George Will, lying again (re: Sotomayor)
George Will repeats two of the tendencies that have made the man such a pathetic hack in recent weeks: extensively quoting from a different columnist and essentially repeating his points, and outright lying about the positions of his opponents. Here's will today:
"[Stuart] Taylor has also noted this from a Sotomayor speech to a Hispanic group: "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn't lived that life." Says Taylor, "Imagine the reaction if someone had unearthed in 2005 a speech in which then-Judge Samuel Alito had asserted, for example: 'I would hope that a white male with the richness of his traditional American values would reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life' -- and had proceeded to speak of 'inherent physiological or cultural differences.'
Her ethnicity aside, Sotomayor is a conventional choice. The court will remain composed entirely of former appellate court judges. And like conventional liberals, she embraces identity politics, including the idea of categorical representation: A person is what his or her race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual preference is, and members of a particular category can be represented -- understood, empathized with -- only by persons of the same identity."
Thanks Will for repeating points better made by somebody else. The difference between George Will and Stuart Taylor is that I suspect the latter has actually read Sotomayor's speech where she made that controversial quote. Will either hasn't read it, or is deliberately misrepresenting it. If he had read it, he would have seen that Sotomayor says this about the ability of white people to understand people of the same identity:
"Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.
However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage."
Sotomayor almost word for word rejects the very claim that Will attributes to her. Again, I doubt that Will is intentionally distorting her views. My suspicion is that Will read that crappy Stuart Taylor article, and wrote an entire column essentially extending it's basic message two steps further, without ever going back to the source material and checking to see if he was doing any semblance of justice to the views of the Supreme Court nominee that he was trashing.
Why on earth is the Washington Post still publishing this trainwreck of a columnist?
















What you're saying is that Will is a Republican ;)
May 27, 2009 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Will puts up a straw man, then knocks him down, harrumphing all the way, like a character from Alice in Wonderland. This shows his fine education and breeding.
What a fraud!
May 27, 2009 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Washpo keeps publishing the creep because he SELLS. That is it in a nutshell.
And Wills deserves to be in a nutshell!!!
May 27, 2009 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about if we just make him a nutshell?
He's not ever worth being a nut!
May 27, 2009 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
ok then that makes him just a "shell" doesn't it?
Shill shell what the hell empty both just as well.
The empty plastic bottle has no heft a faded label is all that's left. Sticky ring in the bottom lies not fit for licks just for flies.
May 27, 2009 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really wish George Will would stick to Baseball.
May 27, 2009 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
George Will? Now there's someone lacking intellectual weight. Using words of more then three syllables does not make one an intellectual. It makes one a linguist. George Will has no keen insight into politics. He just uses big words. To the intellectual wannabes, that's brilliant. To the true intellectual, it is meaningless. Besides, everyone knows that intellectuals are found in the liberal elite. So until George comes around to a more empathetic point of view, he is NOT an intellectual, just a linguist.
May 27, 2009 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh he's not a linguist either. He just has a well thumbed thesaurus.
May 27, 2009 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
:-{)>
May 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gregor, I used to think the notion that an intellectual had to be liberal was bullpucky. I am coming around. It was a Babylonian (I think, likely wrong) who gave us this quote: without doubt, there can be no leaning. Will thinks he knows everything. He is sure of it. His mind is closed, shut down. Hence he is no intellectual.
May 27, 2009 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Sotomayor almost word for word rejects the very claim that Will attributes to her. Again, I doubt that Will is intentionally distorting her views. My suspicion is that Will read that crappy Stuart Taylor article, and wrote an entire column essentially extending it's basic message two steps further, without ever going back to the source material and checking to see..."
Oh, come on! You doubt Will is intentionally distorting? Where'd you get that?
It's the very reason he *didn't* check the source, so he could willfully dissemble and then claim he had a source for his disinformation.
May 27, 2009 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Sotomayor almost word for word rejects the very claim that Will attributes to her. Again, I doubt that Will is intentionally distorting her views. My suspicion is that Will read that crappy Stuart Taylor article, and wrote an entire column essentially extending it's basic message two steps further, without ever going back to the source material and checking to see..."
Oh, come on! You doubt Will is intentionally distorting? Where'd you get that?
It's the very reason he *didn't* check the source, so he could willfully dissemble and then claim he had a source for his disinformation. It's not weeks, he's being doing this manipulation game in open and notorious contempt for the truth for decades. Literally. Don't doubt yourself. This is his M.O. -- he is a sesquipedalianist propagandizer. You found the answer - so *don't read him.* Trust your observations.
May 27, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 27, 2009 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems that way to me too.
May 27, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thera, they love to project a phony gravitas that appeals to people who move their lips while they read. William Bennett is oh-so-very-sincere that it makes one want to puke.
May 27, 2009 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
If conservative ideas are so great, why do they have to lie and distort and use logical fallacies all the time to support them?
May 27, 2009 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If conservative ideas are so great, why do they have to lie and distort and use logical fallacies all the time to support them?"
Frog, you ask a terrific question. They routinely lie. If they are called on a lie they just keep on trucking. More lies.
Can anybody out there give a good answer why conservatives feel compelled to lie?
May 27, 2009 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. It's the first straussian principle. See here:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/therap/2009/05/who-is-leo-strauss-and-why-sho.php
May 27, 2009 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
@Overreach, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Even if they don't deserve it, it's better karma.
I'd bet any amount of money Will has never read the speech.
May 27, 2009 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not reading a speech that he was commenting on is not being a good commentator. Giving him the benefit of the doubt? I'd say you are giving him the acknowledgement that he is a hack!
May 27, 2009 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I buy your theory!
If he's gonna knock it down anyway, why bother to even read it? Pre-knocked!
Not ever the Will power to bother to read it!
May 27, 2009 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
accidentally posted when I intended to preview: Not "even"....
May 27, 2009 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez, Thera, I never make a mistake when I post. I am perfect. Whatever is the matter with you?
May 27, 2009 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Age maybe.... ;)
May 27, 2009 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will preaches to the choir. He almost doesn't matter.
Stuart Taylor is another matter. He has sufficient legal smarts ( he revived Ken Starr's case when it was running into the sands) , and intelligence to be quoted as if he were intellectually respectable whereas in effect he's a closeted member of Republican Opposition Research. Fair enough, but the media should identify him as such.
If so labelling him would be unprofessional they should at least provide the relevant factual describing that key role in the Impeachment.
May 27, 2009 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Georgie is a disgrace.
Always has been. He's particularly
lazy and stupid,even for a conservative
columnist.
Conservatives! Here is your "intellectual"!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
May 28, 2009 2:15 AM | Reply | Permalink