Blind Justice? The Argument Over Judge Sotomayor
The argument goes that because Judge Sotomayor is Latina, and has spoken as a Latina, that she is "biased" (with strident claims that she is "racist") and therefore that she is influenced by "identity politics." The argument then goes on to say state that justice is "blind" and "color-blind" so the personal background of a judge does not matter. This then circles back around to Sotomayor's "race" (sic meaning ethnicity) and that because she claims her Puerto Rican and Latina heritage that she engages in "identity politics." And it goes on and on, round and round like some Tommy two note.
The implication of the claims of identity politics and their inherent racism is that white males are inherently more neutral and objective. They are purportedly reasoned individuals who can interpret the law fairly. It seems a waste of time to argue the embedded racism and sexism of such a base assumption.
Also implied, is that this argument of inherent "fairness" is affirmed by the fact that 106 of 110 Supreme Court Justices have been white males. Under this argument, there is not only no reason for "diversity" to be an issue on the Supreme Court, but by extension, it is not an issue anywhere within United States. This is not a conceptual leap on my part as one of the major issues among the "conservatives" is the issue of "affirmative action." This will certainly be a line of questioning in Judge Sotomayor's confirmation hearings.
However, (at least) two current Supreme Court justices would not have been seen as "white" all that long ago. Southern and Eastern European immigrants were restricted as being "undesirable" under the 1924 Johnson-Reed Act. Not to mention, that being Catholic was long a point of fear and discrimination in the United States. Alito in particular brought up his immigrant origins and how that shapes him during his confirmation hearings. However, I heard no claims of identity politics surrounding discussions of his ability to be "fair" or administer justice "blindly."
Justices Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Scalia, and Alito are all Catholic. Alito clearly has ties to Opus Dei, and there is strong speculation that Scalia and Thomas do as well. Yet, I do not recall questions about their religion, or ties to this conservative Catholic organization coming up in regard to their roles as justices, or potential justices, to the Supreme Court. (Breyer and Ginsburg are Jewish, Souter is Episcopalian, and Stevens is Protestant - source)
Both Roberts and Alito are strong supporters of the theory of the President of the United States as a Unitary Executive. This is a theory has vast implications for the operation of our form of government. Yet, there they sit.
So where does the line of "identity politics" get drawn, and who gets perceived as "biased?" What about the issue of ideology politics and the Court? If one embraces an ideology of "right to life," or that all political power rests within the Presidency, or that corporations naturally trump people and workers, does that count as "bias," or just a "simple difference of opinion?" Can (and do) those Justices holding deep set ideologies put these aside in their interpretation of the law and the cases that come before them?
How about just simple conflict of interest? For example Scalia's involvement with Bush/Cheney and the SCOTUS deciding to block any further challenges to Florida's vote in the 2000 election?
Ah yes, inherently fair and unbiased indeed. The issue of potential bias seems to only arise if one is not a white male. If that does not throw a flag for folks about how racism and sexism are coded into the debate, then I do not know what would.
"Blind" Justice
On to the "blindness" of justice. This is embodied, and alluded to, in the ongoing circular argument, in the statue of Lady Justice. She stands holding scales and a sword, and is blindfolded (she was also "draped" by Ashcroft because he thought the statue indecent). I have now heard numerous times that Lady Justice embodies the "western tradition of justice."
Regardless, the issue of "blindness," and therefore "fairness," is a central question for all of us. What is morphed within the "debate" across the board is how one's status impacts one's "blindness."
Blindness in this context is an interesting concept. Does it mean that one does not acknowledge the impact of differences, or that they do not exist? Does it mean that the law, and decisions of the Courts, are applied regardless of status of the litigants? Does it mean that one should ignore that the impact of legal judgements which may actually advantage some while disadvantaging others - in other words, the outcome of the legal decision is "not fair."
Should there be an acknowledgement that this society has been, and continues to be, embedded with inequality based upon a number of group statuses (sex, race, orientation, age, ethnicity, social class, ability, etc.)? Further, that these statuses are experienced by individuals, but that they are applied to the entire status group? Further, that this structuring privileges some groups while disprivileging other groups, and is often reflected in the embedded biases not just of the society, but of the laws? And even further still, that living through these various structurings actually presents individuals and the groups to which they belong with different experiences of reality?
Let me offer you a non-legal example. Pundits. and social service planners came up with the idea of replacing the foodstamp voucher-type system with a "debit card" system. It was believed that such a system would be cost effective (saving mailing costs and being able to be renewed electronically), and would remove some of the social stigma of using foodstamps. Not discussed (apparently) and one of those unspoken assumptions, was that "everyone" was familiar with debit/credit cards.
A test of the program was run in New York City. Foodstamp recipients received their new food debit cards in the mail. Very shortly, foodstamp offices were being overrun with people wanting to know where their foodstamps were. A number had discarded the cards, all who showed up had no idea how to use them. The originators of this innovation were stunned. What was up with this? They had never thought about the fact that many of the people receiving foodstamps lived within a cash-based society and did not have even bank accounts much less debit or credit cards. It never occurred to them that knowledge of ATM and checkpoint systems might not be common knowledge.
Why did they not know this? Because such experience and knowledge was such an integral part of their world that they thought it was just "common knowledge." These were not folks who were deliberately classist or racist. In fact, they were trying to address some stigma issues with their decision. However, the socially structured reality that they lived in was quite different than that of most food stamp recipients.
So what does representation from diverse groups within our organizations, communities, society, and yes - the Supreme Court of the United States mean? It does not mean that "those people" all have an agenda, or are contaminated by "identity politics." It does mean that people coming from different realms of our society bring understandings and different perspectives with them. "Different" including the dominant group(s) understandings and experiences.
The white male Justice is no more neutral or unbiased than the Justice who is not white or male. If we are to attribute agendas, then we could equally argue that the white male Justice has an agenda as well - that of blindly reinforcing the structured inequality and biases of the society in which they reside.
That last sentence likely raises the blood pressure of many reading it. So take a breath and ask if the assumption that a non-white, non-male Justice should be labeled as inherently biased is any different an assumption - or any less of an insult.
Related ResourcesRNC fumbles Sotomayor talking points. The Hill. 5/26/09.
Identity Justice. George Will. Wa. Post. 5/27/09.
Lady Justice.
Note
A brief examination of Lady Justice is instructive.
The presence of Lady Justice (or Blind Justice) is ubiquitous in U.S. courts. This is actually a statue of the Greek Goddess Themis (so one would think that some folks would have a problem with this). Regardless, if we look up "Themis" in Wikipedia we find:
"Themis is an ancient Greek goddess. She is described as "of good counsel", and
is the embodiment of divine order, law, and custom. Themis means "law of
nature" rather than human ordinance, literally "that which is put in place",
from the verb τίθημι, títhēmi, "to put". To the ancient Greeks she was
originally the organizer of the "communal affairs of humans, particularly
assemblies".[1] Moses Finley remarked of themis, as the word was used by Homer
in the 8th century, to evoke the social order of the 10th- and 9th-century
Greek Dark Ages: Themis is untranslatable. A gift of the gods and a mark of
civilized existence, sometimes it means right custom, proper procedure, social
order, and sometimes merely the will of the gods (as revealed by an omen, for
example) with little of the idea of right.[2]" BUT "Themis occurred in Hesiod's
Theogony as the first recorded appearance of Justice as a divine personage.
Drawing not only on the socio-religious consciousness of his time but also on
many of the earlier cult-religions, Hesiod described the forces of the universe
as cosmic divinities. Hesiod portrayed temporal justice, Dike, as the daughter
of Zeus and Themis (daughter of Uranus and Gaia). Dike executed the law of
judgments and sentencing and, together with her mother Themis, carried out the
final decisions of Moira. For Hesiod, Justice is at the center of religious and
moral life, who, independently of Zeus, is the embodiment of divine will. This
personification of Dike will stand in contrast to justice viewed as custom or
law, and as retribution or sentence. [5]"
This is indeed interesting, because Themis ruled over traditions and mores, and Dike was actually the rule of law as we understand it. This may actually explain a lot about how some see the role of the courts and the Supreme Court in particular.













Wow.
You blow me away. I'll have to digest this and report back.
May 30, 2009 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look you are missing Buchanan's point here Rowan with all due respect!!!
I mean if we could just have all white English men been from Virginia (whose names did not include Webb) who happen to have confederate flags on their office walls and lynch ropes hanging from the ceiling, well, we could reinstate the Dred Scott decision and START ALL OVER.
But in all seriousness Rowan, I hereby award you the Dayly Blog of the Day Award for this here TPMCafe site given from all of me to all of you for several reasons but primarily for:
"They had never thought about the fact that many of the people receiving foodstamps lived within a cash-based society and did not have even bank accounts much less debit or credit cards. It never occurred to them that knowledge of ATM and checkpoint systems might not be common knowledge."
This is BRILLIANT. I do not think others may understand how brilliant your argument is. Not once have I heard such reasoning from the left on cable; nor have I read a similar account at my normal sites.
Thank you for this. No kidding.
May 30, 2009 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"This is BRILLIANT. I do not think others may understand how brilliant your argument is."
So SMARTYPANTS... only YOU can understand the genius of the Manatee, eh? Well, I'll speak for all us of the animal world and say WE TOO appreciate the singular smarts of teh Sea Cow!!!
REALLY WELL DONE, Rowan! I'd like to see more of such concrete examples of how life experience plays in. I don't like the framing of the nomination debate in terms of 'empathy'. That's a word with some sentimentalist overtones (in the bad sense) which merely distract from the central issue and importance of various life experience as a source of KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT when dealing with a lot of the race/gender/class based cases that come before the court.
May 30, 2009 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you Obey. All of us of skin, fur, and feather truly must stick together.
Yeah, I could have hoped for a better framing than empathy, though I do know what Obama was trying to convey. On the other hand, he could have helped things a lot by speaking of JUDGE Sotomayor, rather than "Sonia." I certainly understand the advantages of speaking in the familiar, folksy, voice, but it also detracts from credibility. Given that her credibility and professional skill and experience is being challenged, this becomes even more important.
As far as the "Republicans" one has to wonder sometimes. However, I do believe that many of them are becoming very uncomfortable at the very narrow line they have drawn to walk upon.
May 30, 2009 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really can't get too worked up about the Republican talking points here, Rowan. They've picked a losing argument (probably because there IS nothing else to grasp at), have no chance of blocking it, and only stand to expose themselves as rabid racists. So I'm just watching them crash and burn. Unless there are pictures of her smoking cigars with Fidel, she'll coast through...
May 30, 2009 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
From your lips to the Great Canine's ears.
May 30, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do I always hit submit when I aim at preview. Must be the shift of typing under water.
I did not mean that to be specieist, just have a fondness for dogs and their sensibility. Unfortunately sea cows can get a bit silly at times.
May 30, 2009 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahahahah. Smarty pants. Obey, you got me rolling all over the floor.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO CLEAN IT UP!!!
May 30, 2009 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw man! I thought we had a BROOM around here for this kind of contingency....
May 31, 2009 6:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
DD, I take this as the highest compliment from a source whom I truly respect. Thank you sir!
I think one of the most difficult things for people to understand about society is that it is structured in such a way that as members of these social groups we move in different worlds in many ways. We then think that our experience is everyone's experience. This is magnified many times over for those who happen to belong to higher status (dominant) groups.
I ask my students near the beginning of the term to write on why diversity is important. My teeth are ground down to nubs with "It would be boring if we were all the same." This is the most frequent response given by my "white" students. Not all of them, but easily 90% of them.
Within the view of the blindly privileged, diversity offers "entertainment" and "diversion." It has little, if any substantive meaning. They think their world is everyone's world. For too many, racial and ethnic diversity is a consumption process. They know about different cultures because they eat at a Mexican or "Asian" or "Middle Eastern" restaurant. They went to the park for the Asian New Year celebration, and the "costumes" were pretty. The significant contributions of "other" cultures which are "integrated " into our own, are pizza and clothing. When I ask them how the VALUES or world view of the people's of other culture's have influenced mainstream U.S. culture, they stare blankly at me.
The MSM reinforces this of course. As does the pratter when things like the nomination of Judge Sotomayor to the Supreme Court, or Eric Holder for Attorney General happen. Obviously their qualifications for their jobs is the least part of the "discussion." Then you get the endless chanting of "talking points" from the rogue gallery (see DD's blog), and what else do we need? What they says fits right into the cultural meme.
Sorry - guess I wasn't through ranting. :-[
But to close, DD, part of why I have such respect for you is that you actually get the point I was trying to make and too darn many do not.
May 30, 2009 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Rowan, even when you are responding to me in your own blog....
This is really good. And Obey knows it. And everybody here knows it.
Cultural relativity was a Franz Boas concept once. I just made a joke about chinese take out elsewhere--knowing that I was once in love with Chinese Take-Out--but it is more than what he was attempting to get at.
America may well be the greatest melting pot in history. Although the Romans and the Brits were not totally removed from the concept.
I just get so damn mad when even 'liberal' people miss the point. WE DO NOT NEED NINE WHITEMEN TO DECIDE OUR FATE.
I really enjoyed this blog!!! No kidding
But we must do what we can to put Obey in his place. hahaha
May 30, 2009 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now DD,
First, this little sea mammal is not going to get in the middle of a tiff between you and Obey. (spins in circles in distress)
Second, while I am almost irresistibly drawn to ranting about "melting pots" and "salad bowls" and other ludicrous descriptions of structured racial inequality in the U.S, I have ranted enough for one day.
Third, thank you again for your support DD.
May 30, 2009 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Superb, Rowan. When I try to explain why color-blind is wrong, I get tangled in peripheral issues until my argument unravels into a bunch of strings. (Is white a race, privileged, etc.)
The one point I would add is that SCOTUS only recently (relatively) took up the color-blind standard as a replacement for the 'fairness' that affirmative action was thought to provide. And the one guy on the court that might have been able to hold the court back from doing so is not exactly cognizant of what he didn't do. Sigh.
As most Republicans are more interested in their ideology being implemented rather than the outcomes of what it produces, one could argue that justice (fairness) was struck mute and left behind.
May 30, 2009 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seashell, I think that the fundamental problem is that most people do not understand the meaning of "privilege" when it comes to group status issues.
For example, the "white" male saying "I busted my butt for everything I've got. What is not understood or acknowledged is that many from other status groups also "bust their butts" for far less (or little) return.
In relationship to race issues, there was a great series done a while back called "Race the Power of Illusion." One part of the 3 part series is called "The House You Live In" and it deals significantly with institutional (social policy) inequality. I believe that section (in 6 parts) is now out at youtube. If you can't find it there, let me know and I can share where you can find it online.
May 30, 2009 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Dick said, Rowan... Brilliant. I look forward to your ideas percolating up through the blogosphere and into the MSM. ;)
May 30, 2009 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
When is Dowd's next column again...?
(oh soooo low, I know...)
;0)
May 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Surely, she's laid off the plag - for now.
May 30, 2009 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
HA!
May 30, 2009 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really, Rowan. DD is correct. This is brilliant. Turns the argument on Sotomayer right on its ear.
May 30, 2009 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks flower. Like I said, I just got fed up.
May 30, 2009 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rowan,
Your sparkling analysis exudes light
from both sides of the brain and
lands clearly in my actual brown hands.
Thank you! ☼
May 30, 2009 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gosh stratofrog. Both sides of the brain? Must be reflecting off the sparkling water of my little pool. Thank you! :->
May 30, 2009 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rowan -- great analysis. I'd love to jump in about those right wing conservative male ASSHATs but I have today take the no blame pledge (at least one day at a time.) Cheers.
May 30, 2009 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
(claps flippers and blows bubbles)
Well ww, that's kind of a backhanded stab, but it's hard to lay off all at once.
Actually, I was aiming at a systemic problem though the ASSHATs likely know that but also know their rant pushes cultural buttons.
May 30, 2009 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
My remark was not a stab at you, Rowan; you are invariably balanced and not blinded by anything. My reference was to the fact that I took the pledge on another post, and then was sorely tempted to say a word or two here that would not follow your fine example. So please forgive me if I did not make that clear.
May 30, 2009 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I knew that having read that post and your response and pledge. I did not think you were taking a "backhanded stab" at my post, but at your pledge. My response was in that context - though apparently I was the one who was not clear. I did the ASSHATs "for" you. Is that "enabling?" ;~)
May 30, 2009 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really GREAT post. I tried to rec it 5 times, but it wouldn't take.
I'm hearing on MSNBC that her confirmation is a slam dunk, and I hope that is true. Yours is a better analysis of the situation than any I have heard or read anywhere...good job!
May 30, 2009 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks SI! That is high praise indeed.
I imagine that she will get confirmed, but that is not the whole problem.
What this type of rhetoric does is to fan the flames of stereotype and prejudice. That then comes out in all kinds of ways - at regular people. Certainly it adds to the vitriolic hyperbole about "illegal" immigrants. It reinforces the idea that anyone not a white male is "special interest" and only got their job because of "affirmative action." It reinforces the stereotype that those who are not white males are by default unskilled and undeserving of the jobs that they hold.
The real issue (and in fact the real target) is NOT Sotomayor - anymore than it was Holder. And all particular targets aside, that intentional fanning of bigotry and hate is the devastating aspect of the "debate."
May 30, 2009 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Racism. Sometimes I find it hard to believe we are still, in this day in age, having to deal with it.
May 30, 2009 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
SI, racism (and other isms) are deeply embedded within the warp and weave of this society. If we do not address them, they will be here a thousand years from now - should we live that long
(DD blesses himself and all of us).
Racism (and other isms) is not going to just go away. They change the way they manifest themselves. I can almost guarantee you that in 20 years we will look back and say, "How could we have ever let that go on." Until we can address the current manifestations of cultural bigotry, invisible privilege, and structured inequality, we will not resolve these issues - IMHO.
May 30, 2009 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stilli, I knew you would like this blog.
the end
May 30, 2009 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
... ALSO
May 30, 2009 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonderful analysis, Rowen! Simply outstanding!
At one point as I was reading, I recalled sitting in a medical office, waiting my turn. A black man came in and asked the receptionist if it was a particular office he was looking for. She got upset and asked in an irritated voice something about bothering to read. After he left, I went over to the receptionist and said to her quietly: "Maybe he can't read." I'm sure it had never occurred to her. Likely it happened a lot. But how often do people consider that some people are asking because they simply can't read.
So well done! Thanks.
May 30, 2009 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Times weighing in. Sanity!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/opinion/31sun1.html
May 30, 2009 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you TheraP!
People don't generally stop and think at all. That is the social dance and the "ready interpretation" has been provided in endless variety. People are actually stunned when someone responds "atypically" - or their interpretation is clearly wrong. Susan Boyle is a glaring example of this writ large.
Illiteracy is a sadly growing problem in this country. GADS! (Not to say that was what happened at the doctor's office, but it was good to "check" her in my opinion.)
May 30, 2009 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG - I finally watched Olbermann from Friday and saw G. Gordon Liddy's comment about hoping Judge Sotomayer wouldn't be menstruating on a day when a big decision was to come down...
So now it's not just that she's a racist, she's a racist FEMALE...have these people no shame?
May 30, 2009 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shame? I don't think so. Most of those who are so vocal in this case have cast shame to the wind with the full embrace of "the (glorious) ends justify all (ignoble) means." (My personal opinion.)
May 30, 2009 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stilli, since ww took a vow not to blame today, I'm going to rant for her and me and you and Rowan and every other person in the world that was offended by that assclown's stupid, ignorant, racist, sexist, moronic mental ejaculations that spewed forth yesterday. Did I mention misogynistic?
And yet he has a radio program presumably spouting Republican doctrine. I hope he and his party drown in a sea of backlash and swim with the fishes, although that might be considered pollution and an affront to fishes and sea cows.
So, if his party does suffer from it, I will smile and get over it. :-) And I won't mind if he suffers for it, too.
May 31, 2009 12:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now seashell that was one hell of an amazing sentence! I feel vicariously ranted, and you can rant for me anytime. I am sending you a virtual cheezburger slider. Thank you.
May 31, 2009 1:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
{Burp}
All gone, Rowan. Thank you. I luvs cheezburgerz!
I can bay at the moon, too. (Just in case you ever need that service along with a rant.)
Also. :-)
May 31, 2009 2:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll be sure to keep the cheezburgers on hand in case of a surprise visit. And howling may come in handy too.
May 31, 2009 2:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahahaha! Love it! Can you believe that jerk? And who on the right is coming out and denouncing what he said? I haven't heard a single one...
Thanks for sending me to the front page...I'm often so excited to hear what y'all have to say I forget to check it!
May 31, 2009 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, that was cathartic! ;)
May 31, 2009 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rowan This is good,good,good. I have to read it again to get it all, its really rich.I dont remember ever having a teacher like you,so interesting and thought provoking. I sure would have paid more attention in class.
May 30, 2009 11:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Honored DonDi.
My experience as a teacher has taught me that we hear things when we are ready to hear them. The more mystical say we draw the messages to us. So perhaps some teacher said something that ultimately brought you to this place where I reap the compliment and the benefits of the seed she or he planted. :>
May 31, 2009 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Glenn Greenwald today takes Jeffrey Rosen to task:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/31/rosen/index.html
And some worthwhile musing about reporting at emptywheel:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/31/dan-froomkin-anachronistic-voices/#Respond
May 31, 2009 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brilliant post, Rowan. This is the argument that should end all this foolishness. In a fair world, it would be.
May 31, 2009 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Ramona. I would modify "foolishness" to "hateful foolishness" but I totally agree.
The problem is not that the world is not fair, but that we create and perpetuate inequalities that create unfairness.
May 31, 2009 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"So where does the line of "identity politics" get drawn, and who gets perceived as "biased?" "
Isn't that the POINT of the debate, to exercise that question not to denigrate it?
It's worth distinguishing the Particular from the General. Sotomayor is a particular candidate with particular characteristics. So in part the debate is about her suitability for the Bench. But there is another debate going on, one which is more dialectical than practical. It is the particular debate of ideas in general. In this debate the particulars of Sotomayor are merely symbols used to exercise ideas and to keep the collective consciousness from getting rusted into a "business as usual" mental rut.
Your food stamps card story nicely illustrates the general value of such debate via the effects of the absence of debate in that particular case. Sometimes fiction can inform ideas. The General components of the debate might be fictional relative to the Particular particulars. That is, Sotomayor is, or becomes, simply a "lightning rod" for the General debate, a Particular foil for General mental fencing practice. The debate is less about her qualifications or particular characteristics, and more about airing what might be the dirty laundry of society's status quo which while perhaps 95% clean should not be blindly assumed to be 100% free from imperfection.
May 31, 2009 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'll be nice to get a justice on the SC who actually represents all the people of this country. For all I care Roberts, Alito and Scalia could drop dead tomorrow. They have no buiness on the SC. Having judges with such a narrow perspective on things is damaging to the country. Roberts especially is a slimeball.
You can be sure that those persons who are making all manner of noise suggesting Sotomayor isn't suited for the job, especially government officals of the republican persuasion, have not the slightest interest in justice or equality in any way shape or form.
May 31, 2009 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it has anything to do with Sotomayor at all. It is part of "the big fear."
May 31, 2009 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. It's an invention of certain persons who, as I said, seek an alternative agenda that has absolutely not a thing to do with what is good for the citizens of this country. It's about money, control and a denial of freedom pure and simple.
It's appalling that we have so many lawmakers wielding tremendous power who in all objectivity unabashedly pursue anti-social policies and who by most measures suffer from serious personality disorders. One very strong indicator is to take a measure of how many of our elected officials get up in front of the nation every day and express one lie after another without the slightest qualm about the fact that everyone knows it. These are seriously sick, criminally ill people.
June 1, 2009 5:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rowan, there is one thing for sure, and that is the truth.
Maverick and 28 year veteran of Washington, DC, John Sidney McCain was going to take on that old boys network of which you speak. He would have had the support of every one of the old boys network while doing it. If he was President.
May 31, 2009 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rowan, since you are about to disappear into the black hole soon, I just wanted to let you and others who might be interested know that George Tiller, the Kansas abortion doctor who is always at the center of commotion, was shot and killed this morning while walking into his church.
The suspect is already in custody.
kansas.com is following and reporting the story.
And this was just released: Abortion foes fear backlash to Tiller's slaying.
May 31, 2009 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard shell. Sick. Just sick.
May 31, 2009 11:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, Well Said!
I particularly enjoyed the background on Themis. You make a fascinating corollary that I will definitely borrow in the future.
I confess that having grown up in Roman Catholic grade schools I am disturbed that we have a sitting majority of male conservative catholic justices. I am looking forward to Sottomayor for some balance. However, It is a little strange to me that two minorities (Catholic and Jewish) will soon have 8 of 9 SC seats- with only a soon to retire justice Stevens representing the protestant majority.
June 1, 2009 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink