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	<title>Purple State recommended No Direction vs. Wrong Direction by Purple State</title>
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	<title>Purple State recommended A reminder for gloating Republicans  by David Seaton</title>
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		    <title>Purple State Commented on A reminder for gloating Republicans  by David Seaton</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-05T12:30:40Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The Republicans know how to turn an ambiguous result into a victory. What they'll do is keep appearing on TV and confidently saying that they won and the Democrats lost. They'll repeat this so often and with such conviction that people will start to believe them. And once people start to believe them, they really will have won, because what really counts isn't who actually won or lost but who is perceived to have won or lost. </p>

<p>Democrats, meanwhile, will fret and act nervous, enhancing the public's perception that they are weak and losers. And of course, the perception will become reality, as the Democrats continue to drift and waver and generally look scared of the Republicans.</p>

<p>It's really all so predictable, isn't it?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Purple State Commented on Moral of the story, Democrats need to be Democrats by JohnRove</title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-05T12:21:13Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>What Americans want more than anything is a strong, smart leader who can set a clear, sensible path toward restored prosperity and keep us moving briskly along that path. Right now our two parties are terribly flawed:</p>

<p>The Democrats still can't define a clear path toward anything</p>

<p>The Republicans have defined a clear path, but it's the same path that got us into the mess in the first place</p>

<p>So you can pick the party without direction or you can pick the party headed in the wrong direction. Sadly, Obama is failing at leading. He's a good talker, but he needs to state his policy goals more firmly and get the Democrats to follow him in lock step. If he can't do that, the Democrats will continue to fail to win the confidence of the American people and the Republicans will win just because they seem to have direction, even if it's the wrong direction.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Purple State Commented on What Happened Tonight by Jon Taplin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I'd argue that the Wall Street bailout was Obama's finest moment. True, many hate the idea that these greedy financial corporations were propped up with taxpayer dollars. But at least Obama looked like a decisive leader during the bailout. Post-bailout, Obama has looked weak and ineffectual. His inability to set a clear path toward health care reform and rein in the Democratic party has hurt him. Combine this with a confusing policy in Afghanistan and no strong agenda in other areas and he starts to look like a lightweight. I love his intelligence and his values, but the guy is starting to drift. He's got to get focused or his Presidency is headed the way of the Carter Presidency. Best intentions . . . no results . . . no second term.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Purple State Commented on Hillary Praises Neyanyahu Peace Moves While  Democratic House To Pass Resolution Defending Israel&apos;s Actions in Gaza War on Tuesday by M.J. Rosenberg]]></title>
		        
			<published>2009-11-01T12:15:08Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p><i>The good news is that J Street is opposed to it.</i></p>

<p>But it seems that AIPAC and its friends walk all over J Street.</p>

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		    <title>Purple State Commented on Why Did We Pressure Palestinians To Deep Six Goldstone Report? by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The whole canard that the Israelis have no negotiating partner is debunked! Abbas is exactly the partner they want!</p>]]>
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		    <title>Purple State Commented on What If Iran Offers To Trade Its Nuclear Program For End To Israeli Occupation by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>People like you and Elder are in the business of deluding yourselves. If you want to take on the Israel-first crowd, get real and support BDS.  There are many "misconceptions" that need debunking. The first, though, is your own that anything can change without serious pressure being brought against Israel. </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The silliest thing about this proposition is believing that Iran will give up something of great value to the Iranian nation in exchange for Israel doing something good for non-Iranian Palestinians. The Iranians may have sympathy for the Palestinian cause, but they are not going to give up something that they believe is valuable to their nation to help a different people, no matter how much they support that different people. It's as if the US would offer to give up its nuclear program if only the Castro brothers were to step down.</p>

<p>This kind of delusion is only possible if one thinks of all Middle Eastern Muslim-majority nations as one undifferentiated mass. <i>"You know, who can tell them apart? They all look alike . . . "</i>  It's also possible only if one's obsession with all things Israel has elevated the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to a significance it simply doesn't have to anyone but Jews and Palestinians. The rest of the world (including the Iranians) may have a horse in the race, but the stakes aren't really that high. It's absurd to think that any country will sacrifice anything of significance to solve a problem that affects it only marginally.</p>

<p>If MJ really wants to end the occupation, he should support BDS. BDS worked with South Africa and it might work against the Israeli equivalent of apartheid. But if MJ is unwilling to unequivocally condemn what Israel is doing and support sanctions against Israel, he's merely a silly eunuch, whining endlessly at an unnaturally high pitch.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Purple State Commented on Correcting Jeff Goldberg On Gaza &amp; Jeff Responds  by M.J. Rosenberg]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Maybe some careless wording on my part AG--what I meant to say was that the Arab states aren't responsible for the Palestinians <i>becoming<i> refugees or even for them remaining refugees. It is Israel that refused and continues to refuse to allow the people to return to their land--and as long as they are not allowed to return they remain refugees. What's completely disingenuous about Goldberg's statement is that he puts the blame for the Palestinians' status solely on the Arab states for not resettling them, ignoring the very obvious fact that the <i>primary</i> reason the Palestinians are refugees is because they have not been allowed to return to their homes since they fled the fighting or were driven out during the fighting.  And it is Israel and only Israel that has prevented them from returning. </i></i></p>

<p>Certainly, Israel would love it if the children of Palestinian refugees lost their refugee status under international law (as is usually the case). But the international community has recognized that this is an unusual case, in which Israel has refused to recognize its obligation to allow the refugees to return, and has therefore ruled that the descendants of the original refugees remain refugees and retain the right to return or at least be compensated for their loss. Goldberg may not like that, but the law is what it is, and the Palestinians truly are refugees under international law and Israel ultimately is responsible for their status as refugees.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Purple State Commented on Rahm: Pressuring Israelis and Palestinians Is As Much For Us As For Them by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2009-09-26T12:46:36Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Maybe the wisest thing yet said in response to an MJ post.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Purple State Commented on Correcting Jeff Goldberg On Gaza &amp; Jeff Responds  by M.J. Rosenberg]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The most bizarre thing in in the Goldberg quotes that MJ reports is this:</p>

<p><i>They [the residents of Gaza] are only considered 'refugees' because the Arab states have refused to resettle them or build them permanent housing. </i></p>

<p>Actually, they are considered refugees because <i> Israel </i> has refused to let them return to their homes in territory controlled by Israel. The Arab states are not responsible for people who have become refugees because of Israeli policies.</p>

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		    <title>Purple State Commented on Obama Tells UN He Is Determined To End Israeli Occupation by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
			<published>2009-09-23T16:56:01Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Obama will surely get the Israelis and Palestinians to implement the two state solution just as soon as he gets the Republicans and Democrats to implement his health care plan. </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Purple State Commented on Israel-Palestine: Obama Wants &quot;Final Status&quot; Negotiations Now by M.J. Rosenberg]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>The idea that anything will ever change without serious sanctions against Israel is preposterous. What possible motive would Israel have for changing a policy that allows it to continue to appropriate Palestinian land and marginalize its Arab population? Israel's goal is to maximize its land and minimize its Arabs. The long term plan is to settle most of the good Palestinian lands and then create some kind of unsustainable Bantustan on marginal land for the Arabs, with the hope that over time the impoverished, demoralized Palestinians will emigrate to Arab countries. This is clearly Israel's plan and it's working fabulously well.  Why would Israel change a thing without some kind of pressure from the international community? The reality is blatantly obvious, but we have a bunch of babbling fools here who like to delude themselves into thinking that the "peace process" and "roadmap" are something more than a convenient cover for an Israeli government that wants to maintain what it sees as a highly desirable status quo but knows that projecting an image of wanting change is essential to keeping the international community at bay. </p>

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		    <title>Purple State Commented on Flash:  Israel Announces Settlement Expansion As First Step Toward Settlement Freeze by M.J. Rosenberg</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>One other minor point: AIPAC doesn't really control US foreign policy, but it (and other pro-Israeli groups) do significantly affect our policy toward Israel-Palestine in particular and to the Middle East in general. I don't think there's much we can do to change that. The pro-Israeli groups are highly motivated to the point of obsession and are willing to spend untold hours and dollars to advance their agenda. The rest of us are busy with other things and just don't care enough to get in the way of that runaway train.  </p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I don't think any of this will lead to nuclear war, but the rest of your analysis is spot on. The "peace process" and the "two-state solution" and the "roadmap" are just charades that the Israelis now use as cover for their fairly obvious policy of taking as much land as possible while keeping the local Arabs in miserable conditions. The goal is really twofold: First, grab as much land as possible without angering the international community. Second, continue with checkpoints and blockades and other restrictions until the average Palestinian is so demoralized he decides to take his family and leave for some more hospitable territory.  The Israelis seem willing to pursue this strategy for decades, even centuries. And since the rest of the world either doesn't care or is willing to be duped, I assume the strategy will work.  <br />
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Business as usual, MJ, and more evidence, I think, that the two-state solution is stinking corpse. </p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Purple State Commented on Obama&apos;s Big Question by Jon Taplin]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>How ungenerous of you Dan! Have you forgotten how, over the past three decades, the Republicans went out of their way to bend over backwards to accommodate "Democrat" ideas and be bipartisan? Don't you understand that that's exactly how they maintained their hegemony for all that time--by reaching out and listening to the liberals and making compromises with them? Don't you understand that, as soon as the Republicans are back in power--which looks like it will be much sooner than anyone expected--they will again reach out in the same way to ensure Democrats feel included and listened to?  Don't you remember Attwater and Rove and Luntz and all the others who worked so hard to seek Democratic support for everything they did? Well, even if you've forgotten, Axelrod and Obama haven't. In fact, they're clearly ready to go even further than the Republicans did and turn the whole government back over to the Republicans just as soon as they are comfortable that that's what the polls and FOX news tell them the American people want.</p>

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