Alarm clock'd
Despotism loves alarm.
From the Reichstag fire so useful to the Nazis, to 9/11, in which a blameless country was sacrificed on the altar of our passions, we see outrages hijacked and used for purposes squarely adverse to proper responses - pursuit of justice, revelation of truth. Instead, crimes and sensational events can be refabricated with frightening facility to become weapons themselves. In the dazed aftermath of an astonishing atrocity, amid raging fear and anger, it's not difficult to whip up generalized frenzy and upheaval enough to install tyranny and assume control.
Oppression doesn't march in, crushing freedom with heavy boot-heels. It comes riding to the rescue - banners unfurled and bugles blaring. It offers refuge in storms of confusion, it promises safety from further attack. It has a friendly face and velvet gloves. The minions who help shred constitutions, torture anyone suspect, and dissolve the rule of law, do so because they're frightened, and because nothing can save them but order. In crises, they throw away everything they are - the better angels of their natures - because they are absolutely convinced it's the right thing to do.
In the past couple of weeks we've seen extremists attack and murder in the name of their aberrant beliefs; we have been repelled and we've railed at the injustice of their crimes.
And, in some case, we've overreacted.
In yesterday TPM, Josh Marshall asked (with link to a complementary story by Brian Beutler), in a brief post:
Does the Holocaust Museum shooting - and other recent events - vindicate that much-pilloried DHS report on right-wing extremist groups?
Well... does it?
Beutler cites the Department of Homeland Security report, prepared by a Bush appointee, as nothing short of prescient:
Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
Since the latest tragedies were the work of a radical anti-abortionist and an avowed racist, it would appear past criticism of the report - a three-ring circus of controversy mostly fueled by right-wing press and radio earlier this year - were wrongheaded if not downright suspicious.
But was it?
The report focused on groups that may serve as seed beds for radical right-wing violence and extremism, mentioning,
"The return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating in their communities could lead to potential emergence of terrorist group and lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."
Veterans' combat experience and expertise could be put to frightening use by those who see violence as an answer to problems that varied, according to the report, from perceptions that gun control - or outright gun confiscation - would befall a nation traditionally comfortable with packing (and unfortunately using) firearms; the election of an African-American president; and the longterm issue of illegal immigration and growing resentment against it.
But the report (this is from the Bush White House, remember) continuously harps on the economic downturn as a potential crucible of grievances - a meltdown melting pot that could focus and refine extremism from the Right, possibly turning mom-and-pop America into a Timothy-McVeigh nightmare.
The Left found itself defending the report against the usual gas-bags - Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and their ilk - and pointing out that an earlier DHS paper on leftwing terror didn't attract such crocodile tears.
But do these latest attacks really vindicate the DHS report? Surely, there have been violent acts by the radical Right before - in addition to McVeigh's astounding crime in Oklahoma City, there were the outrages of Robert Matthews and The Order in the 1980s; there have been isolated, lone-wolf attacks, as well, including the shooting at a Los Angeles Jewish community center a decade ago that left children on the wounded list.
My own objection to the DHS report, however, was that it's broad nature sanctioned "profiling" of groups not previously on anyone's terror list; remember, the report was prepared for law enforcement agencies across the country, and was meant for cops ranging from NYPD patrolmen to deputy sheriffs in backwoods Louisiana parishes.
Last night, MSNBC - especially Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow - led the drive to connect these latest shooters with groups sympathetic to their worldviews, anti-abortionists and an inch-wide, mile-deep paramilitary Right forever blaming, but rarely aiming. It was an unconvincing case, since American politics is like American suburbs - notable mostly for the multicultural nature of the groups and individuals attracted to issues in any given political fray.
Thus far, any conspiratorial participation in these crimes is suggested, not documented. It is, simply, guilt by association. In fact, it's all-but impossible to believe any group can maintain a public political profile in this country, and at the same time be party to these kinds of acts.
Without a doubt, the murder at the Holocaust Museum, and that of Dr. George Tiller several days ago, are deep tragedies. And they are symbolic in nature, if only because the perpetrators in each hideous act meant their atrocities to be considered such.
But until conspiracies surface - if they do - these remain isolated incidents, and not the stuff of world-bending crisis. We don't need crackdowns. We don't need a layer cake of counterintuitive laws.
Let's mourn. Let's investigate. Let's be watchful.
Let's not overreact. We've done far too much of that lately.













Overreact? You mean like rounding up innocent Muslims, shipping them to prison camps, torturing them, in some cases, murdering them, and holding them in "preventive detention" without any legal recourse for years and years?
That, to me, is overreacting.
And it isn't the intention of the DHS report you cite.
What's important is that we protect citizens from domestic terrorism at a time when attitudes of racism are so elevated.
We don't have to go to the middle east to find hate and extremism--let's face the fact that it exists from both the right and the left right here, and act rationally but with resolve to deter it.
June 11, 2009 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well... yes... that's exactly what I mean by "overreact".
And I'm not sure racist attitudes are elevated right now, any more than usual, as much as they're particularly apparent. Vicious crimes like those in Washington, D.C. and Wichita focus attention on wormy manifestoes and crawl-space worldviews. And that exhibitive moment is the best weapon to use against them. The vast balance of this country always has favored moderation and rationality, and is repelled by this tragic mindlessness.
June 11, 2009 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
that's a good distinction Curt, glad you made it-- that racist attitudes may be more apparent now, but not necessarily more elevated.
It has occurred to me that with the internet, I've become more exposed to racist attitudes and unhinged hate rants from millions across the country--many hide in anonymity, many don't.
It's an open free-flowing stream of consciousness.
But I think the effects of that open stream of consciousness may heighten racist attitudes, not just reflect them.
I'm just making an observation, not suggesting sanctions on free speech.
June 11, 2009 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Millions of extremists at these sites? I would need to see data to support that.
I would be surprised if those extreme right-wing sites gets thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, but certainly not millions. They would be much better funded with that sort of bandwidth.
They are loud and persistent, but thankfully not more numerous than any other fringe group.
June 12, 2009 8:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jason, I can't help thinking you're misreading tmpgary's comment. I didn't get the sense that he was talking about extremist web sites specifically. My sense is that he was talking about encountering "racist attitudes and unhinged hate rants" across the board, not just on extremist web sites. I've experienced the same thing, but whether or not it is "millions" or not, I can't count that high anyway. On the blog of my local newspaper, my estimate would be that about half the bloggers occasionally express really rotten racist ideas, often without being aware of their own racism, as well as other forms of hate speech. I suspect that can be extrapolated loosely on a nation wide scale, so "millions" doesn't strike me as an unreasonable figure.
June 12, 2009 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps. Even so, the implication is that "millions" of our fellow citizens are gun-toting, racist maniacs who are a nudge away from starting a second civil war.
That strikes me as a little overwrought. I would say each city probably has a handful of idiots who post over and over again while most people simply live their lives in blissful ignorance of just about everything.
June 12, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a good post Curt and it fits in with a blog by Billy today about right wing cabals.
I am sure there are FBI undercover investigations around the gun shows where many of these fanatics congregate.
I just get upset when beck says he will pay for the bullet that kills Michael Moore.
On another blog today there is a cite for a 1957 Supreme Court case that attempted to delineate 'speeach' from a 'call to action' so to speak.
June 11, 2009 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's tricky, the difference between advocating radical action and supporting extremist violence. There's never a clear, carved-in-granite definition. Maybe as long as it's being legally tweaked, it's vital and safe. Any of our Constitutional freedoms are as fragile as they are fundamental.
June 11, 2009 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I remember people freaking out just because Hillary mentioned Bobby Kennedy, and then again from a few of Palin's rallies. And then we lump together different types of attacks, of which there aren't so many to begin with. Is the murder of Tiller very similar to the Holocaust Museum shootings? Are either similar to the McVeigh bombing? At what point can we include Columbine, since it was carried out by a pissed off disaffected white guy? Only one of these was a vet returning home, which was one of the points of criticism about the report, von Brunn was a convict, Roeder is also believed to have been along with mentally ill... And getting upset about burning up kids at Waco is far different than being angry because they cut your social security check.
June 11, 2009 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd overreact to this, but frankly... I'm still recovering from my last panic attack.
I dare you to republish this tomorrow, Curt. By the gods, I'll give you one HELL of a scolding.
SHOCK! HORROR! ALARUM!
Get with the beat.
June 11, 2009 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your use of the term "Alarum" earns you 10 credit points toward winning your next post/comment confrontation. Good hunting, quinn!
June 11, 2009 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
My uncle, another artist,heh, always told me, "Miguel, If you're using an alarm clock to wake up, you're not getting enough sleep". He is a wise man, and my favorite uncle. F@#k the alarumistas!
June 11, 2009 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Miguel, (*sigh*) I have an alarm clock. It's crummy and battered - so the radio only picks up an '80s-oldies station here in L.A. I can't tell you how utterly ruined a day can be waking up to Laura Branigan's "Gloria".
June 12, 2009 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Glad you said it, Curt, so I didn't have to.
It amazes me how quickly thoughtful and intelligent people can go to grand conspiracies as an explanation for something that is frightening or confusing. That the trait is as prevalent on the left as it is on the right tells me this is a human failing rather than one of ideology.
There are some wacky people out there who commit crazy acts of violence and sometimes people die as a result. Given the number of weapons in this country in the possession of distraught citizens with overactive imaginations and a propensity for paranoia, a conspiracy of any reasonable size would have long since gone ballistic.
I wish we could just stop using rare incidents of any sort as a means of fashioning public policy. We need to start legislating for the mean rather than the extreme.
June 12, 2009 8:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
With respect, there is no point in starting any kind of legislation to curb extremist behavior because they do not adhere to any government mandates anyway.
These people are not radical right or radical left, they hold allegiance to neither side, they hold no allegiance to our government at all....they are not political in any way. They are self-ruled by hate alone.
Now, if you want to think that I am indulging in paranoid conspiracy theories, well, I can't stop you from thinking that. I'm not even going to try to convince you, or anyone else, that you are wrong. I live practically in their backyard, Jason, so I know different from you and most everyone at this librul site. I cannot see into the future so can't tell the world what the next crazy thing these people are going to do or when it will happen. I hope nothing happens. But, I'm not counting on something as slim as that hope
June 12, 2009 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am not saying we should legislate against these wack-jobs.
I am saying we should ignore them altogether until they stick their stick heads out their holes to do innocents harm. At that point we address it is as the criminal manner that it is, lock them up and throw away the key depending on the actual crime.
It seems paranoid to me to use the crazies in your backyard - no matter how numerous - as proof of their existing anywhere (much less everywhere) else in the same numbers.
I lived all over the country in many different locals and these guys are still a rarity as far as I can tell. I have family members who are even wider spread, many in the reddest of red states. There is certainly no proof that they number in the millions or are organized in any realistic way. Most appear to be cowards who hide behind shiny weapons they would never have the balls to use, else they would have already done something much bigger than what we have seen.
I think that fear as a response to any threat, real or imagined, is the exact opposite one that we need to have if common sense solutions are the end goal. Finally, using the term "these people" - no matter the subject at hand - means we are no longer discussing the issue rationally or logically.
June 12, 2009 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will refer you to this comment I made in NCSteve's recent blog.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/the_commenter_formerly_known_as_ncsteve/2009/06/how-many-more.php#comment-3494862
Who said they numbered in the millions? I don't know where that number is coming from. Doesn't matter how many there are...as it only takes one or two to cause damage. What I do know is there is enough of them to be concerned about.
Unlike you, I have not lived all over the country. I've only lived in one state, but I know this state well and I know the area I live in extremely well. For me to ignore these people is like painting a bullseye on my back. So, if it's all the same to you, I'm gonna keep on with my paranoid delusions. I feel safer that way.
As for common sense, it's so rare, I have no idea why they call it common.
June 12, 2009 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
They? Them? Those people? It sounds all so familiar to the last four decades of Us versus Them framing as a way to make an argument. We have plenty of laws on the books and law enforcement officials on the streets to implement them without getting overly worried about any one threat.
You admit to having very little experience beyond your little neck of the woods, yet don't see the apparent irony in thinking we should all be "concerned" about this phenomenon happening everywhere? A couple thousand angry rednecks with assault rifles aren't going to overthrown the United States. Hell, they couldn't even overthrow a single state let alone all fifty.
I would say the common-sense nature of reacting to an inherently fearful situation with dignity and aplomb would be self-evident, though I agree that the scarcity of common sense may make the appellation less obvious in this case.
June 12, 2009 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
You so do not know what you are talking about. Or, perhaps we are talking about two different things. That's probably the case. Because I don't recall saying anywhere that I believe these people will attempt to take over the entire damn country. That's silly. Even though I do rely heavily on law enforcement officials to keep abreast of the situation, I'll still feel safer being my own lookout, thanks anyway.
And, rednecks? Oh, that was charming. It takes little effort to sit in comfy chairs and type out backhanded insults, Jason.
It bothers you that I choose to refer to them as 'them', 'they', and 'those people'? Well, tough shit. They are my enemy. They are out to get people like me and I am speaking out about it. How am I any different from city dwellers that are afraid to sit on their front porches in the evening, or at anytime for that matter, for fear of becoming a victim in a drive by shooting? Are they paranoid delusionals, too? Should we just pay no attention to the gangbangers strolling down the sidewalk past the houses? Chances are pretty good they aren't out delivering food baskets to the elderly.
Now, if you wish to go on with more long comments that go 'round and 'round denigrating my point of view, then have at me. However, I will not be around to read them or respond for a few days. I am heading out of my minuscule neck of the woods for the weekend to attend a wedding in a big bad ass city. Ooooooh...I'm askeert. But not really.
June 12, 2009 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice little backhanded insult yourself. "City dwellers that are afraid to sit out on their front porch" is it? When was the last time you were in a city? I never even knew my neighbors until I moved into the city.
I feel far safer in the city than I do in the country, but in neither case am I looking over my shoulders as someone is out to get me. Awareness of my surroundings? Sure. All the time. Paranoia? Not in this life.
I still say that the whole way you speak about this topic seems overwrought and will have collateral damage as you apply those prejudiced associations to more and more people, with or without merit. It is the very definition of a witch hunt and is hardly in keeping with your stated ideals of liberalism let along your moniker. When did the flower children start talking in terms of war and enemies?
I was hoping to provide a point of view other than the one you brought in with you. I wasn't trying to denigrate your opinions. Only to show you how they may come across to people who don't necessarily see things your way. It sounds frighteningly like the paranoid hyperbole we came to expect from the neoclowns who have been running the republican party for so long.
I am sorry if my impression of your writing feels like condemnation because it certainly isn't meant to be taken that way. I am merely offering my opinion as one of many in support of this blogs main premise, which your comments seem to reflect the need for it to have been written in the first place.
June 12, 2009 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, let's get the name thing taken care of because this isn't the first time my moniker has been used to define me to the exclusion of everything else I am and it's kinda starting to tick me off. "Flower child" is an informal noun, but "flowerchild" is the literal English translation of Wahbigwanahbenooje, the Annishinaabek name gifted to me over thirty years ago by an Elder. It's not the only name I was given, there are others, but it is the one I prefer. And I spell it with a lowercase f and a couple of tildes because I feel like it.
What does the above rebuttal to one of your points have to do with the original post or my original reply to your comment? Nothing.
Second, you consider "city dwellers" a backhanded insult? I don't get that one, Jason. What else would you call people who dwell in the city?
What does the above paragraph have to do with the original post or my original reply to your comment? Nothing.
Third...about the last time I was in a city. If you take a moment to reread the last half of the last paragraph of my last comment to you, you will know exactly when I was last in a city.
What does the above paragraph have to do with the original post or my original reply to your comment? Nothing.
Before tossing out red herrings, trying to divert the discussion, you might have taken a moment to recall from my comments elsewhere that I spent most of the first 30 odd years of my life in and around Flint, MI. I reckon I know a bit about city dwellers having dwelt as one. But, you did not know this. Apparently, you did not think prior comments of mine worthy of your attention and did not read them. Except that you have, because you have responded to them.
What does the above paragraph have to do with the original post or my original reply to your comment? Nothing.
Therefore, I can only assume that you were manufacturing an argument against the comment I made in order to overrun the opinion I was expressing with your own opinion. In fact, you tried to run my opinion over more than once.
There, now I have spent all this time and typewriter ribbon deflecting your useless points. And I still think you don't know what you are talking about....or at the very least you are seeing it from behind your own eyes only. The world's yer oyster when you're a white male perceived to be Christian and you can afford to be magnanimous with your consideration of the 'different' among us.
But, when you are not white, when you are not a man, when you are not a Christian, when you are everything they fear and hate personified, you are fair game to these people. Ignoring them is deadly for people like me. But, don't worry, Jason ....you're safe....dignity and aplomb will protect you as long as they are lined with kevlar.
June 14, 2009 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
A very long way to basically say shut the fuck up if you don't agree with me. Roger. Got the message. Of course, you are wrong and continue to paint with braod strokes and hyperbolic paranoia that has no relationship with reality.
By the way, the way you describe is city dwellers is what was prejudiced and without knowledge of actual city dwelling. It was in the same vein as you taking offense at me describing the people you are so worried about as rednecks.
So, you want to be scared of "them" and keep your every-watchful eye out for some unspecified threat - that is surely just around the corner and has been for decades since none of these "groups" of idiots is new - go right ahead. Forgive me if I don't go along with the witch hunt - apparently of white male Christians this time - and also please forgive the eye I will be keeping on you.
PS: You have claimed to be an old school, Boomer activist of which the moniker flowerchild will automatically suggest certain traits. One of which is being liberal. The way you are discussing this issue is anything but a liberal mindset. I can't help it if your words are in contrast to your stated ideals.
June 14, 2009 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Flowerchild, it's impossible to doubt the danger posed by armed extremists - given the events of the past few weeks. The point of my post is the shape and degree of response to it. If there are to be measures to protect society from individuals who, at least in Brunn's case, seem to be informed mostly by their own personal demons, what should these counteractives look like? How severe, or far-reaching, should they be? Or... would enhanced laws and new security formulas be an overreaction to a phenomenon which no laws, no governments, ever can hope to control? To me, right now, it seems the best idea is to contain responsibility and blame as much as possible. We can easily conflate these tragedies with organized right-wing violence. But how organized is it, really?
June 12, 2009 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
billy shake had a good blog about this that just fell off the rotation, SFCurt. And if I had the time I would find the DHS report on the examination of extremists. In it somewhere is referenced the 'loose organization' of these groups. They've discovered the internet along with the rest of us. I would get more in depth, but I'm pushing the clock.
By the by...I did appreciate your blog, although I did not agree with most of it. Have a great weekend!
June 12, 2009 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jason! I didn't recognize you without mustache, pince-nez and "San Juan Hill" gleam in your eye!
You're right, although I'd assert turning fringe nut-log ideology into national crises is also a trait of the Right. It's a universal - and inaccurate - way of framing the opposition in the worst terms possible.
This country always has a fringe, covering all sides of the political spectrum. (I use "all", since some of these groups defy categorization of left and right.) Since most of them are unconnected to violence in either act or advocacy, they are an affirmation of the tolerance and openness demanded of any democracy.
June 12, 2009 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I figured it was time to try a different face, so why not my own?
Both the left and right have used the other side's fringe movements to justify whatever Draconian policies they "must" institute for our own good. I think fringe ideology is good for both parties for varying reasons but bad for us all in fundamental ways. I also think it is a learned trait, though certainly a human one in the manner with which we practice it.
I think that the liberal TPM audience is as good a place as any to remind Americans of the benefits of practicing actual democracy instead of partisan fiat supported by a rabid grassroots incapable of grasping nuance or reasonable compromise.
June 12, 2009 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is a very good post and equally good discussion. No need to have a new raft of bad laws passed based on random incidents.
That being said we do have a problem with many on the far right and some on the far left who are so passionate about their beliefs that they become unhinged and resort to violence to lash out at the perceived doers, in their minds only, of the injustice. I say this because I feel many people on the net and some in the media, mostly from the political right, are inciting the already unhinged. I listen to what Limbaugh, Maklin, Beck, at al have to say and cringe. It strikes me as them blowing a dog whistle trying to drive the loonies into a frenzy. I don't know what if anything can be done about it but that is what this strikes me about all of this...
June 12, 2009 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
They may very well be trying to egg on the nut-logs, Libertine. Question is, what do we do about it? How can we walk that narrow line between adequately responding to this volcanic rabble-rousing - and corroding our common rights and freedoms? Some really bad ideas have been proffered in the wake of this violence.
June 12, 2009 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've got to say, Kurt, that you write really well - it's a pleasure to read your blogs.
This is very good material to use to study how ideas circulate in culture. I'm sure most of us notice the iterated and reiterated themes - almost aphorisms - that circumscribe forms of hate speech...well, most political speech for that matter. I think it's like airline hijacking - there was a time when it was unheard of, then someone hijacked an airplane, and it was followed by a rash of hijackings, and eventually subsided. What I'm getting at is that mass media culture can function as mediator between something that has not been imagined and something that takes on the aura of the commonplace. Other copy-cat crimes follow this example.
An idea is circulated, and implants in the consciousness of people who might never have realized otherwise that, say, an act of terror could be justified by virtue of a political or social conviction. How about the lynch mob? Isn't it the incredible intensity of the collective pathology of the mob that pushes otherwise stable people over the edge toward violent solutions to probems?
Ah, heck, I studied comic books in grad school...the definition of "superhero" is a figure that solves problems with violence. Even the great egalitarian Popeye to Sailor succumbed to the magic substance that gave him supernatural powers of violence. So let's just own up and confess that violence is deeply seated in American culture, and ponder what sets of circumstances must prevail to unleash this destructive power.
Because of that, I believe that the Rx has to be in developing resistance to incipient forces - socialization. That means language and circulating ideas - such as we are doing here.
June 12, 2009 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink