<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
   <title>Petey&apos;s Blog</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/" />
   <link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/atom.xml" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2009:/talk/blogs/petey2005//12400</id>
   <updated>2009-04-10T00:12:04Z</updated>
   
   <generator uri="http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/">Movable Type Pro 4.21-en</generator>


<entry>
   <title>Finally</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/2009/04/finally.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2009:/talk/blogs/petey2005//12400.265372</id>
   
   <published>2009-04-10T00:11:17Z</published>
   <updated>2009-04-10T00:12:04Z</updated>
   
   <summary>TPM covers state secrets debacle....</summary>
   <author>
      <name>Petey</name>
      
   </author>
   
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/">
      <![CDATA[<p>TPM covers <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/expert_consensus_obama_aping_bush_on_state_secrets.php?ref=fp1">state secrets</a> debacle. </p>
]]>
      

   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>Dead On</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/2009/04/dead-on.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2009:/talk/blogs/petey2005//12400.265269</id>
   
   <published>2009-04-09T15:18:46Z</published>
   <updated>2009-04-09T15:40:54Z</updated>
   
   <summary>From indie cartoonist Terrence Nowicki today: (Click for big)...</summary>
   <author>
      <name>Petey</name>
      
   </author>
   
   <category term="585" label="bush" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17819" label="cartoons" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="1036" label="cheney" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17820" label="nowicki" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="15" label="obama" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17755" label="wiretaps" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/">
      <![CDATA[<p>From indie cartoonist <a href="http://thisishistorictimes.com">Terrence Nowicki</a> today: </p>

<p><a href="http://thisishistorictimes.com/2009/04/all-the-better-to-hear-you-with/"><img src="http://thisishistorictimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/editorial_20090409.gif" width="400" height="275"> </a></p>

<p>(Click for big)</p>
]]>
      

   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>More thoughts on DOJ v. Jewel</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/2009/04/more-thoughts-on-doj-v-jewel.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2009:/talk/blogs/petey2005//12400.265161</id>
   
   <published>2009-04-08T20:11:29Z</published>
   <updated>2009-04-08T20:19:35Z</updated>
   
   <summary><![CDATA[Of course, I'm not just blaming TPM for what Obama has done. There's plenty to go around. For those of you who aren't aware of what's going down, here is a basic rundown:&nbsp;Yesterday, the Obama administration submitted a motion to...]]></summary>
   <author>
      <name>Petey</name>
      
   </author>
   
   <category term="585" label="bush" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17750" label="jewel" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="15" label="obama" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17755" label="wiretaps" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/">
      <![CDATA[Of course, I'm not just blaming TPM for what Obama has done. There's plenty to go around. For those of you who aren't aware of what's going down, here is a basic rundown:&nbsp;<div><br /></div><div><a href="http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/04/05">Yesterday</a>,
the Obama administration submitted a <a href="http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/jewel/jewelmtdobama.pdf">motion to dismiss</a> in the case <i><a href="http://www.eff.org/cases/jewel">Jewel v.
NSA</a>.</i><span style="font-style:normal"> In 2008 the Electronic Frontier
Foundation--a digital civil liberties organization--brought </span><i>Jewel</i><span style="font-style:normal"> in order to try to halt the widespread warrantless
wiretapping allegedly conducted by the Bush administration on American
citizens.</span></div><div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal">Despite
Obama's campaign promises of renewed transparency and accountability in the
executive, his Department of Justice's motion did not withdraw the "state
secrets" defense promulgated by the Bush administration. In fact, it reiterated
and then <i><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/06/obama/index.html">expanded</a></i><span style="font-style:normal"> the argument, citing
"sovereign immunity" and claiming that the PATRIOT Act bars </span><i>any</i><span style="font-style:normal"> lawsuits of </span><i>any</i><span style="font-style:
normal"> kind against government wiretapping programs unless the government
"willfully discloses" the intercepted material. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">To
be sure, a public promise by the Obama administration declaring never to leak
recordings of one's phone sex to CNN Headline News is<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">&nbsp; </span>somewhat comforting. But it is a cold comfort, barren of
credibility, credulity, and meaningfulness.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">The
inauguration this January past was a legitimate <i>cause célèbre</i><span style="font-style:normal">. We have reason to be proud of our new leader, who,
by all accounts and appearances, is a thoughtful, intelligent, and diplomatic
gentleman. Americans, especially Americans who voted for him, may be inclined
to trust and support Obama, as he seems the consummate professional, especially
when compared to his predecessor. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">But
the man matters not. The problems with warrantless wiretapping are not
personal, they are structural. Were Christ Himself to descend from the Heavens,
with manna in one hand and a wiretap in the other, a prudent public would still
recoil. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Wiretaps
are indispensable tools in this electronic age. A total ban would deafen our
defenses when we need to listen the most closely. Moreover, it is important
that the executive branch be given great latitude to act in the nation's
defense. Agility is a necessary condition for prevention, especially when the
enemy is so fleet of foot. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">But
none of these general principles can be extended to justify these exceptional
claims. The structural separation between the branches was codified in the
Constitution for a reason. The FISA Court--a body of magistrates with security
clearances charged with approving warrants for wiretaps--is hardly an unfair
standard of review to require. Of the nearly 20,000 requests made since 1978,
only five were rejected for insufficient cause. Is it too much to require that
the government seek the easy approval of this profligate Court before invading
the privacy of millions of innocent Americans? <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Some
proponents of warrantless wiretapping--perhaps including some newly<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>converted Obama supporters--argue that
there is nothing wrong with these wiretaps as long as you have "nothing to
hide", and that if you do, you don't deserve the protections of privacy anyway.
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">But
this excuse misses the point. The problem with warrantless wiretaps is not
whether or not one has something to hide. The problem is that one branch of the
government can do something that cannot be checked by any coequal branch,
eliminating the carefully constructed Constitutional provisions of our
Founders. The problem is that state surveillance has deleterious effects your
liberty even if you have nothing to hide. If a police officer stood ceaselessly at your side while you were on your phone with your grandmother, your behavior would doubtlessly change, even if you were talking about nothing but knitting.&nbsp;</p><p class="MsoNormal">As the privacy theorists Daniel Solove and James Rachels (among others) have written, privacy protects the intimacy required to live life as we want to live it. Wiretapping wrecks not only this, but also the structure of oversight that both limits government power and (perhaps more importantly) the empowering autonomy that comes from being able to control who hears what you say.&nbsp;</p><p class="MsoNormal">Liberty and privacy are both sides of the same coin. Both are implicated here. Bush hacked away at them with an axe. We all thought Obama was going to come in and fix it, but instead he took one look and, in his perfectly practical way, decided a chainsaw would be more effective instead.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">The
damage done by warrantless wiretaps is the same no matter who is listening.
President Obama won his support partly on the promise of a new era of
responsible governance. He would do well to reconsider this motion if he wishes
to keep it.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<!--EndFragment-->


</div>]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

<entry>
   <title>Speaking of media malpractice...</title>
   <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/2009/04/speaking-of-media-malpractice.php" />
   <id>tag:tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com,2009:/talk/blogs/petey2005//12400.265157</id>
   
   <published>2009-04-08T20:00:26Z</published>
   <updated>2009-04-08T20:09:14Z</updated>
   
   <summary><![CDATA[First off, I want to point out that I'm a longtime devourer of TPM. I have an enormous amount of respect for this website and what it does.&nbsp;That said, I agree with EK, and I have sent this on to...]]></summary>
   <author>
      <name>Petey</name>
      
   </author>
   
      <category term="Muckraker" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#category" />
   
   <category term="17749" label="eff" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17750" label="jewel" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17751" label="madashellandnotgoingtotakeitanymore" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="15" label="obama" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   <category term="17752" label="wiretapping" scheme="http://www.sixapart.com/ns/types#tag" />
   
   <content type="html" xml:lang="en-us" xml:base="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/petey2005/">
      <![CDATA[<div>First off, I want to point out that I'm a longtime devourer of TPM. I have an enormous amount of respect for this website and what it does.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>That said, I agree with <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/04/counterpoint.php">EK</a>, and I have sent this on to the TPM email address to tell them so.&nbsp;Why all the focus on media malpractice? Gee, you mean the GOP and the mainstream media will spread misrepresentations and counterfactuals about Obama's defense policy? No way!!&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>This is news? Why are you focusing on this?&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>I'm angry that Obama's plan is being mischaracterized, sure. But I'm furious that the discussion is being framed, even among the lefty blogs, as if cutting military spending is a bad thing.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>And I'm Glenn-Greenwald-gibbering mad that &nbsp;TPM, ThinkProgress, DailyKos, and the rest of the blogs that played the faithful opposition during the excesses of the Bush years have been totally silent about this state secrets stuff that's coming out of the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2009/04/05">Jewel</a></span> case. This stuff should be a screaming headline on the top of every progressive blog. He not only affirmed Bush's arguments with regard to state secrets, executive privilege, and sovereign immunity, he actually extended and expanded them. Forget his flip-flop on FISA. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">The left should be crucifying Obama right now for being actually, quantifiably worse than Bush when it comes to warrantless wiretapping.&nbsp;</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"><br /></span></div><div>To put this into perspective, here was what the EFF had to say:&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia; line-height: 18px; "><blockquote style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-style: italic; font-size: 1em; "><p style="margin-top: 0.9em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This is the first time [the DOJ] claimed sovereign immunity against Wiretap Act and Stored Communications Act claims. In other words, the administration is arguing that the U.S. can&nbsp;<strong>never</strong>&nbsp;be sued for spying that violates federal surveillance statutes, whether FISA, the Wiretap Act or the SCA.</p><div><br /></div></blockquote></span></div><div>In other words, Obama is not only reiterating the Bush administration's defense of warrantless wiretapping under state secrets, he's expanding its definition of sovereign immunity to say that the government can never be sued for illegal wiretapping.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>I have two questions. First, what the fuck Obama? And second, why the hell aren't we on the left outraged about this all over our much vaunted independent alternative opposition media?&nbsp;</div>]]>
      
   </content>
</entry>

</feed>

 
