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Unease in the Conservative Imagination


Two offhand words in an overdue and deeply informed critique of one of our most influential television shows explain the appeal of the hawkish approach to the war on terror, an appeal that has superficially waned, for the moment. The words also reveal something about the populist conservative unconscious. The words are “wish fulfillment” and the article, by Jane Mayer, who did important work exposing extraordinary rendition, concerns the geopolitical thriller series “24,” which, of course, purports to be a gritty, realistic look at the quandaries of national defense in an age of apocalyptic terrorism. But this image, however seductive, is worse than merely being deeply fake, which it also is; it is misleading because it rests on a fantasy the show has helped construct that is the opposite of the truth. In this fantasy, we know exactly who the terrorists are; we need not cultivate granular knowledge of other communities and cultures to identify threats and build cooperative transcultural relationships with which to confront them. (That’s all so soft.) Instead, all we need are lots of technology and the guts to torture.

What an easier challenge that situation would present (which is not to say that torture would almost ever be acceptable, or should be legal). This premise, along with the adrenaline rush provided by the show’s perpetual air of crisis, suggests that conservative fear, even panic, about terrorism -- by themselves, feelings that at some level everyone has shared since 9/11 -- is closely mixed with fantasies of omnipotence. One figure involved with the show acknowledges that “[t]here’s definitely a political message to the show, which is that extreme measures are sometimes necessary for the greater good.” But a show that repeats this message ad nauseam is only pretending to be serious. Like horror movies in which the hero survives after secondary characters have been frighteningly killed off, “24” can be understood not as a way of grappling with troubling or complex questions but of reassuring the audience. The show does not seem to explore, for instance, the diverse tools needed in the fight, or the methodological advantages and the many more limitations of torture, or the consequences of using it for whether our troops and government will ever receive trust and acceptance in other countries with already-abused populations, and what effect those consequences will have on intelligence gathering. Executive producer Joel Surnow tells Mayer of his favorite bumper sticker: “Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism & Communism, War Has Never Solved Anything.” That’s an argument against pacifism. It’s rather less useful in accounting for results in, say, Iraq. In view of his own show’s chosen topic, terrorism, his selection of a war bumper sticker is oddly irrelevant (like the war in Iraq itself). A somewhat more relevant choice, given the show’s paranoid and torture-friendly attitudes, reveals the wishful thinking at the heart of the show: “We’re making enemies faster than we can kill them.”

Chillingly, Mayer describes the show as enormously popular among US troops in Iraq and in the administration.

(Note: Mayer's article is must reading because of how much it reveals about populist conservative attitudes. More on this in a forthcoming companion post.)


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24 is a never-ending straw man scenario, like all "ticking-bomb" fantasies.

But remember that the business of art is manipulating emotions. Surnow is kidding himself if he thinks he is accomplishing anything beyond drawing an audience for advertisers.

I'll wait until my 2/19 New Yorker arrives to read Mayer.

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Evidently, '24' had not crossed my path until today, as I was clueless about the show and it's content.

I wish I still was.

There were sixty-seven torture scenes during the first five seasons of “24”, according to The Parents’ Television Council. Laura Ingraham, the talk-radio host, has cited the show’s popularity as proof that Americans favor brutality. “They love Jack Bauer,” she noted on Fox News. “In my mind, that’s as close to a national referendum that it’s O.K. to use tough tactics against high-level Al Qaeda operatives as we’re going to get.” Meanwhile, closer to the White House, Lynne Cheney is said to be “an extreme ‘24’ fan.” (No need to wonder on what kind of bonds keep the Cheney's together.)

Who are the sponsors of a show that claims, “We love to torture terrorists—it’s good for you!” Brought to you by the nation that wonders why the terrorists hate us?


We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war. Molly Ivins (1944-2007)

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You must have missed Stirling Newberry's take on torture TV, "The 24 Houses of Borat de Sade".

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I'm reading Mayer now, and Surnow offers an approach to torture that I could live with--he says “Isn’t it obvious that if there was a nuke in New York City that was about to blow—or any other city in this country—that, even if you were going to go to jail, it would be the right thing to do?”

That "even if" is crucial. If New York was about to get nuked, jail would be, or should be, a minor worry, so go ahead and turn the screw. (Setting aside arguments about efficacy.) The arguments lately have not been about that scenario, but about taking away the jail sanction.

If our Jack Bauers are sure of themselves they will not scruple over a mere bagatelle like time in slammer. If jail worries Cheney's Dark Side forces, they may lack the necessary cojones to aspire to Bauerdom.

But there is a paradox in the 'ticking bomb" argument that only Brig. Gen. Patrick Finnegan noted: “These are very determined people, and they won’t turn just because you pull a fingernail out,” he told me. And Finnegan argued that torturing fanatical Islamist terrorists is particularly pointless. “They almost welcome torture,” he said. “They expect it. They want to be martyred.” A ticking time bomb, he pointed out, would make a suspect only more unwilling to talk. “They know if they can simply hold out several hours, all the more glory—the ticking time bomb will go off!”

The show contains this paradox and a corollary contradiction--everybody breaks (except Bauer) and CIA and military policy acknowledges this regarding its own personnel, and expects to contain the damage. But the likelihood of cooperation in the case of captured soldiers or spies does not have the approaching reward of the bomb successfully going off. This is Finnegan's point. I had not seen this argued before, and it totally blows the whole ticking-bomb argument apart.

In fact, this argument suggests that coercion only works against the the uncommitted, the uninvolved, the lowly foot soldier or accomplice. They do have something to lose, whereas the really bad guy doesn't. So how can anyone justify torture if it only works against the guys that would yield anyway?

This point needs emphasis. You wanna? Or should I?

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Tom, I had missed that other post, so thanks for pointing me to it. I think I read yesterday that the administration has asked Bauer to cut down on the torture. Lynne Cheney will be crushed.


War does not determine who is right - only who is left. Bertrand Russell

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Torture is employed in "24" less as a means to extract information (though the information obtained does simplify plotting) than as a means of demonstrating that the terrorists are cowards who lack control/agency and thus, are not to be feared (a real man, a man who is a danger to his enemies, a Stallone or a Gibson, for example, is always able to endure torture). Seemingly, that's its primary emotional draw.

Would that they were.

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Sorry to be getting back to you so late. Your point is good to a degree but the problem is that it's an overgeneralization. Torture apparently worked with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the threat of it apparently worked with the Bojinka plotters in the '90s, to cite only two real-life counterexamples. My objections, in roughly increasing order of concern, are that real ticking time bomb scenarios are exceedingy rare; that "24" does not address the damage to our perceived commitment to the rule of law and the diplomatic and intelligence consequences of the contempt in which we are and will be held as a consequence; and that the show also does not address the damage to our actual fairness to suspects caused by a readiness to use or facilitate torture (as Maher Arar and Khalid el Masri, among others, can attest). All these points are obscured in its obsessive recapitulation of ticking time bomb scenarios, which are thrilling and distracting but which have little to do with the reality of the fight against terrorism and just end up feeding atavistic and grandiose hawkish fantasies.

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Well, it was the Brig General that was arguing against torture in Mayer's piece. KSM was presumably not protecting a ticking bomb, so maybe the B.G.'s point holds. Bojinka was in planning stages, also no clock.

Perhaps it didn't make it into the online archive ( I can't find it) but there was  New Yorker article about an FBI interrogator pursuing the USS Cole bombers. The thrust of the article was how much success the Arabic-speaking interrogator had by gaining the confidence of his subject. (It turned out this sheik had also hosted a couple of 9/11 hijackers.) 

 

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