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Zionism, Consensus and "Acceptable Behavior"


I understood Zionism from childhood as the argument that my father, Robert I Edenbaum, born in the Bronx and the grandson of immigrants from Eastern Europe, had more rights to land in Israel than someone whose family had lived there for 20 generations. No one I have met has ever countered that definition, and the logic then as now could only be defined as racist.

The same people who defend my father's right of return to a place he never left also make demographic arguments for denying the approximately three million Palestinian refugees the right to return to their Israeli land: arguments predicated on the need to maintain the racial integrity of the Jewish State and reminiscent of the rantings of various reactionary movements around the globe, with the difference that this example is defended as moral even by liberals who fight against the implementation of such policies on their own soil.

The simplicity and clarity of the above points and my impatience with those who see them as anything other than clear place me to my chagrin in the company of Noam Chomsky. Chomsky does not understand psychology -though he might say that he simply has no interest in it- while consciousness is, of course, defined by neurosis. For that reason alone I suppose I should be more willing to accept the arguments of those to whom zionism was fed with mothers' milk: not to accept them as abstract logic- as truth- but as the result of the logic of their lives. Perhaps I should be more forgiving, but I'm not. Maybe I'm just a Jewish exceptionalist.

Still, I'm not surprised by arguments over the meaning of excessive or comparable force, even though comparable force would mean the destruction of entire sections of Tel Aviv, hundreds of thousands of refugees forced from their homes over a matter of days, billions of dollars in losses and threats to bomb Israel back to the stone age made by those actually able to do it.

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On another more abstract note, it's a peculiarly American desire to turn everything into a question of "community,' as if somehow the opposite of a daily group hug is anarchy. I'm not particularly interested in most of the posters here, though the ramblings of the rank and file are consistently more interesting than those of the Poobahs. I'm not out to offend anyone but I'm not out to make friends either. As long as no one gets kicked in the teeth I prefer to let community take care of itself, and the concern for policing social niceties seems little more than another oddity of Americana.

Joe Lieberman in an act of rhetorical slight-of-hand and self-delusion has turned the American respect for courtesy into one for authority and from that into the defense of his own unctious self-importance. Chomsky and the rest of the liberal intellectual elite may all have no interest in psychology (though Chomsky is the only pundit who gives the defense of intellectual objectivity any weight) but that does nothing to deny what psychology brings to politics and daily life.

The people say Lieberman is a creep, and sometimes the people are right.


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I understood Zionism from childhood as the argument that my father, Robert I Edenbaum, born in the Bronx and the grandson of immigrants from Eastern Europe, had more rights to land in Israel than someone whose family had lived there for 20 generations. No one I have met has ever countered that definition, and the logic then as now could only be defined as racist.
The same people make demographic arguments for denying the approximately three million Palestinian refugees the right to return to their Israeli land, arguments predicated on the need to maintain the racial integrity of the Jewish State and reminiscent of the rantings of various reactionary movements around the globe, with the difference that this example is defended as moral by those who fight against the implementation of such policies on their own soil.

thank you so much for this very lucid and rationale comment. I too have failed to see the logic in the view your father expressed as anything other than culturally/ethnically biased.

You have answered the question that I have consistently asked this week which is what is the premise for the oft made assertion that Israel 'has a right to exist'  Many people emphatically state this and will not when asked engage in dialogue on what their reasoning is. It is simply their belief.  I found that disingenuous.

I too, repeatedly asked what about the moral right to exist for the 600K Palestinians who were made refugees for Israel and no one responds.

So thanks for providing clarity and affirming what I believe is the real truth:

It is wrong to use immoral means to attain moral ends (1948 resolution) and it is just as wrong to use moral means to preserve immoral ends (Israel's 'right to defend itself")

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I agree; that's an excellent parable for the problem. It certainly doesn't preclude people resettling in an area, but it doesn't allow the equivalent of eminent domain by a politically powerful group. Mind you, the latter still happens domestically for popular things such as sports stadiums, which I mention to show that long-term residents can get caught in many ways.

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Howard

*equal opportunity offense to both extremes*

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Thanks for the compliments.

I wonder If we'll get any more.

s.

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