Whether they edited the interview to make you look worse is irrelevant. That you compared Obama to the Antichrist at all (not to mention your refusal to deny this claim) is what was offensive and, thus, fuel for Comedy Central.
I think it's also worth mentioning that I've checked out your blog, and on it you have questioned whether Obama is the Antichrist. In fact, on the very front page of your blog, you have an item about the Saints Against the Antichrist Rebellion (SATAR), a movement dedicated to turning people of faith into soldiers for Christ and eradicating what you consider to be anti-Christian messages. You call on other Christians to join this movement and download your latest book. And what do you have strategically placed in the SATAR box? That's right, a picture of Obama speaking to a large crowd in St. Louis during the Presidential campaign. If you still think the Daily Show somehow twisted your words or took them out of context, you are mistaken, and the proof is right there on your blog for everyone to see.
I also find it strange how you claim Obama is comparable to the Antichrist because he "moved very quickly to enact laws and pass legislation that would give him greater power over the masses," and that he uses "polished rhetoric" to "lead the world to just put their trust in him and his administration and not question his authority." It seems peculiar that you would speculate that President Obama might be the Antichrist because of his actions on the bailout bill, and because most Americans voted for his policies. Tell me, where were you excoriating George W. Bush for passing legislation that gave him greater power over the masses? You know, unwarranted wiretapping on Americans, illegal torture on prisoners, an expanded unitary executive, the ability to wage war on a country because it supposedly had weapons of mass destruction when it had none.....you remember those kinds of things? I seem to recall a lot of "polished rhetoric" during the past eight years about how Americans could not question George Bush's authority because we were fighting against terrorists in another country. Does that make, in your view, George Bush the Antichrist too?
You then continue to bash Obama as a man who will "grey the lines of intolerance and the exclusiveness of Christianity" by reaching out to people of different stripes and colors. First of all, I should point out, as Obama has done numerous times, that he himself is a Christian, but that's besides the point. If you are still confused about why many Americans watched that Daily Show segment and were shocked by your statements, it's for this reason: You treat both "intolerance" and "exclusivity" as though they are good things. I've heard a lot of Christian pastors who've said that atheists, Muslims and gay people are God's children and God loves them, but they are living in sin -- a deeply offensive and terrible thing to say, but that's at least a step up from what you said. I am now no longer surprised by your outrageous Obama-is-the-Antichrist message, and it's because you actually seem to believe that intolerance towards atheists, Muslims and gay people is good for society. Try running for public office yourself on the platform of demonizing every non-Christian in America (not just disagreeing or being condescending to them, but actively bringing forth hellfire and brimstone against them), and see how many people vote for you. But of course, Obama does the opposite thing by running on the messages of tolerance, respect for others, and problem-solving, and that somehow makes him the second coming of the Antichrist.
Finally, you criticize Obama's social programs as ones that will force "godless psychology" and painkillers on everyone. As I wrote in my previous diary, your "evidence" for this claim is that Obama's stimulus bill includes a "mental health provision that will ultimately give companies power over their employees by requiring that they get psychological counseling and drugs to improve their productivity." Reverend, there's nothing in the stimulus bill that requires any of this, and yes, I've checked. Plus, it is surprising how you would slam Obama as a President who would provide people with addictive prescription drugs when George Bush once signed a $400 billion piece of prescription drug legislation. But more than that, this statement of yours isn't just a criticism of items in the economic stimulus bill which don't exist; it seems to be a criticism of Obama's embracing of science and scientific principles to guide sound policy (or "godless psychology", as you call it). This, of course, is coming from the same reverend whose blog declares in a January 23, 2008 diary that global warming is a myth and that "we are foolish to think otherwise." I'm afraid the world's scientists and Obama would disagree with you there, as would most rational Americans.
Oh and furthermore, as somebody who once saw a psychologist twice a week for 11 years of my life as a way of battling some serious language and social problems of my own, I can tell you that I've done alright for myself -- graduated from a top-ranked college, got a master's degree in epidemiology, working for a company that produces those terrible, awful painkillers you decry, having a loving family and a wonderful girlfriend....yes, I think things are looking swell for the godless sinner in me. But what do I know? I'm just another heathen who voted for that crazy Antichrist Obama.....
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Cross-posted at Daily Kos












I hardly know what to say. Your response was perfect, only I hope you realize that people like "the good reverend" will not be able to comprehend your message.
There is no sense of morality in anything he has said, and you point this out over and over again. It is ironic that the very people who claim devine goodness are the most venal and dishonest in this world. They truly have no sense of right and wrong in moral terms.
Thank you for taking this on. You are obviously equipt to do it!
March 4, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. I sometimes wonder if it's a worthwhile exercise preaching to the choir (and that expression seems apt right about now).
March 4, 2009 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I read I was thinking I was going to respond to his comments because I thought I had something to add. I do not. Well said!
March 5, 2009 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a hateful, ugly man. I have to close my ears and avert my eyes because his damanged spirit is so strong. I am glad you are willing to respond to this creep.
March 4, 2009 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good work, you should feel honored to be singled out like that. What I love about this sect is that they claim to take the bible literally hence John's Apocalypse literally, but then:
"For the Beast to come out of the sea symbolizes that he is manifested at a time of great turbulence among the nations,"
or:
"The Bible was quoted that the Beast (or the Antichrist) would have feet like a bear (Revelation 13:2) and then I gave the clear interpretation that this indicates that he will be crushing in his defeat."
These literalists sure love deciding what's symbolic and what isn't.
March 4, 2009 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
A very intelligent response to a pathologically unintelligent bunch of blather. There is a real difference between worshiping God and worshiping a book written by human beings about God, and people like Blair are incapable of understanding that.
March 5, 2009 12:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
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As Granny used to say . . .
Nothing is more silly than a fellow "heathen" speaking the "truth" for God . . .
Granny also said about these false prophets: Hold on tight to your wallet.
~OGD~
March 5, 2009 2:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your granny was a smartie and your post brought a smile.
March 5, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure I can understand how a person who purports that the Bible is the literal word of God can talk so freely about its "symbolism". If the wording in the Bible is symbolism, then its not literal is it?
March 5, 2009 2:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, what they say is it's literal in core spots and symbolic in many other spots. Which is which is whatever's convenient.
March 5, 2009 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
It reminds of La Haye & Jenkins FICTIONAL novels that so many accept as happening as we speak. They are physically waiting for the rapture to come take them to glorious places.
March 5, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've heard an argument like that before; seems to me it was in a book by Lewis Carrol.
March 9, 2009 3:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Try running for public office yourself on the platform of demonizing every non-Christian in America (not just disagreeing or being condescending to them, but actively bringing forth hellfire and brimstone against them), and see how many people vote for you. But of course, Obama does the opposite thing by running on the messages of tolerance, respect for others, and problem-solving, and that somehow makes him the second coming of the Antichrist."
Sadly, in much of America that IMPROVES your electoral chances.
Forgive him, *the Reverand* since he knows not what he does.
If you asked that pastor which theologian initially posited these interpretations of the Book of Revelation, not only would he most likely never have heard of him - but I imagine he would believe that this is the self-evident meaning given to any who read the bible open to the Holy Spirit.
March 5, 2009 3:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your response was spot on. Thanks for posting.
March 5, 2009 8:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
First of all, the fact that your blog would be noticed at all tells us that what we are doing here is of vast importance. So let's all keep on keeping on. As it's getting noticed. And the need of the reverend to hedge his words sounds like your first blog hit home. Kudos on that! This blog only hammers your point home again!
Second, to the reverend, the Bible says: Judge not!
March 5, 2009 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I sent him the same message on the comment board of his blog. I wonder if he'll think to respond again?
March 5, 2009 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, they never think we could quote chapter and verse, do they?
Kudos for all your hard work here!
March 5, 2009 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so glad the minister cleared that up. hahahaahha
March 5, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Most excellent response to the dear reverend.
March 5, 2009 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
SBIXX - Nice response - thanks for posting.
Separation of state and religion is necessary for religious freedom, which ties in with our reasons for being a free country. Sky Pilots should respect that freedom, and allow freedom of government in return.
March 5, 2009 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Short version minus crazed rantings:
I did NOT compare Obama to the anti-Christ as 1. that would probably be slander and get me sued, or possibly (when taken with my crazed rantings) threatening which will get me on the secret service watch list, I said that he was/is/will be doing the work of the anti-Christ,acting in a similar way to what my crazed rantings suggest the anti-Christ would act, and implying that supporting Obama is LIKE supporting the anti-Christ. Goddamn secularist hippie's always misquoting good God fearing folk.
(Please note Rev. if your reading, I'm scared shitless of your God too) ;-)
March 5, 2009 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
At first when you wrote "Short version minus crazed rantings" I thought you were talking about me! Then I read the rest of your note and thought it was funny.
Egotistical of me, I know. I must have had a Rush Limbaugh moment.
March 5, 2009 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Before this disappears from the top of the list, thanks to the TPM community for giving my post so many recs (31 as of this writing)!
March 5, 2009 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, Superbowl, I forgive you for your avatar. Play on. We need you.
March 5, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha ha, thanks. I'll give some thought to changing it one day. :)
Just curious, do you just dislike football in general, or are you a Packers fan?
March 5, 2009 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Who are the Packers? (I'm not kidding.) It's really not even about football, per se, but rather feeling shamed by the whole "we're #1, USA, USA" sort of mentality that seems particularly prevalent in football. But do, correct me if I am wrong. (In the meantime, lose that avatar, OK?)
March 5, 2009 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I meant that last comment to be a reply to you, but the comment appears below.
March 5, 2009 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Packers are the Bears' rivals from Green Bay. Hence, why I talk smack about them.
As for your concerns.....are there problems with competitive U.S. sports organizations? Absolutely. Steroids and poor graduation rates among college athletes come to mind. And it's true that there are some jingoistic and ignorant idiots who watch and play football....but that's not necessarily a symptom of being a fan. There are jingoistic and ignorant people in any field. I grew up watching the Bears (and pretty much all Chicago sports teams) and fell in love with the sport. I follow it because it's not only great entertainment to me but because it's something for which I've carried great competitive interest since childhood.
March 5, 2009 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I concede. I confess; I am narrow-minded/tunnel-visioned re:sports. Apples to oranges. No denying that yours is a mighty brain. And that you are a strategist, par excellence. If those traits are borne of a lifelong affection for... what did you say -- the Packers? Oh, no, it was the other team, the whaddayacallthem..... well, then.....so be it.
March 5, 2009 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey,
I'm a little late, but I just wanted to write and tell you this was awesome.
It also makes me feel a little less crazy--back in October, the McCain camp released an ad that Josh posted here (still there) with comments about it's racial overtones.
I watched it and had a different take--to me it was painting Obama as AntiChrist. Though I felt a little paranoid at the time, I did decide to post my screen by screen walk through of the ad, complete with my own Revelations research. ;)
Just revisited it after seeing your post, and I'm amazed that Rev. Blair actually used some of the same Obama/AntiChrist parallels in his reply.
Wow. They really do believe this crap.
Thanks again!
March 6, 2009 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
As I read this, I can see both sides. For one, those who are Christians, those who devout their lives to Christ (I am one) believe in being saved and most study the Bible. Revelations is full of symbolism and many think that John could have been doing one of three things: 1. Warning Christians of the end of times, using symbolism as a way to broadcast the message. Christians were persecuted...you know, fed to the lions, burned at the stake, crucified, etc. 2. John was actually talking about Nero. I don't feel like explaining this one, so if you want to know more, look it up. or 3. John was going crazy. Delusions. If you are a Jew, Christian and I think even Muslim, then you believe the Bible is the word of God given to men. Christians believe the Bible to be the direct word of God and most do fear the end of times and want to lead the masses to Christ. Many scholars have decoded their intrepretation of the Bible. Whether you believe one sect of Christianity or another, you need to read it for yourself and make your own decision. I, as a Christ follower have made an educated decision, and feel that Obama does have some of the characteristics of the Anti-Christ. Does he fullfill them all? No. But, he does display many. I don't feel the need to broadcast my beliefs...if you want to know, I will share my thoughts and studies with you. I feel that God will bring you into my path and will show me the way to help. Why should that offend anyone on this panel? I hope I will spend eternity in heaven with Jesus. I pray that I have enough love in my heart for everyone, not just those who see the interpretations of the Bible as I do. Jesus loved the ones that fell from the rightous path. He was drawn to them. Why shouldn't we as Christians be tolerant and listen to those who need help...not condemn them. Oh...and to "lastquarter" the Left Behind series are just a glance as to what the end of times COULD be...not a definitive explanation. You should read a few...they are quite good.
March 8, 2009 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have one more comment...
If you do believe that Obama is the Anti-Christ, there is nothing you can do about it anyway. The events that lead to the end of days have been preset and there is really nothing anyone can do to change this. So if you believe or you don't does it really matter to anyone else but you? You have to decide for yourself.
March 9, 2009 8:44 AM | Reply | Permalink