Destor ... Raised an issue . . .You may find Destor's comment posted yesterday in this thread:
"This isn't a public option because it's not open to everyone. If your employer offers you insurance, you're stuck with that. What does this do to free the millions of Americans from entrapment by the for-profit health insurance system?"
Well, if a person feels "stuck" with employer provided insurance they could always pray to get laid off or quit their job. And please take that as a tongue-in-cheek remark. Yet if you follow me here you'll see that it's not so tongue-in-cheek in the long run.
Please allow me to expand upon the point Destor raised:
To those who lose their job, and thereby become temporarily uninsured (in between jobs, etc), according to the HR 3200 mark-up they are eligible to go to the Insurance Exchange and choose a plan (either a private plan or the public option). And once they are in the "Exchange, private or public option" they can elect to remain covered by that plan even if their circumstances change (get a job and have access to employer provided insurance) and they can stay in the Exchange until they're 65 and qualify for Medicare.
This was pointed out by Maggie Mahar yesterday in her comment at HealthBeat:
I realize that many commentators have suggested that the public option will be available to only a few people.
But this just isn't true.
The uninsured, the self-employed and those who work for very small companies will be eligible to sign up. (In the first year "small companies "means 10 or fewer employees, but by the second year, it includes companies with 30 or fewer employers--a large group of workers.)
Moreover--and this is what has been overlooked, the House bill (HR 3200, which includes the most detail on the public option) makes it clear that if you are temporarily uninsured (in between jobs, etc) you are eligible to go the Insurance Exchange and choose a plan (either a private plan or the public option).
In addition--and this is very important-- even if your circumstances change (you get a job and have access to good insurance) you can stay in the Exchange until you're 65 and qualify for Medicare. (See section 202 of House Bill)
And I have provided below the section of HR 3200 that she refers to.
Note: Under subsection: (4) CONTINUING ELIGIBILITY PERMITTED-
SEC. 202. EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS.
- (a) Access to Coverage- In accordance with this
section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through
enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered
through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are
enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or other acceptable
coverage.
- (b) Definitions- In this division:
- (1) EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL- The term
`Exchange-eligible individual' means an individual who is eligible
under this section to be enrolled through the Health Insurance Exchange
in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan and, with respect to
family coverage, includes dependents of such individual.
- (2) EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE EMPLOYER- The term
`Exchange-eligible employer' means an employer that is eligible under
this section to enroll through the Health Insurance Exchange employees
of the employer (and their dependents) in Exchange-eligible health
benefits plans.
- (3) EMPLOYMENT-RELATED DEFINITIONS- The terms
`employer', `employee', `full-time employee', and `part-time employee'
have the meanings given such terms by the Commissioner for purposes of
this division.
- (c) Transition- Individuals and employers shall only
be eligible to enroll or participate in the Health Insurance Exchange
in accordance with the following transition schedule:
- (1) FIRST YEAR- In Y1 (as defined in section 100(c))--
- (A) individuals described in subsection
(d)(1), including individuals described in paragraphs (3), (4), and (5)
of subsection (d); and
- (B) smallest employers described in subsection (e)(1).
- (2) SECOND YEAR- In Y2--
- (A) individuals and employers described in paragraph (1); and
- (B) smaller employers described in subsection (e)(2).
- (3) THIRD YEAR- In Y3--
- (A) individuals and employers described in paragraph (2);
- (B) larger employers described in subsection (e)(3); and
- (C) largest employers as permitted by the Commissioner under subsection (e)(4).
- (4) FOURTH AND SUBSEQUENT YEARS- In Y4 and subsequent years--
- (A) individuals and employers described in paragraph (3); and
- (B) largest employers as permitted by the Commissioner under subsection (e)(4).
- (d) Individuals-
- (1) INDIVIDUAL DESCRIBED- Subject to the
succeeding provisions of this subsection, an individual described in
this paragraph is an individual who--
- (A) is not enrolled in coverage described in subparagraphs (C) through (F) of paragraph (2); and
- (B) is not enrolled in coverage as a
full-time employee (or as a dependent of such an employee) under a
group health plan if the coverage and an employer contribution under
the plan meet the requirements of section 312.
- For purposes of subparagraph (B), in the case of
an individual who is self-employed, who has at least 1 employee, and
who meets the requirements of section 312, such individual shall be
deemed a full-time employee described in such subparagraph.
- (2) ACCEPTABLE COVERAGE- For purposes of this division, the term `acceptable coverage' means any of the following:
- (A) QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN COVERAGE- Coverage under a qualified health benefits plan.
- (B) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE;
COVERAGE UNDER CURRENT GROUP HEALTH PLAN- Coverage under a
grandfathered health insurance coverage (as defined in subsection (a)
of section 102) or under a current group health plan (described in
subsection (b) of such section).
- (C) MEDICARE- Coverage under part A of title XVIII of the Social Security Act.
- (D) MEDICAID- Coverage for medical
assistance under title XIX of the Social Security Act, excluding such
coverage that is only available because of the application of
subsection (u), (z), or (aa) of section 1902 of such Act
- (E) MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AND
DEPENDENTS (INCLUDING TRICARE)- Coverage under chapter 55 of title 10,
United States Code, including similar coverage furnished under section
1781 of title 38 of such Code.
- (F) VA- Coverage under the veteran's health
care program under chapter 17 of title 38, United States Code, but only
if the coverage for the individual involved is determined by the
Commissioner in coordination with the Secretary of Treasury to be not
less than a level specified by the Commissioner and Secretary of
Veteran's Affairs, in coordination with the Secretary of Treasury,
based on the individual's priority for services as provided under
section 1705(a) of such title.
- (G) OTHER COVERAGE- Such other health
benefits coverage, such as a State health benefits risk pool, as the
Commissioner, in coordination with the Secretary of the Treasury,
recognizes for purposes of this paragraph.
- The Commissioner shall make determinations under this paragraph in coordination with the Secretary of the Treasury.
- (3) TREATMENT OF CERTAIN NON-TRADITIONAL
MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS- An individual who is a non-traditional
Medicaid eligible individual (as defined in section 205(e)(4)(C)) in a
State may be an Exchange-eligible individual if the individual was
enrolled in a qualified health benefits plan, grandfathered health
insurance coverage, or current group health plan during the 6 months
before the individual became a non-traditional Medicaid eligible
individual. During the period in which such an individual has chosen to
enroll in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan, the
individual is not also eligible for medical assistance under Medicaid.
- (4) CONTINUING ELIGIBILITY PERMITTED-
- (A) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in
subparagraph (B), once an individual qualifies as an Exchange-eligible
individual under this subsection (including as an employee or dependent
of an employee of an Exchange-eligible employer) and enrolls under an
Exchange-participating health benefits plan through the Health
Insurance Exchange, the individual shall continue to be treated as an
Exchange-eligible individual until the individual is no longer enrolled
with an Exchange-participating health benefits plan.
- (B) EXCEPTIONS-
- (i) IN GENERAL- Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an individual once the individual becomes eligible for coverage--
- (I) under part A of the Medicare program;
- (II) under the Medicaid program as a Medicaid eligible individual, except as permitted under paragraph (3) or clause (ii); or
- (III) in such other circumstances as the Commissioner may provide.
- (ii) TRANSITION PERIOD- In the case
described in clause (i)(II), the Commissioner shall permit the
individual to continue treatment under subparagraph (A) until such
limited time as the Commissioner determines it is administratively
feasible, consistent with minimizing disruption in the individual's
access to health care.
- (5) ADVERSELY AFFECTED RETIREE HEALTH BENEFITS GROUP PARTICIPANTS AND BENEFICIARIES-
- (A) IN GENERAL- Beginning in Y1, an
individual who is a participant or beneficiary in an adversely affected
retiree health benefits group who does not have coverage described in
paragraph (2)(C) is an Exchange eligible individual, whether or not
such an individual has other acceptable coverage.
- (B) ADVERAGE AFFECTED RETIREE HEALTH BENEFIT
GROUP DEFINED- In this paragraph, the term `adversely affected retiree
health benefits group' means the retired participants and their
beneficiaries of a group health plan that cancelled or substantially
reduced the amount, type, level, or form of health benefit or option
provided prior January 1, 2008.
- (e) Employers-
- (1) SMALLEST EMPLOYERS- Subject to paragraph
(5), smallest employers described in this paragraph are employers with
15 or fewer employees.
- (2) SMALLER EMPLOYERS- Subject to paragraph (5),
smaller employers described in this paragraph are employers that are
not smallest employers described in paragraph (1) and that have 25 or
fewer employees.
- (3) LARGER EMPLOYERS- Subject to paragraph (5),
larger employers described in this paragraph are employers that are not
smallest employers described in paragraph (1) or smaller employers
described in paragraph (2) and that have 50 or fewer employees.
- (4) LARGEST EMPLOYERS-
- (A) IN GENERAL- Beginning with Y3, the
Commissioner may permit employers not described in paragraphs (1) (2),
or (3) to be Exchange-eligible employers.
- (B) PHASE-IN- In applying subparagraph (A),
the Commissioner may phase-in the application of such subparagraph
based on the number of full-time employees of an employer and such
other considerations as the Commissioner deems appropriate.
- (5) CONTINUING ELIGIBILITY- Once an employer is
permitted to be an Exchange-eligible employer under this subsection and
enrolls employees through the Health Insurance Exchange, the employer
shall continue to be treated as an Exchange-eligible employer for each
subsequent plan year regardless of the number of employees involved
unless and until the employer meets the requirement of section 311(a)
through paragraph (1) of such section by offering a group health plan
and not through offering Exchange-participating health benefits plan.
- (6) EMPLOYER PARTICIPATION AND CONTRIBUTIONS-
- (A) SATISFACTION OF EMPLOYER RESPONSIBILITY-
For any year in which an employer is an Exchange-eligible employer,
such employer may meet the requirements of section 312 with respect to
employees of such employer by offering such employees the option of
enrolling with Exchange-participating health benefits plans through the
Health Insurance Exchange consistent with the provisions of subtitle B
of title III.
- (B) EMPLOYEE CHOICE- Any employee offered
Exchange-participating health benefits plans by the employer of such
employee under subparagraph (A) may choose coverage under any such
plan. That choice includes, with respect to family coverage, coverage
of the dependents of such employee.
- (7) AFFILIATED GROUPS- Any employer which is
part of a group of employers who are treated as a single employer under
subsection (b), (c), (m), or (o) of section 414 of the Internal Revenue
Code of 1986 shall be treated, for purposes of this subtitle, as a
single employer.
- (8) OTHER COUNTING RULES- The Commissioner shall
establish rules relating to how employees are counted for purposes of
carrying out this subsection.
- (9) TREATMENT OF MULTIEMPLOYER PLANS- The plan
sponsor of a group health plan (as defined in section 733(a) of the
Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974) that is multiemployer
plan (as defined in section 3(37) of such Act) may obtain health
insurance coverage with respect to participants in the plan through the
Exchange to the same extent as an employer not described in paragraph
(1) or (2) is permitted by the Commissioner to obtain health insurance
coverage through the Exchange as an Exchange-eligible employer
- (f) Special Situation Authority- The Commissioner
shall have the authority to establish such rules as may be necessary to
deal with special situations with regard to uninsured individuals and
employers participating as Exchange-eligible individuals and employers,
such as transition periods for individuals and employers who gain, or
lose, Exchange-eligible participation status, and to establish grace
periods for premium payment.
- (g) Surveys of Individuals and Employers- The
Commissioner shall provide for periodic surveys of Exchange-eligible
individuals and employers concerning satisfaction of such individuals
and employers with the Health Insurance Exchange and
Exchange-participating health benefits plans.
- (h) Exchange Access Study-
- (1) IN GENERAL- The Commissioner shall conduct a
study of access to the Health Insurance Exchange for individuals and
for employers, including individuals and employers who are not eligible
and enrolled in Exchange-participating health benefits plans. The goal
of the study is to determine if there are significant groups and types
of individuals and employers who are not Exchange eligible individuals
or employers, but who would have improved benefits and affordability if
made eligible for coverage in the Exchange.
- (2) ITEMS INCLUDED IN STUDY- Such study also shall examine--
- (A) the terms, conditions, and affordability
of group health coverage offered by employers and QHBP offering
entities outside of the Exchange compared to Exchange-participating
health benefits plans; and
- (B) the affordability-test standard for access of certain employed individuals to coverage in the Health Insurance Exchange.
- (3) REPORT- Not later than January 1 of Y3, in
Y6, and thereafter, the Commissioner shall submit to Congress on the
study conducted under this subsection and shall include in such report
recommendations regarding changes in standards for Exchange eligibility
for for individuals and employers.
I have included the entire Section for it's complete context.
I hope this provides a clearer picture of what we are dealing with here.
~OGD~
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