We, the people, can bitch, moan and complain all we want and it will not make one penny's difference. Look anywhere on the web and you'll find an over abundance of sites that do nothing but reveal right wing lies and treachery. Go to the comments section of those sites and there is no shortage of rage, frustration, expressions of betrayal by the Obama Administration, and rightly so. We share our heartfelt feelings with each other day and night. On and on. If you want to know how progressives and liberals (I still can't figure out the difference between these two) really feel about the current environment just find the comments section on any liberal blog. Recently, you will also find a curious uptick in right wing, conservative, extremist viewpoints mixed in as well.

Those are devilishly worded in such a way as to infuriate, divide and muddle the debate going on at the moment, with disappointing success. Personally I feel simply ignoring those obvious plants rather than replying with a off topic angry rebuttal would be very effective at dwindling their increasing numbers. I took notice on several of the comment sections of liberal blogs and articles about the right wing orchestrated Van Jones non-flap. I found that the infiltration of what I call "Planted Comments" almost equaled comments made by people expressing thoughtful views, pro and con, but none the less attempted to be constructive. Every time a "planted" comment would appear, it was replied to by infuriated liberals so often it took away from any semblance of the intended debate, over and over again. Objective achieved.

But more to the point, all this is occurring amongst ourselves. The true ferocity of liberal outrage goes no further than the comments section and maybe a few hundred emails from the more activist of us to congresspersons, advertisers, etc.

It's classic "Choir singing to the Choir" along with the arguably minimal effect of those emails. The truth in the basis of our outrage does not go out to the millions of ordinary people we want to think we are reaching. Hoping that the simple logic and rationale of our argument will have an positive impact against the onslaught of the "Twilight Zone" trash being widely spoken, written and broadcast by an unfair, dishonest mainstream media. You know, the media that's actually consumed and believed by the unintellectual, incurious masses. The truth of the matter is the liberal/progressive argument has almost no effect and the obvious reason is no one knows anything about our side of the debate, at least not any true or accurate presentation.

Until we figure out a way to weasel in on the locked and blocked public discourse that is now dominated completely by deranged talkshow hosts, lying corrupt politicians and compliant interviewers, we will get nowhere with a progressive agenda. Nothing will be "changed." And finally we will loose our best opportunity to restore America to sanity, fairness and actual accountability for those that would destroy everything and anything to advance their narrow corporate and political playbook. A playbook that doesn't happen to include anything but gross enrichment at the people's expense and one-sided power grabs. A playbook that makes further erosion of the democratic process necessary to succeed. Civil liberties have also proven to be a petty obstacle to obliterate.

Our voice is missing as part of a fair and equal agreement. As part of the intended equation of factors involved in our democracy. As admirably, tirelessly and hard as Liberal/Progressive blogs and web sites try to initiate meaningful change and broadly effective differences in our crumbling existence, it's not enough to tilt the scales in favor of truth, honesty and a just and fair outcome. We have to do more to break the stranglehold on truth the titans of "The Mainstream Media" have stolen from America. And we must finally realize and accept the "Whatever it Takes" cornerstone attitude will work for the good guys as well. It seems to have come to that.

One more thought. We may be on our own in our efforts to enact and secure a different political discourse. A discourse not to simply to fulfill the wants and needs of the Progressive/Liberal movement. If it is honest, fair and has equal benefits for all Americans it will stand on it's own. As often stated by others, "Truth has a liberal bias."

I say 'On our own' because it seems to me the necessary push for meaningful change is not going to come from this administration despite the rhetoric, reassurances and past promises. Most of those promises have been broken or completely ignored. And the rhetoric is empty or lacking substance when applied. So it's proving to be a pretty sure bet the "Change We Can Believe In" is going to have to come from entirely within our ranks. The necessary legislation and true change of policy will have to be brought about by us being the "squeaky wheel" that gets the lubricant, so to speak. Without our loud and persistent pressure on the people that actually create the legislation, etc., nothing is going to get done. Our Senators and Representatives are going to have to feel real heat. We must assume, based on recent history, the Obama administration is disappointingly pliant. They seem to bend to the greatest amount of pressure. We must be this pressure. And it has to be more powerful than that being successfully applied by those we know in our hearts and thinking brains, is dead wrong.

I surmise it is prudent for me to clarify the following comment is my opinion, based on the novel idea of having my eyes and ears open and functioning properly.

Obama wants to preserve the "Patriot Act." To go along with indefinite detention of human beings without charges....or reason.

Obama's relentless continuation of illegal and reprehensible CheneyCo policies invented and forced upon an already suspicious, violated and Bush-weary America is quite simply more proof that Obama is yet another "Company Man." The first problem with all this "terrorist" hogwash is if these people are not military combatants then why is the military even involved to begin with. If they are denied constitutional, military, treaty guaranteed basic rights, the military has no "right" or legal authority to kill, capture and throw them into black holes. Terrorists, hunting them down, capturing or killing them or any other action should be a civil authority action. If they are committing criminal, rather than military descriptive actions, our armed forces have no business or moral authority to combat them on a worldwide scale. An international police agency such as Interpol, in conjunction with our own FBI would seem like the proper agencies to conduct any enforcement actions against them. Having or seeking to aquire heretofore illegal, or in many cases invented, policies to be sanctioned by civil legalities is an oxymoron at best. Any basis, no matter how massively misconstrued by this government, is idiotic, dangerous, immoral and against all of humanities guiding principles. Even the description of them being "Terrorists" is debatable. But that's a whole 'nuther story.

For Obama and his gang to first preach the obvious (On the Senate Floor!); That these actions from the get go are illegal, counter productive and repugnant. Then in rapid-fire expedience repeatedly continue, embrace and vigorously defend those, even extend the scope, at first makes Obama an unapologetic liar. But even worse, makes it obvious he is not the honest, principled, constitutionally savvy person he professed (or pretended) to be.With each passing day Obama is proving himself to be a rather dark-hearted, conniving hypocrite. It would appear he is not the master of his Presidency but indeed being instructed in his policies by the same dark forces that have engineered our foreign policy for the past several decades. Not to mention banking policy, steady degradation of civil liberties and maybe even the policies, rules and regulations that are supposed to protect our health and well being.

I dare say no U.S. President, since JFK, would or could go against the now firmly entrenched "Military-Industrial Complex" that has without a doubt taken over the United States of America. With the willing complicity of an equaling corrupt Media mechanism, now conveiniently consolidated into the hands of a few dark-hearted mega corporations. The truth is actually far, far more insidious than military and corporate entities taking control. With the ultimate goal of intentionally infuriating an uncooperative Muslim people. Forcing them to fight to retain and regain what is rightfully theirs. Then destroying them as a formidable and final obstacle to unbelievable ends. The intentional unjust confrontation and eventual decimation of Islam has been going on for a very long time. They have, as a people, refused to fall in line with "The Program."

Even with planted dictators, being setup and blamed for the many of the orchestrated horrors that occur in the world, the Muslim people have bravely stood by their beliefs and way of life. This in spite of being repeatedly assaulted by powerful forces determined to have control and ownership of the world totally consolidated into the greedy, megalomaniacal hands of a predetermined few. Most of the people in the world have long ago been brainwashed into wrongly believing the Muslim nations and people are and have been responsible for much of the conflict and discord in the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. This could only be true if it is wrong to defend oneself from unjust aggression, theft of one's land and mass murder of one's people with virtually no attempt by the rest of the world to learn the truth or even care, for that matter.

As far as I can see, this is what is actually behind these "in your face" humiliations, false accusations and atrocities being hurled at Muslim nations. These kind of barbaric and inhuman detentions, invasions and theft of lands and treasures are by evil, meticulously thought out design. Mr. Obama is disappointingly just the latest in a continuation of infamous enablers for the hidden powers that are pulling the strings of their puppets. here and in other countries around the world. Trying their patience is the refusal by Muslims to be forcibly homogenized into part of the recipe.