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image Political Posturing and Tap-Dancing Behind the Curtain . . .



First up is this latest side-trip into the "Trigger Option" to the "Public Option" that may or may not come about as a "State-by-State Co-Op Option" that may be just another name (or not) for the "Public Option" containing this so-called "Trigger Option"  ...

Got all that?

Whatever they call all of this tap-dancing...  I call it a designed ploy to keep the majority of the public in a state of mass confusion.


Now about ... This trigger thing . . .

There been plenty of jive and rending of garment over this so-called trigger mechanism since it first bubbled up through the MSM.

And I have three simple questions.

1. Who is, or are, these lawmakers exactly who have run this latest vague idea up the flag pole and supposedly caused this to "be considered" by the White House, from a "source close to the White House..." ???

Was it Democratic Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska, designed to calm the Democratic moderates? Or maybe, Maine Senator Olympia Snowe, so as to give a patina of "...can't we all just get along..." bipartisanship on something everyone pretty knows that the party-of-no won't go for anyway?

2. What are the benchmarks to set the trigger off?

Would this entail say, if the insurance industry lobbyists don't help fill a lawmaker's re-election coffers to the brim, some unhappy camper lawmaker pulls the trigger?

3. Who would be designated as the trigger man, or if in the case, trigger woman?

Sheesh . . .


My take? I see this as just another on-going move to cause capitulation by lawmakers to slow down the process by them being pressured by the corporate influence from behind the curtain. I mean, hell what are the 3000+ specifically registered health insurance, pharmaceutical, health care provider, and related industry lobbyists behind the curtain there for? That comes out to six (6) lobbyists for every lawmaker on the hill.

Trigger... Eh? Yeah right.


Now with that said. Let's take a look at what the the President's cuurent "official position" is, specifically relating  to the public option as outlined by the White House press secretary on Sunday.

Robert Gibbs on ABC Lays Out the President's Position
on the Public Option and the Address Come Wednesday...

Starting at (minus) -4:02 of the video linked above.

Stephanopoulos: The President is facing a real dilemma over this public health insurance option. He seems to be caught in something of a squeeze-play. You've got the House speaker Nancy Pelosi saying unless there's a strong public option this bill can't pass the House.  Yet, you've got top Democrats in the Senate saying we can't get it though the Senate if there is a public option included. So, how does the President thread that needle?

Robert Gibbs: Well look George, let's spend a couple of minutes ... because I'm sure it will be a  big subject today on your round-tables today ... on what a public option is and what a public option isn't.

A public option first of all will not effect the insurance for 160 to 180 million that get it through employer-sponsored coverage.

We're talking about dealing with the individual and small business market of health insurance reform, right. So the vast majority of people if you'e on Medicare aren't even going to be affected...

Stephanopoulos: [...indecipherable talk over...]

Gibbs continues: ...you're not even going to be affected in any way shape or form by a public option, right?

We're just trying to provide... the President is trying to provide choice and competition in a market... Again... for individual and small businesses owners.

This will not be unfairly subsidized and compete against private insurers at an unfair basis... this will operate under the premiums that they collect.

Stephanopoulos: So it won't dictate Medicare rates?

Gibbs: It won't dictate those type of things.

Let me give you a story George, I have a friend in Alabama where I am from who started a small business in January. We're all enormously proud of him starting a business. The first thing he had to do was go find insurance for his family.

So, he entered the individual market in Alabama. Eighty-nine (89%) percent of people in individual and small-business market plans in Alabama get their insurance through one provider. Blue Cross/Blue Shield.  He's lucky. His family's healthy and he was accepted to get coverage. But, in talking to other small business owners he found that a lot of them we're denied coverage.

He's lucky. Again... his family is healthy. But, lord knows George, if he loses his health insurance for any reason and his family gets sick he's in going to be in a real bind.

Stephanopoulos [small talk over]: So you're making the . . .

Robert Gibbs: We want to provide people like that, in that market, that are in the individual and small business market with something of an option. In this case a public option.

Stephanopoulos [...talks over...]: I .. I .. I recognize that. And the President has long stated he prefers that. He wants the public option...

Robert Gibbs: And he still does.

Stephanopoulos: He wants it. But will he sign a bill that doesn't include it?  Because it can't get  it through the Senate...

Robert Gibbs: Well ... We're not going to prejudge what the process will be when we sign a bill, which the President expects to do this year.

The President strongly believes that we have to have an option like this to provide choice and competition, to provide a check on insurance companies. Because, without it again we are going to have markets again, and big as the whole state of Alabama, almost  Ninety-percent dominated by... (GS talks over...) ... one insurance company...

Stephanopoulos continues: But is it essential? That's the key question... We've known for months that the President is for it.. Is it essential to the reform?

Robert Gibbs: The President believes it is a valuable tool, and I think you'll hear him talk about it Wednesday.

Stephanopoulos: But not essential...

Robert Gibbs: It's a valuable tool to provide choice and competition, something you will hear him speak about extensively on...

Stephanopoulos [..talks over..]: So he's going to... Let me just try and sum this up then. The President from what I can hear, is going to make the case for a public health insurance option, or a form of the public option on Wednesday, but he's not going to say if you don't bring me one I will veto the bill?

Robert Gibbs: Well I doubt we are going to get into heavy veto threats on Wednesday. We're going to talk about what we can do because we are so close to getting it done.

He will talk about the public option and why he believes and continues to believe that it  is a valuable component providing choice and competition that helps individuals and small businesses, at the same time provides a check on insurances companies so they don't dominate the market.

Stephanopoulos: So he knows he won't get Republicans on the bill.

Robert Gibbs: Well... We haven't closed the door on Republicans that are ready, able, and willing to work with the President to  provide a solution to this. I think if you talk to Republican members, both in the House and the Senate, one thing they will come back with regardless of all the heat and light around the townhall meetings, is, you still have millions and millions of constituents telling leaders in congress we have to get something done. That failure's not an option, because millions of Americans are watching their premiums rise . . .

So come Wednesday we''ll all get to hear the President in his words on the public option.


And just as a reminder, the last time I actually heard President Obama speak about his desire for a public option was  just before he went on vacation.That was during his 20+ minute address when he spoke before the Organizing for America organization just a little over two weeks ago on August 20, 2009.

You can find the video here at C-SPAN... But trust me, these were his words:

From President Obama's presentation:

"One of the options we want to provide them is the public option... there has... this has been a confusion... around... There's been a lot of confusion about this so let me just clarify. I think a public option is important... and let me explain why..." (25:30)



And as many here at the Cafe know, as I said previously...



~OGD~




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Thanks for posting this. I can't stand to watch Snuffleupagus, David Gregory, or Chris Matthews at this point but I appreciate reading what Press Secretary Gibbs stated.

I agree that mandates without a real public option 'now'(sans trigger) is an insult, outrage, and a political disaster.

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Meanwhile, Axelrod was pretty much throwing the public option under the bus. Total confusion reigns. Fascinating to watch the Republicans though who were all totally on message yesterday from network to cable united in their demand for tort reform and interstate insurance competition. This actually makes total sense when you consider that Democrats were intimidated out of talking about anything so remotely leftist as CARE months ago. Why shouldn't we be arguing over torts and interstate commerce? It's not like people are dying or anything or if they are well they're probably not our kind of folks. May be too sick to vote and don't have enough extra cash to fill our pockets. And sick people aren't cool or postpartisan. They're just, well, sick.

I expect the compromise to fall somewhere between wingnut and teabagger.

Stay tuned.

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Just for general information . . .

Read this and interpret it for whatever advantage one may wish to support or underscore their personal agenda:

White House senior adviser David Axelrod tells POLITICO that the administration is not dialing back its support for a public health-insurance option as part of a reform bill, and that a comment he made on NBC's "Meet the Press" was misinterpreted.

Axelrod told NBC's David Gregory that President Barack Obama "certainly agrees that we have to have competition and choice, to hold the insurance companies honest. … He believes the public option is a good tool. Now, it shouldn't define the whole health-care debate, however."

The Associated Press, which often sets the agenda for how other news organizations cover Sunday shows, popped up a headline saying: "White House shifts on public health care option".

The story's lead:

"WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama's top political adviser is backing away from having a government health care plan compete against private carriers."

Axelrod disputed that interpretation in an e-mail.

"In no way did I back off our position," he wrote. "I must have said half a dozen times that he thinks the public option is an important tool to bring about competition and choice that will help consumers. To say that it is not the whole of health insurance reform, in a country where 160 million people have employer-sponsored health insurance and would not even be affected by this, does not mean I am backing off!"

Indeed, Axelrod also told Gregory: "He said there must be an exchange where people can get insurance at a competitive price. He believes in competition and choice. The public option is an important tool to help provoke that where there is no competition. He still believes that. ... So we want to create a pool in which people who don't have insurance, and small businesses, can go and get insurance at a competitive price. And a public option would be a valuable tool within that group, that package of plans that would be offered, private and public."

continues...

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Axelrod: Firm on public option

By MIKE ALLEN - POLITICO

Sunday, September 6, 2009

http://www2.seattlepi.com/articles/409881.html

That is all . . .

~OGD~

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Gee, if it's not going to affect many, why the fierce opposition to it? Why say it is not an essential part of the plan? Besides which, he's lying. They are backing off at least the impression they gave with their original proposal (as below). They've reworded it on the OFA website.

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Thanks for the clip, OGD, I just got back. Perhaps lying is too harsh in describing a political statement :) Let’s say Gibbs is amplifying Axelrod’s explanation of Obama’s clarification of what unnamed WH officials said off the record and leave it at that. But I don't think they're playing rope-a-dope and will push through a competitive (open to all at some point) PO at the last minute. I think they're compromising with the industry and centrists to get what they can and shine it up.

The plan during the campaign as I linked to below is ambiguous in that they left themselves “outs”(i.e. ‘if you see the preamble, you’ll se we’re talking about only the uninsured and small business employees.’). But that isn’t what they say in the section I quoted (and in the paragraphs above it).

I don't think a little PO in the "basket" is going to effect much change in HC unless it is allowed to grow, which doesn't need to happen immediately (and shouldn't) but can't be constrained either.
Even the House plan, at least one version, contained a measure that would open up the PO to everyone after a few years.

The gubmint has regulated the HC industries time and time again and it never takes. If there is no “strong” public plan then all of the cost cutting that will magically result from actual competition (not the monopolistic, fraudulent practices of the private insurers) will be negated for everyone who is ineligible for the insurance exchanges.

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The "trigger" is just a tool for pushing the public option of the table for now, so it can be killed for good at some later time when people are paying attention. It's the latest trick of Rahm, Nelson, Snowe and the other employees of the insurance industry in the US government. I don't think it is going to work.

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... at some later time when people are paying attention.

Should have said: "at some later time when people are paying less attention."

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As I said . . .

It's a tactic to delay. The longer and more confusing the side issues become the better for those who wish the failure of the plan.

~OGD~

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President Obama... once again just now stated . . .

... that he believes we need a strong public option to help drive costs down!

Before the 30,000 members at the AFL-CIO Labor Day Picnic in Cincinnati.

~OGD~

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Obama plan, bottom, page 5 (my emph.):
(2) NEW AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE HEALTH INSURANCE OPTIONS. The Obama-Biden plan will create a National Health Insurance Exchange to help individuals purchase new affordable health care options if they are uninsured or want new health insurance. Through the Exchange, any American will have the opportunity to enroll in the new public plan or an approved private plan, and income-based sliding scale tax credits will be provided for people and families who need it.

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See my comment above . . .

It's located in a reply to your other comment, here.

~OGD~

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State-by-State Co-Op Option
This should be dead-on-arrival. Currently, States enjoy exclusive control over the health insurance agenda because of the Tenth Amendment - health care is not a Federal responsibility as mandated in the Constitution so it becomes a responsibility of the States. And State representatives and senators receive tons of contributions to their state re-election coffers from said health insurance corporations. In fact, it's well known almost all States have just token health insurance representation because the insurers have divvied up the markets to suit their regional monopolies. And they work together to decide who should get insurance, who can't qualify, what services will be covered and how much the insuree has to pay out-of-pocket. Giving the States a say in this Legislation is a serious mistake - they 're responsible for the current problems of the system and to keep them at the helm will surely wreck whatever Legislation Congress passes. So long as States act as single individuals, the Legislation is ripe for exploitation by the insurance industry. That's why the Federal government needs to run it, not the States.

Trigger
They only work if there isn't a method by which it can be disabled. Also, it has to be written in such a manner that it can't be misinterpreted for it to be disarmed for political purposes. And no grace periods! Once one party steps over the line, the trigger snaps and everyone is in the same boat - no exceptions. So the trigger has to be written in such a manner that everyone understands exactly where the line is and if they even toe the line, it could trigger the option and everyone gets hauled onto the carpet. There also needs to be severe penalties if a member of Congress or insurance industry actively or stealthy works to override the trigger - serious penalty, not a handslap.

Public Option
In David Goldhill's essay, How American Health Care Killed My Father in The Atlantic, the funding for the public option is already available. Mr. Gold hill points out a simple fact people choose to ignore in this debate. Simply stated, employer-based health insurance, on average, costs more than $12,000 per family to a company providing health insurance benefits to its employees. Mr. Goldhill has experience running several companies and company divisions of various sizes during career, so he knows that employee raises, as well as entry-level hiring salaries, are tightly limited by what it costs companies to provide health-care benefits. And this is the hidden jewel ... the employer isn't paying for employee health care - you are. It comes out of your potential wage increase. So technically, employee health benefits are equilivant to a intangible, hidden salary that one cannot leverage. It's something we've already earned.

Health Savings Accounts
As for the conservative community who has fears of runaway federal budgets and deficits if such a program were to be forced on everyone, perhaps a second option could be offered to ease their concerns. Here, Mr. Goldhill suggests health savings account—a vehicle where people would contribute a minimum percentage of income (think that $12,000 the company pays for your health benefits) as a pre-tax, subject to a floor and a cap in total dollar contributions. The income percentage required should rise over a working life, as wages and wealth typically do. His concept for these accounts would allow participants to withdraw money for any purpose, without penalty, once the funds exceed a ceiling established for each age, and at death any remaining money should be disbursed through inheritance. Our current methods of health-care funding create a “use it or lose it” imperative. This new approach would ensure that families put aside funds for future expenses, but would not force them to spend the funds only on health care. Unfortuntely, he doesn't go into much detail as to whom would be responsible for administering such an option ( it'll have to be worked out in Congress), but at the very least, it should satisfy the conservatives to a tee.

The Compromise Solution
What we need is compromise - each side willing to give a little ground to the other so that a meaningful legislative package can be created that services the needs of each without overstepping too much into territory the other side will not support.

In the short run, both options could run simultaneously. However, over time one of the options will have a significant advantage over the other. The option that shows signs of being dysfunctional can be quietly be laid to rest and those remaining participates moved to the ongoing option.

We have already seen conservatives are locked in a battle with themselves and are confusing us with their own internal enemies. So we need to find a method by which we can ease their self-induced anxiety and fears of the unknown that is unknowable. By offering both options that pander to both political ideologies, we take the fight out of the process. And that's the key - remove the anomosity so saner heads an prevail.

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Are we confused? Yes.

Good summary OGD but thank you also Beetlejuice.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC OPTION.

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