Hamas' Mickey Mouse Promotes Palestinian Suicide Bombers: Or Does He?
Brian Whittaker has done a terrific piece of research journalism to explain how MEMRI pulled the wool over the eyes of the international media in its reporting about a Hamas TV show, in which Mickey Mouse allegedly encourages a young Palestinian girl to profess her readiness to become a suicide bomber. Even the AP, CNN, and progressive bloggers like Matt Yglesias (Jihad TV? C'mon Matt, you can do better than that) were suckered into reporting the story pretty much as MEMRI (or in Matt's case, Palestinian Media Watch) gave it to them. The trouble is--the program transcript as reported by MEMRI was wrongly translated:
In the Hamas video clip issued by Memri, a Mickey Mouse lookalike asks a young girl what she will do "for the sake of al-Aqsa". Apparently trying to prompt an answer, the mouse makes a rifle-firing gesture and says "I'll shoot".The child says: "I'm going to draw a picture."
Memri's translation ignores this remark and instead quotes the child (wrongly) as saying: "I'll shoot."
Pressed further by the mouse - "What are we going to do?" - the girl replies in Arabic: "Bidna nqawim." The normal translation of this would be "We're going to [or want to] resist" but Memri's translation puts a more aggressive spin on it: "We want to fight."
The mouse continues: "What then?"
According to Memri, the child replies: "We will annihilate the Jews."
The sound quality on the clip is not very good, but I have listened to it several times (as have a number of native Arabic speakers) and we can hear no word that might correspond to "annihilate".
What the girl seems to say is: "Bitokhoona al-yahood" - "The Jews will shoot us" or "The Jews are shooting us."
This is followed by further prompting - "We are going to defend al-Aqsa with our souls and blood, or are we not?"
Again, the girl's reply is not very clear, but it's either: "I'll become a martyr" or "We'll become martyrs."
In the context of the conversation, and in line with normal Arab-Islamic usage, martyrdom could simply mean being killed by the Israelis' shooting. However, Memri's translation of the sentence - "I will commit martyrdom" turns it into a deliberate act on the girl's part, and Colonel Carmon has since claimed that it refers to suicide bombers.
When I read about this story first at Matt Yglesias' blog I wrote a doubting comment at his blog as soon as I noticed his source was Palestinian Media Watch. If you write about the Mideast conflict as long as I have you tend to know which sources are immediately credible and which are only credible if independently verified. And MEMRI is one that I never credit unless verified by a more reliable, and less tendentious source.
If I knew to keep my distance why could not AP, CNN and other publications have invested in the time it would take to ask Arabic speakers to vet MEMRI's translation? Now, they wouldn't have egg on their face. Of course, the problem is the damage is now done. MEMRI's story, though false, has circulated deeply and widely. No amount of clarification from the Brian Whittakers of the world can correct the false impression planted by the anti-Arab propagandists.
On a final note, I completely agree with Brian that it is unpardonable for Hamas to place children in the position they did in questioning the girl on this show. Using children for political purposes is despicable and worthy of condemnation. But if we're going to condemn this program, let's do so based on accurate, credible information and not based on someone's fever dream of Arab anti-Semitism and annihilationsim.
I also note that the AP provided a translation of a speech by the Mickey Mouse character which should also be questioned:
You and I are laying the foundation for a world led by Islamists, the character squeaked on a recent episode. We will return the Islamic community to its former greatness and liberate Jerusalem, God willing, liberate Iraq, God willing, and liberate all the countries of the Muslims invaded by the murderers.
Which is summarized thusly:
Hamas militants have suspended a television program that featured a Mickey Mouse look-alike urging Palestinian children to fight Israel and work for global Islamic domination
AP doesn't say where this translation comes from: MEMRI? Their own independent sources? Remember what The Who used to warn us? "We won't be fooled again." Let the media beware and verify MEMRI stories and translations before running with them.
A big hat tip to Sol Salbe.
[cross-posted to Tikun Olam]





Good post, but Palestinian Media Watch (the source of the inaccurate translations) and Palestine Media Watch are very different entities.
May 16, 2007 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well noted, & corrected. I didn't even know there were two such similar sounding entities. Thanks for that.
Richard Silverstein
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May 16, 2007 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, so this "corrected" version is better?
For kids?
I must be turning into a prude in my old age...
"Thank God George Bush is our president." -Rudy Giuliani
May 16, 2007 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure what you have a problem with...that the child wants to resist Israeli Occupation? Or that the child realizes that if she does attempt to defend ground her people consider sacred that she might get shot by Israelis?
No one says this stuff is the way we'd like the world to be. PUtting kids in jeopardy is not the way things should be. But this actually happens to Palestinian children every day. So are we upset because Palestinian TV reflects what actually happnens to their young ones?
Richard Silverstein
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May 16, 2007 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a problem that it doesn't seem to be a particularly good TV show for kids.
"Thank God George Bush is our president." -Rudy Giuliani
May 17, 2007 9:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Serious question. How does this post rate front page attention?
May 16, 2007 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe because the adulterated story has been plastered all over the international media & it's about time to correct the record among people who care about accuracy & fairness?
Richard Silverstein
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May 16, 2007 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I"m afraid I have to agree with cscs. It sure doesn't sound as if it's promoting, shall we say, a positive image of Israelis (oops, "the Jews") or of a state of Israel not entirely in need of liberating. I think we can understand the suffering that the Palestinians have gone through, how military "solutions" have made that worse, and how brutalization translates into bad psychology. Heck, if there's one thing that Islam and Judaism share, it's freedom from the idea that suffering ennobles. But it doesn't mean we have to admire the outcome as if it were noble. Otherwise, we'd only reinforce the feeling both sides have that it's enough to blame the other.
John
http://www.haberarts.com/
May 16, 2007 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, I'm not crazy about children seeing this stuff either, but lets not fall into the trap of displaying more indignation when Hamas refers to Israel killing Palestinian kids than we do when Israel actually kills Palestinian kids.
May 16, 2007 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now we are playing the game of understanding Arab double speak. This is the same argument over what "jihad" means. Every Muslim knows it means spreading Islam by the sword. Yet, Muslims like Tariq Ramadan who is trying to make an alliance between Islamist extremists and Leftist/Anti-Globalists/Marxists/Communists who are generally atheists/agnostics is trying to build an alliance based on the a joint hatred of Jews and the United States, will claim "jihad means an internal struggle for the environment, against global warming or for women's rights". This of course, is nonsense.
Same here. When they have the kid babble that it wants to be a martyr, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT MEANS A SUICIDE BOMBER because that is how the term is used today. That is what suicide bombers are referred to. Arafat used the term like that.
May 16, 2007 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
"When they have the kid babble that it wants to be a martyr, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT MEANS A SUICIDE BOMBER because that is how the term is used today. That is what suicide bombers are referred to. Arafat used the term like that."
Well, EVERYONE who belongs to the cadres of radicial rightwing Israel apologists may believe that martyr=suicide bomber despite the fact that Arab use of the term martyr and/or martyred to describe to victims of factional violence is commonplace.
May 17, 2007 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you just think about it, it is clear I was referring to the context of their war against Israel.
Even if the more "benign" interpretation we see here is correct (something I do NOT concede), the kid is still being told that the war goes on and on forever. Since the sainted Palestinian leaders signed a "peace agreement" with Israel, isn't that sort of thing supposed to be passe? Since as Mr Silverstein seems to be indicating in his writings that the Palestinians are far more virtuous than us Jews/Israelis, shouldn't they be the ones who are talking more about peace than us Jews? Wouldn't it be an Israeli kiddie show that is talking about keeping the war going wheras the Arab Mickey Mouse would be talking about peace and making Palestine a model state, something like Lebanon, Algeria or Somalia?
May 17, 2007 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, but you can't arbitrarily dissassociate common usage of terminolgy in order to support your settler-centric intrepretation of that bogus mickey mouse piece of hasbara.
I could ask you why settler parents dress their kiddies up as Baruch Goldstein during Purim celebrations and allow them to point their toy rifles at real live Palestinians in Hebron.
But frankly, I'm thoroughly disgusted with the hatred both sides cultivate within their young.
hmmmmmmm. I know that Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon over two decades...are you saying that Algeria and Somalia were also influenced by Israel?
May 17, 2007 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Although not directly related to this thread, here is a hot item from
Ha'aretz today.
"The only hope for Gaza is Israeli
occupation"
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/860681.html
May 16, 2007 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there's a psycho fruitbat notion.
Wasn't Israeli occupation at the heart of the problem in the first place?
May 17, 2007 8:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, the problem is the psychosis that is afflicting much of the Arab world....rage and self-pity. There is no problem between Israel and the Arabs that can't be solved with a little good will, but if you will recall, the so-called "occupation" began in 1967 after Nasser and his fellow dictators announced publicly (like a later Persian maniac) that they were going to "wipe Israel off the map". When Israel took control of the Gaza Strip and Judea/Samaria there was no electricity or running water in much of the region. Israel supplied these, brought health services up to Western standards and, particularly in Gaza, provided employment and money for people who had been living on UNRWA handouts for 19 years. As a result of this, the Arabs built up their rage and self-pity and lashed out, even after Israel pulled out of Gaza. If you think this is due to "occupation", then please explain to me the fratricidal slaughter in Lebanon, Iraq, Algeria, Somalia, Yemen, etc, etc. Also, if "occupation" is the problem, then why do Israeli Arabs vehemently reject Lieberman's proposal to transfer some Israeli Arab towns to Palestinian Authority control. Why are so many Judea/Samaria Arabs trying to get to live in Israeli-controlled Jerusalem if living under Israeli control is so bad?
May 17, 2007 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your comments seem so permeated with rage and self pity I have to assume that you, yourself are an Arab?
May 17, 2007 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a link to an article from Ha'aretz about an Arab who was arrested for conspiring to kill Prime Minister Olmert:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/860717.html
It must have been all that Arab "hate speech" that incited him to do it. What do ya think?
May 17, 2007 3:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Could be. Was it Arab "hate speech" that incited that guy to assassinate Rabin too?
May 17, 2007 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mr Silverstein seems to be implying that ONLY Jews have hate speech, since he claims one Knesset Member saying that Azmi Bishara should be "strung up" should be extrapolated to mean that the MK is saying all Arabs should be killed.
On the other hand, he interprets Arab Mickey Mouse calling little kids to aspire to be suicide bombers in a "benign" sense, that "they really don't mean it that way".
Sure there was a lot of opposition to Rabin, but many people seem to think that saying you oppose a politician's policy should be extrapolated to meaning that he should be eradicated. That is a little ridiculous, isn't it? That was the excuse Stalin used for his Great Terror - anyone who opposed him was guilty of trying to kill him.
May 17, 2007 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks BarKochba for reminding me why I banned you from commenting at my blog. You either lie deliberately about what my views are or you are such a propagandist that you don't even recognize that you're twisting my views out of any relation to reality.
First, I don't believe that one side is any more virtuous than the other. It's only ultra-Zionists like you who believe in the superior virtuousness of your side.
I didn't "imply" or say that only Jews have hate speech. Again, that's in yr overactive imagination. I said that Avigdor Lieberman's public statement that Azmi Bishara should be strung up fr. a lightpost was part of an environment of incitement of hatred against Arabs which fed into the terror murder of a Palestinian taxi driver by an Israeli fanatic earlier this wk.
Don't bother to let facts or reality get in the way of yr argument.
And since we're talking about the manipulation of children for political ends, let's not forget that Palestinians aren't the only ones who do this. The AP featured photos of Israeli schoolgirls inscribing "love letters" on IDF munitions about to be shot into Hezbollah territory during the past Lebanon war. And settler extremists posted their children with their hands up and bulls eyes on their shirts with the inscription: "Karadi [the national police chief] Shoot me!" All this because the police were removing settlers from illegal outposts.
Isn't there enough blame to go around on both sides???
Richard Silverstein
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May 17, 2007 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is odd that you took great offense when you wrongly thought I called you a "post-Zionist" (post-Zionism applies to the ruling clique in Israel. According to Ben-Gurion you, since you live in the US would not be allowed to call yourself a "Zionist" either, so you can get mad at him as well), yet you call me a liar and an ultra-Zionist (which I view as a compliment, but which you obviously consider an insult). Thus, you apparently enjoy insulting other people, but even mild criticism of yourself leaves to "banning" (a South African "apartheid" term). I could understand it if you banned someone who called you names or insulted you although many other bloggers can live with that also, (neither of which I have done,) but you also threatened to ban me because I said the Palestinians don't want a state.
Jews have a long history of argumentation going back to the Bible (e.g. Avraham's argument with G-d's intention to destroy Sedom) and Talmud, but Jewish extremists of all ideologies and religious trends seen to have a propensity to try to silence their opponents. You have all sorts of invisible red-lines that no one can know in advance that raise your ire, so I don't how you can expect there to be any sort of dialogue. It is NOT a crime to tell someone that he is wrong, which I think you are sometimes, and you have the right to say the same to me. The point is to bring proof one one's claims.
You, in your posting had in the first line of your blog posting said something like "The ugly face of Israeli hate speech". You are WRONG in claiming that Israel is permeated with this. Mentioning a group of 20 people coming to Goldstein's grave does not prove that Israel is permeated with this. As I pointed out to you on your blog site, the Kahanists are a tiny minority of the Judea/Samaria settlers. Even most of the Jews of Kiryat Arba/Hevron oppose them.
I again challenge you to go onto the web sites of the main "right-wing/pro-settler" organs, i.e. B'Sheva, Arutz 7 and Makor Rishon and find a SINGLE CASE where anyone says it is permitted for individuals to harm Arabs. I again repeat that an MK's call "to string up Azmi Bashara" is not to be extrapolated to being considered a call for Israelis to assault Arabs. No reasonable person in the world would think it is.
I pointed out that 2 of the 3 cases of Jewish violence against Arabs or political opponents (Yigal Amir's involvement in the murder of Rabin)which you cited occurred more than a dozen years ago (odd that you can't remember any more recent ones-there were one or two), but since then there have been hundreds of murderous assaults on Jews by individual Arabs (a couple of months ago an 18 year-old Jewish girl was murdered as she walked near an Arab village-did you comment upon that incident?).
As a matter of fact, Yigal Amir was not involved with the Kahanists, his closest influence was a SHABAK agent provocateur who, in front of hundreds of witnesses called on Amir to kill Rabin--see the official Shamgar Commission Report on the Rabin Assassination.
Meanwhile, official Palestinian organs encourage violence against Jews. It is THEIR society that is permeated with a violent death-cult, as is well documented by those who follow the Palestinian media. The Imam of the Gaza Mosque said IN ARAFAT'S PRESENCE that it is incumbent on "good" Muslims to kill Jews. Mike Wallace, on the TV show "60 Minutes" showed this clip to Arafat. Arafat said "he didn't hear it". Those are the facts.
May 18, 2007 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Although not directly connected to the theme of this thread, the following is relevant to the overall Arab/Israeli conflict:
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Here is an article from the Jerusalem Post indicating a point I have been making for a long time...the Palestinians not only are not capapble of running a state, they do not even want one.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1178708629639&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
[Unforunately I have tried unsuccesfully to paste this into the URL line-it complains about an error. The article is on Friday's Jerusalem Post and it is by Herb Keinon. He says many Palestinians do not want to set up a state, forcing Israel to control Judea/Samaria/Gaza which they believe would be bad for Israel]
I strongly disagree with the conclusion the writer made, that this "collapse" of the Palestinian authority is a bad thing. On the contrary, the only possible outcome is basically a continuation of the current situation in Judea/Samaria....Arabs running their own municipalities, with Israel maintaining overall security control and maintaining Jewish communities in the area.
I do not believe that Israeli control of Judea/Samaria (and Gaza in the future, as current events seem to indicate) will bring about Israel's "implosion". The Arabs will eventually realize this is the best deal they can get. Once cooperation is increased and the security situation improves, the roadblocks will be lifted, transport links will open up and economic activity will be increased. The Palestinian economic situation will not improve until the parasitic "Palestinian Authority" is dismantled because it is sucking the blood out of the Palestinian population with its bloated "security forces" grabbing much of the aid money that is flowing in to them. The Palestinian economy is also being stifled by corrupt monopolies that were beholden to Arafat's gangster rule.
The Arabs will eventually realize this is the best deal they can get. The Israeli Arabs, when hearing of Avigdor Lieberman's policy to transfer soveriegnity of some Israeli Arabs towns to Palestinian control ,
protested VEHEMENTLY. Similarly, Judea/Samaria Arabs are clamoring to come live under Israeli rule in Jerusalem.
Thus, I think the Arabs of Judea/Samaria and Gaza are closer to realizing my scenario as best for them than many people think.
May 18, 2007 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I merely referred to the fact that I'd banned BarKochba from commenting at my blog & of course, being the wild-eyed fanatic that he is he has to fight the battle all over again despite the fact that it isn't at all relevant to this post.
Suffice to say that anyone interested in reading the post in question and comment thread can find it here.
I don't "silence my opponents" at my blog unless they call me a "Jewish extremist" or say (about the recent murder of a Palestinian taxi driver in an act of Jewish terror) I get "masochistic thrills every time some isolated event like this happens to that they can see see how rotten we Jews are! .
Richard Silverstein
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May 19, 2007 2:30 AM | Reply | Permalink