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		    <title>rubegreenhorn Commented on Women Sealed the Deal by Ruth Rosen</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-11T09:17:13Z</published>
			   <updated>2008-11-11T09:17:13Z</updated>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I find all of these articles assigning the winning margin to a given group (women, Hispanics, independents, NASCAR dads, whomever) to be mathematically unconvincing.  </p>

<p>To an extent, if turnout surges among Group A, then one could anoint them as the saviors of the campaign, but if members of Group B and C had turned out in less #s, then the election would have been lost.</p>

<p>In the end, it's the collectivity of votes that make a difference.  One could just as well argue that it's the improvement in white men voting for Obama (v. Kerry's #s) that made the difference.  </p>

<p>I do think there are plenty of reasons to target voters and celebrate their contribution, but mathematically, the argument for women (or any other group) really doesn't make sense to me.  If any group voted less often for Obama, it could have undone the whole thing.</p>]]>
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		    <title>rubegreenhorn Commented on Virginia House GOPer Loses In Upset by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-05T09:03:32Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>On Al Toad's Wild Ride as well.  I think our curly headed friend is going to win it.  Hot Diggity Dog!</p>]]>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Yielding the Floor by David Kurtz</title>
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  <published>2008-10-25T14:03:15Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-25T16:16:56Z</updated>
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		    <title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn Commented on <![CDATA[Bachmann Challenger Raises Big Bucks Since Her <i>Hardball</i> Appearance]]&gt; by Eric Kleefeld]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-10-20T04:37:07Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Oy Vey!  I knew she reminded me of someone....You nailed it!</p>]]>
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	<title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn recommended McCain&apos;s Gambit by Josh Marshall]]></title>
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  <published>2008-10-19T00:54:04Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-19T01:30:19Z</updated>
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		    <title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn Commented on <![CDATA[<img src="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/hebert-muck.jpg" vspace=5 hspace=5 align=left>Ex DOJ Voting Rights Chief: "It's Going to Take a Long Time to Cleanse" Department]]&gt; by Zachary Roth]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-10-18T04:55:38Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You're about as convincing a lawyer as Joe the Plumber is as a "independent" businessman who will plumb himself into a 250K income.  </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn Commented on <![CDATA[<img src="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/hebert-muck.jpg" vspace=5 hspace=5 align=left>Ex DOJ Voting Rights Chief: "It's Going to Take a Long Time to Cleanse" Department]]&gt; by Zachary Roth]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-10-18T04:52:11Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>You're about as convincing a lawyer as Joe the Plumber is as a "independent" businessman who will plumb himself into a 250K income.</p>]]>
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	<title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn recommended Ex DOJ Voting Rights Chief: &quot;It&apos;s Going to Take a Long Time to Cleanse&quot; Department by Zachary Roth]]></title>
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  <published>2008-10-17T21:34:48Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-30T14:03:10Z</updated>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Returning to the Scene of the Crime by Josh Marshall</title>
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  <published>2008-10-16T18:45:38Z</published>
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		    <title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn Commented on Is It Over? Debate Reveals That Dynamic Of Race Is Fixed In Obama&apos;s Favor by Greg Sargent]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-10-16T05:30:55Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"Women's health" as a cheap Democratic ruse--yeah, that was the thing that most jumped out at me.  It was McCain at his worst, I thought.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn Commented on Debate (foot in mouth):  McCain sneers at &quot;Women&apos;s Health&quot;  by rubegreenhorn]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-10-16T02:56:50Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Ah, just noted that Josh flagged this on debate #4 thread.  Good to know that I'm not alone on that one.  It's a nice touch of McCain at his worst.</p>]]>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Last Chance Debate Blogging #4 by Josh Marshall</title>
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  <published>2008-10-16T02:26:24Z</published>
   <updated>2008-10-16T03:58:46Z</updated>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Dangerous Distractions:  Fannie, Freddie and Community Reinvestment by kgoff74</title>
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  <published>2008-10-12T20:05:20Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Biden Kills Among OH Women by Mike Drew</title>
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  <published>2008-10-03T06:00:53Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Palin reading answers??? by observer2</title>
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  <published>2008-10-03T02:09:36Z</published>
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	<title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn recommended New Obama Ad In South Stars Bluegrass Legend Saying Obama Is &quot;A Good Man&quot; by Greg Sargent]]></title>
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  <published>2008-10-02T16:36:30Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Hot off the PRESSES, Sarah Palin has no idea who HAMAS is.  DISQUALIFIED by sgwhiteinfla</title>
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  <published>2008-10-01T17:07:51Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Planned Parenthood Ad Blasts Palin For Rape-Kit Policies by Eric Kleefeld</title>
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  <published>2008-10-01T14:31:04Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Did You Hear the One About Palin Listening to Biden Speeches Since She was 7! by tonnyb</title>
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  <published>2008-09-30T22:34:25Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Killer Comeback? by Subliminability</title>
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  <published>2008-09-26T05:25:25Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended No One Believes Henry Paulson by Dean Baker</title>
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  <published>2008-09-22T03:41:24Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Where’s the Democratic plan? by Mark Paul</title>
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  <published>2008-09-22T04:14:10Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended I wish Republicans would stop following me around by msi</title>
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  <published>2008-09-17T15:22:13Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Foggo Indictment Chilling by mac2151</title>
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  <published>2008-09-17T18:32:59Z</published>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Remember Social Security Privatization? by sleon</title>
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  <published>2008-09-18T02:11:41Z</published>
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	<title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn recommended Edward O&apos;Callaghan (Palin&apos;s troopergate pitbull) by anon2008]]></title>
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	<title>rubegreenhorn recommended Level the Playing Field by David Kurtz</title>
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  <published>2008-09-17T16:12:24Z</published>
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	<title><![CDATA[rubegreenhorn recommended Let&apos;s see Palin&apos;s 1040 by rsl]]></title>
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  <published>2008-09-16T12:40:38Z</published>
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