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		    <title>Steve Roth Commented on Unions: An Effective Remedy for Insufficient Demand by Dean Baker</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The Earned Income Tax Credit is a far superior remedy--as is universal health care. Both achieve far superior distribution compared to unions, while increasing, rather than decreasing, labor market flexibility. </p>

<p>EITC also (Sandwichman, you listening?) provides incentive for people to work less because they can achieve a decent life without slaving long hours. </p>

<p>For single people EITC is alost nonexistent. Expanding it, and raising taxes to pay for it, will make us all more prosperous, and more equal. </p>

<p>(For some of the best analysis I've seen on EITC, see Lane Kenworthy's Egalitarian Capitalism.)</p>

<p>In general, the recipe for prosperity and stability seems to be a strong safety net/springboard (to maintain aggregate demand), combined with what many would consider to be a rather draconian approach to trade and labor issues (to maintain market efficiency). </p>

<p>The damaging effects of the latter are ameliorated by the benefits of the former.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Steve Roth Commented on Depression Economics: Normal Rules Don&apos;t Apply by Mark Thoma]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Is it really different now?</p>

<p>Isn't is possible that a certain amount of governmment spending--and associated redistributive policy--is <i>always</i> necessary for a modern, high-productivity society to thrive without crashing? </p>

<p>That it's the only way to maintain consumer demand (and indirectly, investment) given high and ever-more-rapidly rising productivity, and the associated, inevitable devaluation of labor?</p>

<p>That the difference now is a matter of degree, and catchup?</p>

<p>That the extraordinary amounts required now--like those doled out grudgingly starting in '32, and spectacularly in WWII--are compensating for insufficient amounts in the (in this case 28) years leading up to the crash?</p>

<p>Is it a coincidence that every modern, prosperous country of any size taxes and spends between 28% and 50% of GDP? (Korea is the one exception--a country I know exactly nothing about.)</p>

<p>That 28% is the U.S. (The EU15 taxes 40% on average and 32% or more in every country, with the same long-term growth in GDP per capita, and far higher stability). </p>

<p>Have we been tipping, or have we tipped, off the botto edge, by not providing the government spending (and taxing) that a modern economy requires? And are taking all those responsible countries with us?</p>

<p>Is it coincidental that the U.S. has been the epicenter of both of the aforementioned crashes, in both cases following periods where government, redistribution, and wages versus profits as a share of GDP were all at historical lows?</p>

<p>Is it a coincidence that all those prosperous countries have come to tax and spend at that high level?</p>

<p>Or is a darwinian explanation more convincing: that countries which fail to do so...don't become (or stay) prosperous?</p>]]>
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