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		    <title><![CDATA[Plus Ultra Commented on &quot;You Ain&apos;t Seen Nothin&apos; Yet!&quot; by Chuck Keller]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>So PTSD is caused by the military pursuit of immoral aims? Right away we have a problem because not everyone will agree all military pursuits are immoral. Should we figure military service entails PTSD if the victim thinks his or her service involved immoral pursuits?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Mumbai changes the playing field  by David Seaton</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-30T10:32:53Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>There's no risk of a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. These are local rivals with a history of confrontation, but that's all there is to it. India now accuses Pakistan because it caught a Pakistani among the terrorists, India should be accusing Britain with twice the energy since twice as many of the terrorists have been identified as coming from Britain. But India knows Britain isn't training terrorists to attack them and they think Pakistan does.</p>

<p>Pakistan does have a problem with how its peprceived, particularly by India. The relationship between Pakistani military intelligence and terrorist groups is unclear. In the past they've cooperated, some think they still do, despite US involvement and pursuit of terrorists. I doubt Pakistan is openly supporting and cooperating in US efforts against Islamic terrorists and at the same time maintaining secret ties through its intelligence apparatus to support those terrorists. This would have to be the case if India was right.</p>

<p>The attacks in Mumbai were perpetrated by terrorists who operated out of territory ostensibly under Pakistani control, but that's as far as it goes. Pakistan doesn't have the capacity to prevent terrorists from training in that territory because it is remote, inaccesible and deployments there are challenged not just by the terrorists, but by India itself.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Obama Transition Asks:  What concerns you most about Health Care? by TheraP</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-30T10:08:22Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I don't know of a first world industrialized nation where people seeking universalized free access health care find it completely adequate and satisfactory. What do the French or Germans say about their medical services, how about Britain? I suppose if you compare health care in different developed economies some have better systems and apparently the US doesn't provide as much as some other places, but I haven't heard all this praise for the EU's medical services. In Spain they've got a fairly good health care system with the latest technology and plenty of doctors, but workers find a third of their salaries deducted in taxes. Would this be the prescription for the US?</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Plus Ultra Commented on &quot;You Ain&apos;t Seen Nothin&apos; Yet!&quot; by Chuck Keller]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-30T09:57:14Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>PTSD is a "condition" with no specific symptoms, its whatever the purported victim says it is, there are no visible injuries, its something treated by psychologists and having to do with how it makes those affected "feel". Ostensibly everyone who saw action suffers from PTSD, the ones who don't admit symptoms are simply in denial.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Plus Ultra Commented on Message from Dad: Obama&apos;s Okay by Desidero]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-30T02:31:33Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"by the time Obama leaves the White House, all future presidents will be judged based on their ability to rise above the politics of the two parties"</p>

<p>Unadulterated baloney, what on earth would make anyone think Obama's post-electoral conduct in any way suggests the slightest inclination to rise above the politics of the 2 parties? Give us a single example showing he intends to accomodate conservative concerns.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Plus Ultra Commented on Message from Dad: Obama&apos;s Okay by Desidero]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-30T02:17:32Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>All this pap for Obama has me sick, I'd expect the natural anti-establishmentarian opposition to speak up more. Obama got elected, he deserves some solid patriotic support but what happened to the "critical" in the left?</p>

<p>Why aren't I finding posters concerned over Obama's apparent inclination to keep troops in Iraq twice as long as he promised? How come critical lefties aren't complaining about his unwillingness to endorse huge tax hikes on millionaires right away?</p>

<p>I'll let it slide for now, but once he gets installed I expect to hear some noises from those lefties.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Obama Transition Asks:  What concerns you most about Health Care? by TheraP</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-30T01:57:08Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>What concerns me is the cost, I wonder how a nation of educated hypochondriacs will respond to unlimited universal health care or any lack in either its unlimitedness or universality.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I think this PTSD stuff is pure baloney, expect soldiers to "buck up", they are going to war and one sees dead bodies and maimed people in those, I'm sure its in the job description. </p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on We Get Mediocrity. Now Search For Excellence! by jdwolverton</title>
		        
			<published>2008-11-29T18:50:06Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I don't think the automakers executives should be trying to secure a bailout by promoting any sort of development politicians in Washington want. Consider the opprobious SUVs. Apparently these were good sellers, lots of people bought them, making them was a sound business practice. However politically these aren't attractive, politicians pursuing Obama's goals would want smaller, cheaper and more fuel efficient cars developed -would they sell as well?</p>

<p>Should automakers be going to Washington with their tin cups to agree on plans to develop public transportation, cars powered with alternative energy, more environmentally-sensitive vehicles? This would be more politically attractive, but its a business that's being rescued, the product should be what the market demands -not what is politically appealing in some perspective.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Barack lets the dog out by Ron McCrea</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Amusing, I like how Obama accurately went to the core of the issue, he wants a conventional big rambuctious dog, not a small girly, yappy lap dog.</p>

<p>I hope he deals with the matters of state the same way, get to the primary concern, identify the specifics and specify what he wants.</p>

<p>Whether he should be getting the dog HE wants when its a prize for his GIRLS is another matter.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Plus Ultra Commented on Message from Dad: Obama&apos;s Okay by Desidero]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>We talked about Obama at my brother's house on Thanksgiving, about half of us concerned he was shapping up into Clinton revisited and the rest hopeful he could strengthen his political control and pursue whatever policies without much compromise.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on The Troubled Asset Relief Program by Dana Chasin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I worry the government's acquisition of shares in rescued banks will result in political considerations guiding commercial institutions and that this will make banks less profitable.</p>

<p>I wonder whether loans to businesses pursuing things the government wants to promote like health care or environmental protection, those establishing themselves in impoverished areas or to serve more needy markets, will get loans more easily to further political goals despite the greater risk and difficulty such businesses likely will face.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Korea, Madagascar, and Nouveau Colonialism by ☠enghis</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>>"Daewoo is leasing (for free?)"</p>

<p>No, you can't "lease" for nothing, some value must be offered in exchange, otherwise its some sort of tresspass. In the note above it says Dewoo is spending $6 billion over 20 years. If your billions are of a thousand millions, that comes to $300 million per year for the $1.3 million hectares. However its also noted these expenditures include infrastructural investment to build roads, harbours, schools, hospitals, etc. Presumably infrastructural investment will diminish after those first 20 years, but its not clear what portion of the $6 billion is for the actual leases and this portion would be what Daewoo likely would be paying once they've done the infrastructural stuff.</p>

<p>>home to an biologically unique ecosystem</p>

<p>Everywhere is home to a biologically unique ecosystem, toxic waste dumps in New Jersey and pristine coral reefs alike. Madagascar, due to its insularity will host a variety of flora and fauna not found elsewhere, but this is true of many islands like Australia, New Zealand, Sumatra...</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Change What? by ☠enghis</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I suspect those who thought Obama would substantially change things will be disappointed. His cabinet is full of Clinton retreads so I'd expect Clintonian policies. This talk of bipartisanship is baloney, Obama hasn't done much to reach across any aisles yet (aside from that photo op with defeated McCain). I'll wait for him to take the reins, but don't expect much innovation. Obama will catter to every lefty with a wish list. Universal health care, abortion, gay rights, non-intervention, global warming and a generally socialistic approach will pervade whatever emanates from the new administration.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on $7,400,000,000,000 by Emma Zahn</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I like the notion simply ending intervention in Iraq will more than adequately fund whatever expenditures are needed to fix the economy, I think its silly though.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Letter to a Prop 8 supporter by IT</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"homosexuality is a normal human variation, not unlike red hair or left-handedness"</p>

<p>"the science is clear, the medical profession is clear, and it really takes willful disbelief to refuse to acknowledge it."</p>

<p>So its an innate characteristic and not an acquired trait?</p>

<p>If its innate there's no risk someone without the condition would become gay, nor any chance children who lacked the trait would become homosexual emulating the conduct of adoptive gay parentage.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on 2.5 million jobs..................MY ASS! by theone718</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I agree, it will take at least 4 million workers to build all the things critical lefties want by 2011. Start with all those hospitals to provide universal free health care with the finest technology for everyone, and don't forget the thousands of free abortion clinics for minors can get this done without parental consent, then there will be countless also free daycare centers so every woman with a child can go to work and have the kids nearby, plus all those wonderful headstart schools which have been so successful, job retraining institutes to transfer skills to the obsolete blue collared workers so they can become proficient in the emerging high tech industry making all those toxic batteries for 'green' cars, thousands of drug rehab centers to provided much needed treatment for urban youths, a massive new high speed rail system for bullet trains, tremendous upgrades at all harbours to effectively scrutinize all containers shipped in and a huge fortified border with watchtowers, sycnchronized camera guided machine-guns to mow down anything that triggers the motion detectors along the dangerous Mexican border. </p>]]>
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		    <title>Plus Ultra Commented on Great Lakes Wind Power: Problems and Promise by Hugh Bartling</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I heard about those "rolling brownouts" in California a few years ago, but was unaware of the "Cascading failures that take entire chunks of the nation down".</p>

<p>I've heard these croppings of wind turbines described as "tax farms" because they produce writeoffs rather than much else, is it actually profitable to operate a wind turbine after deducting the cost of these monumental propellers, getting them installed and whatever technology is involved in transmitting the energy generated?</p>

<p>I like the idea and don't think the turbines are uggly or a blight on the landscape, wouldn't be concerned with shipping as they are quite high and I've seen pictures of them with ships passing along side. The environmental impact is negligible, the blades don't turn that fast and birds would avoid them.</p>]]>
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