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Evangelical Christians = Muslims


Why is it we shy away from confronting the single largest irony of this young century? 

To understand this irony, one has to understand that Islam regards the Quran as a continuation of the word of Allah (God in Arabic.) Allah gave the Old Testament to the Jewish prophets. The same Archangel Gabriel who foretold the birth of Jesus (Isa in the Quoran) and later dictated the Quran to the Prophet Muhammad. If you want to be quarrelsome, you can say that Muhammad plagiarized large chunks of the Bible. Muslims simply say the Quran was Allah's update of his earlier communications to the Jewish prophets and Christians. Muslim holy men often urge their followers to read the Bible to better understand the Quran. Yes! Amazing!

The Quran has its own version of the Garden found in Genesis. The story of Adam and his wife is virtually the same as in Genesis. (Eve is not named; Muslims call her Hawa.) When she was expelled from the Garden for eating the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge, Hawa became the literal, physical incarnation of shahwa (lust, sexual desire.) Shahwa is the emotion of Satan (aka Iblis.)  If women's shahwa is not controlled it leads to fitna (social chaos.) Women provoke men by flaunting their "ornaments" (boobs, behinds, crotches.) Muslim require women to wear veils and smothering costumes so as to control their shahwa. Used as slang, fitna means a beautiful woman.

The Quran has the story of Moses, Noah and the ark, Jonah and the whale, and other stories from the Bible.

The fear of sex dominates Islam. It likewise dominates the imagination of Evangelical Christians (pushing abstinence, railing against sin and licentiousness, pretending to be horrified at Janet Jackson's nipple, and so on).

Muslims want Sharia (Allah's law.)

Evangelical Christians push for Sharia-Lite (variants of God's law pushed by the Bush administration and conservative Republicans. No abortion. No studying evolution. And so on. These are less harsh demands, true, but it is a matter of degree, not kind. Let them have their way and see how quickly their demands would escalate.)

When a male Evangelical Christian zealot looks in the mirror, he sees a Muslim looking back; he is willfully blind to the beard.

When a female Evangelical Christian zealot looks in the mirror, she sees a Muslim woman looking back; she is willfully blind to the veil.

We all look the other way and pretend these are two separate religions. They are not. Islam is a continuation of the Christianity imagined by fundamentalist, born-again Evangelical Christians who take the Bible as the literal word of God and believe it is their duty to inflict "God's law" on the rest of us. Let's be honest here; their idea of divine law, is Sharia-Lite.

This friends, is the great, unacknowledged irony of our times.

You here on Talking Points Memo never talk about it, if you ever thought about it.

Evangelical Christians (fundamentalists, born-agains) are in fact, terrorists within.

No, no, no, you cry!

What about the Alfred T. Murrah building in Oklahoma City that Timothy McVeigh and his pal Terry Nichols flattened on April 19, 1995. Well, you say, that only killed 168 people and wounded 800. Hmmm. We lost 3000 people to Muslim fanatics on September 11, 2001.

McVeigh said he blew the building up out of retaliation for the burning of the Branch Dravidian compound of religious nut balls in Waco, Texas,, and because he thought the government was out to destroy all Branch Dravidians.

All jihad means is "struggle" on behalf of Allah.

Face it, McVeigh was waging jihad on behalf of God.

The cost of retaliating against Muslim zealots? Well, largely the destruction of our national honor and reputation, that's not to mention the lives and limbs of our soldiers, and maybe our entire economy.

The cost of doing little to fight the Evangelical jihadists in our midst? 

Ask the young women who wanted abortions only to learn that the Christian jihadist in the White House, following the dictates of "God's law" demanded by his supporters, was doing everything to block them.

Ask the mothers and wives of the soldiers brought back from Iraq in coffins.

Ask people of various illnesses whose future relief was possibly delayed by prohibitions against stem cell research.

We allow the terrorists within to push us around politically in their attempt to inflict Sharia-Lite on us. We stand mute, our collective thumb up our national anus, because we have been taught that we are supposed to "respect" religion, no matter what the religionists are doing to us.

I say enough already. They have shown no respect for those who believe differently than they do. Why don't we speak up and tell the truth:

Evangelical Christians equal Muslims.

Fun to watch them hop up and down and throw tantrums at that comparison. But maybe we need to do that to put the final rout to the Repukes.


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Wow. You have seriously zero idea of either Islam or Christianity. You are taking small, minority sects within the larger community and painting billions of people with the same brush. Just because zealots have dictated the conversation for these last three decades doesn't mean the whole narrative is what you see on TV.

fundamentalist, born-again Evangelical Christians
This person you describe doesn't exist. The description itself is full of inherent contradictions.

You have fundamentalist Christians (the Sarah Palin crowd) who believe the word of God to be literally found in the bible. They have been focused on punishing us sinners and have been a major influence on the Republican party for the past few decades. Our version of the Taliban. Submit or die.

You have born-again Evangelical Christians (Jimmy Carter and his crowd) who believe they have come to have a better understanding of what Jesus was all about. They are "born again" with a renewed commitment to continue his work on Earth by practicing the Golden Rule and looking to address social ills. To them, the bible is largely allegorical.

Then you have every Christian in between, many of who simply go to church to get a sense of community that has largely been killed by our Super Suburban lifestyles. Just as the Muslim community has varying degree of belief along their spectrum. These are both global religions with much more complex ecosystems than this post implies.

All I see here is a lack of understanding of both Islam and Christianity, but since I am not an adherent to either religion, so I will leave it up to their members to decide the level of fiction to attach to this lost.

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Well, gee, Jason, I did not take away that view at all from this post. Would you, perhaps, have been more comfortable if the title had been Evangelical (or Fundamentalist) Christian Zealots = Islamic Zealots? Because, from my experience, a zealot is a zealot regardless of religious affiliation. NickthePick is taking small, minority sects, setting them aside from the larger community, and then painting with the same brush. In my reading of his post I understood him to mean that and not that he was using broad strokes.

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The writer used Muslim and Evangelical throughout the piece as a synonym for crazy religious nuts. Not jihadist or fundamentalist or any of the other qualifiers that would indicate a focus on the small minority of the overall religious community who have these beliefs. I found the piece to perpetuate sterotypes rather than seek to dispell them.

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PS: Using precise language is of the utmost importance. Stillidealistic put it best on another post recently. We create an impression of intolerance when we use imprecise language to describe very specific evils.

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Okay. I see what you are getting at now. Yes, precision is important when defining focused groups and assigning them certain traits when they are part of a larger group. Point taken. :o)

Migwetch for directing me to Still's comment. I hope she can bring herself to do the post she mentioned.

I am not a Christian, or a Jew, or a Muslim, but I do have a set of spiritual laws and beliefs I follow and I pray everyday that I will be allowed to continue my chosen set of beliefs and not have another way dictated to me by one particular religious group.

The seperation of church and state is profoundly important to me.

This is why I wrote this particular post of Nickthe Pick's was cathartic, hoping perhaps, it would start a dialog. No one likes to be heckled for believing how they believe or for not believing, for that matter.

But, in the end, Jason, a zealot is a zealot is a zealot.

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Zeolotry is hardly confined to the religious among us. We find it in all sorts of areas.

I think the cure, as you hit upon, is dialogue conducted with as much empathy and humility as we can muster in a given situation. I have been as guilty as the next to have critiques go off-target by using tired language and old framing.

I suspect we are all here in an effort to combat the deafening silence from the last forty years.

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Interesting blog subject and viewpoint. Cathartic in a way. I find myself basically agreeing with you and I always like it when I'm taught a little something along the way.

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Jason, the link says 'File not found'... could you give a brief synopsis in lieu of, please? I would appreciate it.

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Strange bug. Somehow, the blog URL got appended to the link I left. Here it is again: The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh.

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Thanks for taking the trouble to link me to the article. I had read the Vanity Fair piece before, but I skimmed it again because it has been awhile.

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