Well that's a coincidence.
Because I was just considering voting for McCain, and your complaint about RM Rock's post has completely turned me off. Now, just because of you, I'm going back to Obama.

Way to go gretz. Aren't you ashamed of yourself now?

no problem gretz. I am fully aware that not everyone will find Ms. Stirman's spewage as toxic as do I.

That said, I am glad you have been able to find both the candidate and the political party that best represents your vision of America.

To whatever extent I have helped you in your quest, you are quite welcome.

Which ever your candidate, make sure to vote.

Her view is intolerant, from first to last. And you are intolerant of fact in your ignorance of the meaning of "liberal".

The Founders of our country were LIBERALS. The essence of LIBERALISM is the First Amendmnet, which exists to protect unpopular speech (popular speech needs no protection). That is, LIBERALISM is FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE AND BELIEF. It IS the philosophy of tolerance because it allows expression even of INtolerance. It even allows belief in and expression of its enemy FASCISM.

Ms. Stirman's view is ANTI-Liberal. It is ANTI-Muslim -- without exception. It is ANTI-"socialist -- unless one is a wealthy Wall St. mega-millionaire capitalist who FUCKS UP, in which case the taxpayer, who lost because of that fuck up, bails out the fuck up.

Stirman is for being bailed out, but not for bailing out others who aren't already sufficently wealthy to "pay their own way".

I won't accuse her -- or you -- of knowing anything not falsification, bigotry, let alone of actually THINKING.

And as is obvious from her "clarificaiton" of her unfounded bigotry against Muslims" -- aside from the fact that Obama is NOT Muslim -- "I don't trust them at all. They've sworn across the world that they are our enemies. Why we're trying to elect one is beside me."

She is absolutely closed minded against learning ANYTHING beyond or other than the FALSEHOODS she already "knows". And that is the essence of intolerance, of bigotry: No matter how many times she is told that Obama is NOT Muslim, she ignores that fact in order to persist in her UNFOUNDED AND REFUTED EXCUSE FOR HATING.

Go ahed: vote for your fellow racists on the basis that Stirman was called that she in fact and obviously is: a B-I-G-O-T.

A vote for McCain and for the type of ignorance displayed in the above list is not a vote for real conservative government or for gaining a rational conservative counterbalance to left-leaning governing policies. A vote for McCain is a vote for more neoconservative fascism that will destroy the Republic.

Gertz,

Probably THEE most important thing anyone can do is to "BE INTOLERANT OF THE INTOLERANT"

Until "moerons" like Stirman are SHAMED back into the shadows we ALL suffer.

why can't this woman have a diversity of opinion from you?

No one is saying she can't, but if she really believes "...in fiscal responsibility, for the government and for us", I'm a little surprised she's a Republican. I can't remember the last time a Republican President signed a balanced budget, or had any plan to balance the budget or lower the national debt (other than through wishful thinking).

For that matter, she also believes "...that government is way too big and rife with greed and corruption.", though the Republican party has been in charge of the Executive branch for the last 8 years, and the Legislative Branch for 6 of the last 8 years (and for most of the preceding 6 years before then).

She also states "I believe in the truth. People believe lies because it's much easier than finding the truth". Certainly members of both parties lie or distort the truth, but the biggest political lie I can think of is a Republican Administration telling us we had to invade Iraq because Saddam had WMD.

I'm also puzzled by her statement that "I believe Muslims are our enemies" and what that has to do, or ought to do, with being a Republican. Certainly, Colin Powell doesn't agree. And I think it's worth quoting Powell in his Meet the Press interview last Sunday

I feel strongly about this particular point because of a picture I saw in a magazine. It was a photo essay about troops who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And one picture at the tail end of this photo essay was of a mother in Arlington Cemetery, and she had her head on the headstone of her son's grave. And as the picture focused in, you could see the writing on the headstone. And it gave his awards--Purple Heart, Bronze Star--showed that he died in Iraq, gave his date of birth, date of death. He was 20 years old. And then, at the very top of the headstone, it didn't have a Christian cross, it didn't have the Star of David, it had crescent and a star of the Islamic faith. And his name was Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, and he was an American. He was born in New Jersey. He was 14 years old at the time of 9/11, and he waited until he can go serve his country, and he gave his life.

And if Muslims are our enemies, why did Bush II launch the war from Kuwait? Although if she believes that approximately a billion or more people are our enemies, it would explain why she thinks war is inevitable.

Then there's the Muslim Socialist canard (which is an oxymoron is she's using Muslim as short-hand for al-Qaeda. Obama is a Christian and it's a Republican Administration that's nationalizing the banks. And I thought the Constitution said something about no religious tests for public office?

There are other statements she makes that don't really explain why she's a Republican (personal responsibility? Sarah Palin doesn't even buy her own clothes anymore).

In short, she didn't do a good job of explaining why she's a Republican. It comes across as a self-righteous, hate-filled screed.

Must we tolertate fascism?

Good lord...why is everyone feeding the troll?!?? If you leave it alone, it will starve and go elsewhere.

You didn't need to be pushed into voting for McSAME. You obviously share this persons' ignorant and racists point of view. I would even venture to say that not ALL RepubliCONS feel this way. We don't need you or anyone like you or the author of this horrible,offensive,ignorant,racist letter. Go ahead and waste your vote. People like this are what makes the GOP look like they are so out of touch. This country was built from the sweat of slaves and immigrants alike!! You so called "Patriots" should know that. Not every Muslim is a terrorists.Just like not all RepubliCONS are racists!!!

Gretz -- I'm trying to do some analysis of your comments here. The original poster pretty much let these comments from Stirman speak for themselves. From the timestamps on the comments here, you are apparently the third poster in response and the first two comments can hardly be called 'intolerant'.
So my conclusion is that this dialog made up your mind to vote for McCain is bullshit and you are a troll.
I'm sad that I spent as much time as this responding to you. It won't happen again.

"You just talked me into voting for McCain."

Oh please. We all know that's not true. Grow up.

Does she have an email address? I'd LOVE to communicate to her before then about her "hating for no reason" -- perhaps shove copy of bobby d.'s "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" up her nose.

Or "Pawn in Their Game" so maybe she'll be shocked into self-recognition.

Here's her Facebook page.

http://www.myspace.com/402448984

She says Tom Selleck is her hero for telling Rosie off. How pathetic.

Says she's depressed. Boo-hoo!

No wonder....she has a total of 2 friends.

It's beside her? So in addition to being a bigot, she doesn't speak her native language very well.

No no no... bombarding this woman with telephone calls is NOT the answer. It turns us into the bad guys. The answer is voting Obama into office so that, as the 8 years of his presidency pass in relative peace, she comes to see that her suspicions were unfounded.

Thanks for taking the time to post.

A few brief points -

1. The Bible doesn't say "we all have to love one another, and feel good." In John 13:34-35, Christ says,

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

2. That thing about liberal bias? On this site, we always complain about its conservative bias. I guess it depends on your perspective.

3. I also get the sense that Obama, while a Christian, is no evangelical. That said, do you really think McCain is demonstrably more Christian, insofar as such a thing can be judged? I sure don't!

4. Your admission "I do not know if Obama is now Muslim" can only be explained by wilfull ignorance. If you don't care about the truth, how can you complain about things like media bias? How can you behave like this when you profess to believe in an all-knowing God? I feel sorry for you.

Our country was founded and prospered on Christian beliefs and principles. We are a Christian nation.

HAHAHHAHAHA! You really don't understand The Constitution of The United States very well, do you?