A Time to Waterboard
Now that a guy has opened fire at the Holocaust Museum killing a security guard and another guy has killed an abortion doctor, one must wonder whether this is a sign of things to come. The latter says yes, it is, and he knows so.
The man accused of killing a high-profile abortion doctor said from his jail cell Sunday that similar violence was planned across the nation for as long as the procedure remained legal. When asked whether his statement was referring to another shooting, Roeder refused to elaborate. It was not clear whether Roeder knew of any impending violence. Law enforcement authorities said they did not know whether the threat was credible.
Maybe I'm crazy, but shouldn't we, as Americans, do everything in our power to keep the homeland safe. Dick Cheney says so:
From the beginning of the program, there was only one focused and all-important purpose. We sought, and we in fact obtained, specific information on terrorist plans. It is much closer to the truth that terrorists hate this country precisely because of the values we profess and seek to live by, not by some alleged failure to do so. Nor are terrorists or those who see them as victims exactly the best judges of America's moral standards, one way or the other.
Plus, according to the Bybee memo, it isn't really torture:
The waterboard, which inflicts no pain or actual harm whatsoever, does not, in our view, inflict "severe pain and suffering". Even if one were to parse the stature more "finely" to attempt to treat suffering as a distinct concept, the waterboard could not be said to inflict severe suffering. The waterboard is simply a controlled acute episode, lacking the connotation of a protracted period of time generally given to suffering.
So we can waterboard terrorists who we think may have information on future attacks, but we can't waterboard terrorists who openly admits knowledge of future attacks? Either waterboarding is a legal tool when used to keep the country safe from attack or it isn't.
At the very least can't we deprive Roeder and Von Brunn of sleep and rations? Maybe send them to Gitmo because our prisons can't handle them?
















There have been some who perceive this as a pro-torture post. It is not. Snark only on that point.
June 12, 2009 1:51 AM | Reply | Permalink