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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on Sources: White House Pushing Back Against Senate Public Option Opt Out Compromise by Brian Beutler</title>
		        
			<published>2009-10-23T20:31:30Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>If Obama eviscerates health reform just for Snowe's vote, he will never get another check from me.  </p>]]>
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			<published>2009-10-14T16:13:52Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Publicity is what these folks want. They will keep doing it as long as you and others report it. Why not try ignoring the run of the mill comments from Bachmann, Buchanan, etc?</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Theda Skocpol Commented on Alleged Fraudster Nemazee Poured Dollars Into Dems&apos; Coffers For Years by Justin Elliott]]></title>
		        
			<published>2009-09-21T23:26:07Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>He was the leader of those threatening the DNC with fund withdrawal during the primaries -- pressuring on behalf of bolstering Hillary Clinton's run at the nomination. He may have switched toward Obama after the primaries, but Nemazee was not with Obama from the start. Not at all.</p>]]>
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	<title>Theda Skocpol recommended Totally Random Fact by Josh Marshall</title>
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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on House GOP Seizes Political Opportunity In Floor Debate On Wilson Disapproval by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
			<published>2009-09-15T21:21:02Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Eric, This post is overblown.  Most Americans don't care about all this insider debate.  They will hear the vote happened -- and most think Wilson was wrong -- and we will all move on.  Certainly there is no particular enduring advantage in any of this, except to Wilson himself, because all the media pay so much attention to him.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on Clyburn Emerges As Lead Dem Against Joe Wilson by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
			<published>2009-09-15T21:00:35Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Clyburn should not have had to make a special personal effort on this -- and we should be careful not to fall into the pervasive contemporary tendency to personalize, or racialize, all important public issues. Rebuking Wilson for his outburst is, quite simply, a matter of the House standing by its own institutional rules. It is a collective issue, an institutional preservation matter.  I think the House should have acted almost immediately, and there is no sense in which a phone call to Obama's Chief of Staff meets the institutional need here.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Theda Skocpol Commented on Obama On Health Care Bill: &apos;I Own It&apos; by Ben Frumin]]></title>
		        
			<published>2009-09-13T23:27:12Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Pelosi's gender makes her easy to demonize -- which has happened in spades.  And even though I admire Obama and his operation in general, I have never been convinced that they take women very seriously in politics, at least not at the inner-strategy level.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Theda Skocpol Commented on Obama On Health Care Bill: &apos;I Own It&apos; by Ben Frumin]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You offer a sophisticated analysis and I hope you are right. The key, it seems to me, is a broad employer mandate, but doesn't the Senate Finance mishmash leave that out?  If a lot of meshing and compromising occurs at the end, it would be smart to keep a real employer mandate (with generous small business subsidies) both to raise revenue AND to motivate businesses to switch toward supporting government-sponsored cost containment, maybe even expansion of Medicare, in coming years.</p>

<p>The one part of your analysis I find mystifying: how can the Dems blame Republicans for blocking better reforms, when most of the coverage and popular perceptions say Democrats are in charge and fighting among themselves?  Credit and blame will matter going forward, but I think most citizens will blame Obama and the Dems for any shortfalls or unintended ill consequences.  Same is happening with the Stimulus.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I wish I were persuaded by this, but I am not. Obama can give a speech and turn a phrase, but he and his White House aides have been moving health care reforms steadily toward a model of purely subsidizing inefficient private insurance companies. They keep signalling compromise and are being rolled again and again.  They will, in the end, sacrifice cost controls, public option, adequate subsidies for lower middle class Americans, progressive taxation, all of what matters most in this -- and they will sign whatever is left for the symbolism of it. That is what I fear.</p>

<p>Amidst all the worry about racism, etc, I wonder if any other Democratic President elected with such effort and large margins would give away so much if the Speaker of the more liberal House were not a female.  Obama's people do not take women leaders seriously, I fear, and despite denials, they are "triangulating" against Democrats just like Clinton did.</p>

<p>I hope this is too pessimistic. But at stake is whether, at the most promising juncture in a generation, we are going to move away from federal-subsidies-for-the-wealthy style government toward building the shared interests of the middle class and the poor.  Obama talks good, but does not walk the walk.  He will therefore end up reinforcing the status quo.</p>

<p>If so, he WILL own the result -- and it won't be pretty politically for either him or the Democratic Party. Middle class Americans will punish a party that forces people to buy private insurance without enlarging choice and lowering prices.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>That is right. I just called his office to complain. We can find other MA Democrats to elect to the Senate if Capuano leads the waffle crew.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The Dee post is exactly right.  TPM is joining POLITICO in over-hyping unrepresentative things.  So far, at least, it looks as if the internet age in news is making the biases of the media toward pure hyped "controversies" worse, and this profoundly biases against progressive governance.  A large trend should never be posited or implied unless there is really strong evidence for that.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on Experts: Without Sufficient Subsidies, Health Care Reform Could Burden Millions by Brian Beutler</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is indeed the dilemma Democrats face: if they try to force people to buy costly insurance without adequate subsidies, they will create a sure backlash for themselves.  If they do not get everyone into the system, it cannot be reformed significantly.  The single most important reform issue is the size of the subsidies to lower-middle income Americans, and if these are not sufficient, there perhaps should be no legislation at all.</p>

<p>As an analyst, I now think that failure is likely here -- the tenth time in a hundred years.</p>

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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on How Progressives Should Weigh Compromises by Theda Skocpol</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Come on, read my post. I did not say a universal mandate to unregulated buy private insurance was a good idea, did I?  In fact, if I were advising progressive Dems in Congress, I would say do not give insurers the individual mandate if they do not agree to a robust public option. That ought to be the bargain.</p>

<p>I am critical of Obama to a considerable degree -- I wrote in the NY <br />
Times blog last week that he should have taken this forward himself many weeks ago.  But there is more to this overall battle than just-any-kind-of-public-option -- which was never as good an approach in my view as expanding Medicare would be (single payer expansion in other words).</p>]]>
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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on How Progressives Should Weigh Compromises by Theda Skocpol</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is a very thoughtful post and I do not disagree with much of it.  I agree, or at least hope, that a robust public option may still within reach, especially if they fall back on reconciliation.  </p>

<p>Still, you will have to admit, won't you, that neither the Dem leaders nor the Obama administration really want to go the reconciliation route (and they do not explain it well to regular Americans, either; they should call it "majority rule"!)  They may think they cannot fashion a reconcliliation approach that gets enough Democrats.  So my post is about how progressives should think about trade-offs if we do not get the ROBUST public option we want.  <br />
I believe that fixating on a weaker and weaker public option figleaf at the expense of the other goals would be a mistake.</p>

<p>As to regulation, I am a political scientist and I know all you say about DC ways.  It remains the case that, historically, there HAVE been instances of strong rather than weak/interest-riddled federal regulation. That is why I said we should push for a focused, simple regulatory regime with strong powers of data collection in the hands of the regulators.  It might evolve in better than usual directions, because the idea here, going forward, is to DIVIDE THE ELITES, to get business and government interested in cost containment after all Americans are somehow included, so that private insurance companies can be reined in.  That is not at all impossible -- and there is no scenario in any of the reforms now on the table where it would not be necessary from a progressive point of view.</p>

<p>Robust public option or no, the private insurance giants must be regulated. Competition alone will not do it.  They should also gradually be nibbled away by an expanding Medicare program (single payer).</p>]]>
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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on How Progressives Should Weigh Compromises by Theda Skocpol</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Well, some are fighting and other are surrendering. We need to push and support the fighters and perceive intelligently the full range of things they need to weigh.  We should not box the fighters into symbolic rather than substantive gains for progressives.   "The Democratic Party" is not a unified actor.</p>

<p>Just to be clear: I think, and have thought all along, that Obama as President should make a compelling case for a Medicare-like choice to be available to all Americans.  To be fair, he often has, and maybe he will again.  I wish he would explain it vividly and clearly in ways regular folks can understand.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Theda Skocpol Commented on How Progressives Should Weigh Compromises by Theda Skocpol</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Of course we should push back.  For a ROBUST public option and all the other things I listed. My post is arguing that we should not push only on just-any-weak public option. A weak one is worth less than other reforms.</p>

<p>It is not accurate to say that Republicans in power did not compromise. As extreme as their rhetoric is, and as much as they get/got, they did not get all they wanted in Congress -- for example, tax cuts for the rich without sunset clauses. The fact that they had to settle for some sunsets allows Obama to let some of these boondoggles "expire."</p>

<p>I agree with your frustration about the Democrats.  But the fact is this battle has been mishandled in the past four months, and the blame for that is widespread. Now we have to deal with where we are.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Sorry, her statement on the public option is totally meally-mouthed.  She is not signalling support for it.  She and others who are waffling must be put under pressure by Democrats if this is to happen.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Specter is making Obama look weak and ineffectual -- and I am sure I am only one of manhy, many Democrats who are completely turned off by the establishment old-boyism in all this.  It is as if Democratic positions on key issues that matter to the majority of Americans are irrlevant when photo ops for Obama and Specter come into play, or when buddy-buddy ties in the Senater are at stake.  This is a very disillusioning episode -- and I wonder if Obama and his people are aware of the downside for them.</p>

<p>The fact that Specter may come around after some consmetic maneuvers on EFCA does not soften this for me.  EFCA without public choice in health care is not that much progress.  And unions are beginning to look as if they are putting their organizational interests above the wellbeing of most Americans -- that is how it comes across when they meet with Specter and talk only about EFCA, not about public choide in health care.</p>

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		        <![CDATA[<p>This may make it HARDER for Pawlenty to obstruct Franken beyond a MNSC decision -- because obstruction would further endanger the Republican Party in a non-southern state.  Franken and the Dems need to keep the focus on what the people of MN need and want for their state: two senators decided by their own voters and courts.  Highlight the notion that Republican Party leaders in DC do NOT want what is best for Minnesota.</p>

<p>Also, it seems to me that national Republican leaders will have less sway with folks like Pawlenty, not more.  What do they actually have to offer?</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Theda Skocpol Commented on <![CDATA[Senate GOPers Cite <i>Bush v. Gore</i> For Possible Coleman Win]]&gt; by Eric Kleefeld]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, Eric, I think the media, with POLITICO in the lead, are over-hyping this angle.  The only sane motivation of the Coleman team in highlighting Bush v. Gore (a decision that associates them with Bush's presidency) is to intimidate the three MN judges. Maybe that will work, but I doubt it.  Those judges have been proceeding carefully, will ask for more votes to be counted -- probably resulting in the status quo or a stronger Franken lead -- and will produce a careful opinion that the MNSC will uphold.</p>

<p>It is just implausible that, after that, if Coleman chooses to continues to deploy himself as a national Republican delaying tactic, the Supreme Court USA will actually take this case.  Accepting such a case would immediately constitutionalize all discrepancies in counting interpretations across counties and states in the US -- involving the Court itself in adjudicating close elections from now on and in working out the messy details of standards for interpreting and tallying votes everywhere.  </p>

<p>Existing scholarship on Court decisions does show that political orientations of Justices matter, but also that Justices tend to act to protect the autonomy and legitimacy of their own branch.  Extending Bush v. Gore to all state elections would embroil and undermine the Court. Even the original authors of that very risky opinion knew this, which is why they said in plain text that the decision was not a precedent.  Now there is a new Chief Justice who would be dooming his own institution to perpetual politicization if he chose to -- what? -- play Mitch McConnell's game?  Why would he want to do that?</p>

<p>All the SCUSA has to do is dodge the case. They will, assuming Coleman even tries to go forward after the MNSC. It will all be over by mid-April.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Whatever McConnell may say, it just strikes me as utterly implausible that the U.S. Supreme Court will want to get into this after the Minnesota Supreme Court review.  What could be in it for the  <br />
SCUSA to get embroiled in recounting every close election in the land by constitutionalizing slight errors or inconsistencies across counties?  And how likely are even current conservative Justices apart from Scalia and Thomas to see Bush v. Gore as good for the legitimacy of their institution? Not likely.  They have an easy way to dodge this, because of the Senate's constitutional role.</p>

<p>Also, there was a decidely elegaic tone adopted in both Friedberg's closing and Coleman's post-court press conference today.  Friedberg almost sounded as if he was apologizing for a sloppy case, and Coleman kept talking about the good that would come out of this case in enfranchising more Minnesota voters, as proposed by both sides, "no matter who wins."  Ginsberg, the Republican hack and Bush v. Gore veteran, gave the national party line; but apart from him, it did not sound as if Coleman is spoiling to carry this further, turning himself into a yet-more-obvious tool of unpopular Congressional Republicans.  His fundraising cannot be good and he may care about his reputation in Minnesota.</p>

<p>I am willing to bet it will end fast after the Minnesota courts finish.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The Franken team's brief citing precedents addresses a lot of these issues well.  Even when an election was within three votes, with three illegal votes identified, the court in that instance refused to "allocate" votes speculatively because that would be an extraordinary usurpation in the face of uncertainty.  Calling for re-dos every time an election is close, on the grounds that mistakes are always made, would be an even more breathtaking step when state law does not envisage this, and judges rarely like to do that.  </p>

<p>Remember, while both sides have shown errors here, and there were no doubt some in earlier stages, neither side -- certainly not Coleman -- has presented any evidence as to how the votes would fall if corrected.  That just cannot be known for earlier stages, and the best that can be done now -- which the judges seem to see -- is to find as many legal votes not yet counted as possible and count them.</p>

<p>Everyone fears a repeat of 2000 in the Supreme Court, but it is doubtful that even the SCUSA would like to do that one again; all of those justices will go down in historical infamy for imposing a terrible president on the USA.  It gets even more dubious for them if they plunge into the minutiae of "equal protection" in every single close election in the land, arguing that errors always create uneven standards.  Why would the Supreme Court want to get drawn into re-doing every close election?  It would be a horror, and automatically delegitimating, for the Court. They will not do it, all the more because the Constitution assigns this sort of thing to the Senate (when a questioned Senate election is involved).  The Supreme Court knows that, and knows that MN runs election as well as any part of the USA, so the last thing they will do is take up this case on equal protection grounds.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>After a fairly mellow day yesterday among the lawyers in Court, the tone certainly did change today.  Big-name attornies sounding angry and making pettifogging points.  I guess this Coleman move helps to explain it. The jugdes also are about to make key rulings.  Let's hope they assert some control of the proceedings.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The key line in the Court order is that it is "irrelevant" to this contest if the counties interpreted MN election statutes somewhat differently before the election contest.  The three judges can easily articulate that position -- by pointing out that minor but consistent interpretations within counties are fair to all candidates -- and move this thing along. Let's hope they do so because, so far, the Coleman lawyers are clearly stalling and going over illegal or irrelevant ballots day in and day out. Within dozens more jurisdications to go, they can drag this out for many more weeks, and then turn to appeals that drag it out much further.  To anyone watching the proceedings, it is clear that is their aim.</p>]]>
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