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"Who can blame them?" (Death Panels and The latest MSM self-absolution)


"You used to have a rabbit. Beautiful little thing. Do you remember?"
"Flossy."
"That's right. Flossy. Do you remember what happened to Flossy?"
"You shot him."
"That's right. It was the kindest thing to do after he'd been run over by that car."
"Your car, sir."
"Yes, by my car. But even that was an act of mercy when you remember that that dog had been set on him."
"Your dog, sir."
-    General Melchett and George (From Blackadder)


The death panel tidal wave has washed over the media and destroyed the whole structure of a slowly and painstakingly constructed national dialogue on the technical and moral underpinnings of health care reform. It's nauseating that one side of the aisle has demagogued an issue that is or should be deeply important to all families. I just don't understand how a whole major party can take end of life issues and treat them with such a lack of respect. And I don't understand how the whole national media could have jumped on this particularly despicable panic-party wagon with such apparent glee.

One of the toughest decisions anyone will have to make in their lives is literally or metaphorically pulling the plug on their parents. Anything that could make these end of life decisions less heart-wrenching just can't be treated in this way; warped out of recognition, caricatured as a monstrous genocidal scheme, and the perpetrators of this outrage treated with respectful kid-gloves in the media.

I spent the last weeks of my father's life at his bedside, keeping one hand on his shoulder all night because it was the only way to calm him enough so that he could sleep, watching him slowly lose his mind due to the meds and the pain, and then finding myself handed the responsibility of deciding to end the brutal treatment that had no chance of saving his life (or perhaps...  an ever so slight one...?), with my siblings overseas on the phone wondering whether we shouldn't perhaps let it continue....

Nothing will make such decisions easy, but any discussion of measures that could grant those involved some peace of mind just can't become the center of a national clown-show like what has just happened. I will never cease to be surprised by how low the moral lepers can set the limbo-bar of lunacy and how the media can again and again manage to stoop below it.

The media is not completely blind. They are now involved in their nth cycle of self-reflection as they look on the latest wreckage of their own making. And yet, surprise surprise, they see nothing in that mirror other than a thing of pristine innocence sullied by strange forces quite beyond their control.

After all, they did not push the lies and demagoguery. They merely
- reported what the liars were saying ,
- gave the demagogues a bigger soap-box,
- asked the hard questions, such as "is this tough GOP campaign a good strategy?",

- and then after a couple of weeks decided to check whether the rumors swirling around the village like a tornado were actually founded in fact.

After all, they never ever intended for it to end like this, hysterical gun slinging screamers at town halls, the Hill more and more polarized, two halves of the country convinced the other half are Nazis bent on subverting democracy, the President forced on the defensive...

but GAWD does it make for good TV and flashy headlines.

Anarchy sells, what-are-you-gonna-do...?

This would be less maddening if this moment of reflection actually led to thoughts about how to improve the political discourse. But no. The handwringing concerns primarily their fragile place as an elite that moves and shapes this discourse. The worry issues from a sense that they no longer control things. Oh dear. The poor little big-wigs.

We have Joe Klein whining about the difficulty for the Serious Press in maintaining that sacred convention of giving equal credence to both parties, at a time when one party has become so incredibly stupid. You can almost see him WISH the Democrats would turn into equally pathological liars so that the press could once again appear fair and balanced. "Why oh why do the Dems so want to hurt America with their reasonable fact-based arguments?" Of course, now Klein's piece from five days ago is tucked away in Time's historical archive, and on the front page it's replaced (if it ever was there?) by Joel Stein's half-hearted Millbanky tongue-flapping ruminations on how he'd go about setting up the death panel, entitled " Can I Kill You?". Sickening.

For a couple of weeks, the NYT stroked its collective beard 'questioning' whether these rumors were true, and finally decided, with half the country well-entrenched in a panic about the coming genocide, that they were 'false'. But such head-line illumination was reserved for the tech-savvy readers of the interwebs, leaving the unworthy print-readers still in the dark. Why? Maybe clarity on paper is just irresponsible - someone might whack a wingnut over the head with the solid truth. Pixels just don't have the same effect.

Howard Kurtz of WaPo wails about the MSM's impotence in debunking myths. He lists the various instances where CNN, NYT, WaPo, MSNBC and others had flat out called the various crazy rumors baseless. He of course elides the fact that CNN also loudly trumpets the various lies as the Gospel Truth on prime time with Lou Dobbs. WaPo publishes these rumors as fact every other day with the likes of Krauthammer and Kristol. And as for MSNBC, well they've been long been slapped with the discrediting partisan Liberal tag anyway.

These wheezy self-absorbed media 'critics' sound like Glenn Beck summing up his position in one long breath "Obama IS racist, though I'm not saying he's racist, so why do people say I'm saying that...?". What goes on in the brains of the editors at these outfits? Do they really not know what they're doing when they give people the finger with the right hand and pat them lovingly with the left?

The most heartbreaking read in this periodically refreshed media genre is Ezra Klein's sweeping absolution of the media. I used to love reading this guy. But I'm starting to feel that the WaPo virus is going to his brain. In a first shot at this topic of media complicity/impotence in the madness he attributes some responsibility for not doing a better job of knocking the crazy slander down. But then he comes back and offers the following exculpatory thoughts:
The problem isn't in the particulars. It's in the profession. Namely, it's in the competitive pressures to drift toward sensationalism and hot stories. A smear like "death panels" emerges and catches fire because it's fundamentally interesting. You could write a great thriller, or film a poignant drama, about death panels. Not so about health insurance exchanges. That said, the New York Times would probably never mention the lie if given the opportunity. But after it hits talk radio and explodes onto cable news and rips through the blogosphere, it stops being a lie and begins being a story. [...]

They just get caught following a manipulated conversation, and so being part of the manipulation, part of the machine that focuses on cynical lies like the death panels rather than policy specifics like the exchanges. That's not the fault of an individual reporter, though. It's structural, and it requires a structural response.)
WTF? A lie on cable, on the internet, does not stop being a lie.

The story is not that some people are saying this exciting/scary-if-true thing.

The story is that some very powerful people are lying their pants off on the TV.

THAT is an exciting AND scary story. The story is that the GOP are spreading insanely inflammatory lies about their political opposites. Report it. THAT's your job.

When a republican, famous for nothing but her track record of fear-mongering comes out with an Op-ed peddling death panels, a responsible reporter writes gripping pieces like this, laying out her long trail of toxic slime eroding the political fabric of a country.

When a leading respected politician like John McCain feeds the rumors by mumbling skepticism about whether or not half his long-time Senate friends and colleagues are actually genocidal maniacs, the story should not be
'Respected politician has doubts',
 the real story is
'Respected politician has lost his mind'.
The truth in such cases is actually a great story. The problem is that some true, and truly great, stories require a journalist and his editors to have backbone. And perhaps Ezra is right. That is a kind of 'structural problem'. Just not the kind he thinks.


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Highly, highly recommended. Excellent post, Obey.

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Thanks Lis. Was worried this one would just sink into oblivion...

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Way, way, excellent post pugsley...It's a MUST read. I hope you will consider e-mailing it to all the news outlets. Mega rec'd.

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Wow. Thanks so much. Just shot off a couple of emails, though not expecting much...

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Obey,

I concur with Stilli and urge you submit to Huffington! and KOS and multiple blogs, as well as letter to editors!

Outstanding!

Rec'd

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I really appreciate the encouragement, Sam! Much obliged.

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Just so.

Just not the kind he thinks.

But! But!! Truth has a liberal bias, and goshdurnit the MSM is trying to level the playing field. That requires that they be unfair and unbalanced in order to say that they are fair and balanced.

Capiche?

=D

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It is sad to see how they twist themselves in knots trying to figure out what they're good for, isn't it?

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I spent the last weeks of my father's life at his bedside, keeping one hand on his shoulder all night because it was the only way to calm him enough so that he could sleep, watching him slowly lose his mind due to the meds and the pain, and then finding myself handed the responsibility of deciding to end the brutal treatment that had no chance of saving his life (or perhaps... an ever so slight one...?), with my siblings overseas on the phone wondering whether we shouldn't perhaps let it continue...."

This is gut wrenching. But this is life. They will play some real life stories like this on cable from time to time--usually CNN. People do not wish to think about living wills.

I must have prepared thousands of living wills. I would try to explain but people would sign quickly. Most did not wish to 'speak of such things'

But the discussion of these issues should be complicated. And repubs just see a bumper sticker.
There will be no health 'package' that will contain these provisions because of the rants and raves of pols to their idiot constituencies.

Its like discussing the elements of the Franco-Prussian war that were applicable to the First World War with a first grader.

Great great post.

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Thanks Dick and you others for the nice comments! I'm having a bitch of a time loading TPM pages today, keep getting stuck in a loop. So don't know how many responses I can get through.

Yes, people don't like to talk about it. It's one of those things that are sacred and taboo at the same time. All the more reason not to use it like a political murder-ball. THis stuff really annoys me. Not that I really expect much of the Republicans, but the spaghetti-spine media. What are they good for, in the end, if they can't treat outrageous liars like the scum they are...?

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By the way, I read your story and went in and talked to my daughter about my end of life preferences. I had been meaning to, and put it off.

Thanks for sharing that. It was important to me and to my daughter. We both knew what I was going to say, but this way I leave behind no guilt for making what might be the wrong decision. And money is a consideration. I am going to die (someday), I have lived quite a while, and my death should not bankrupt anyone in my family. I don't need to leave that behind. But there is a rational process which I have laid out.

I'll renew the discussion in about ten years or so. ;-}

Again Obey, your discussion of staying with your father at his death and how it affected you was important to me. Thanks. It rather surprises me to realize that death is not a solitary thing. Like everything else that matters about being human it is shared.

And after writing that, the cynic in me pops up to ask "How else could an insurance salesman sell burial insurance?" But that just emphasizes how true it is.

Yeah. I'm warped. How else do you have fun?

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Everyone else has said it, but do we ever hear praise too much? As if every post we write were equally praiseworthy? This is a classic, Obey. You nailed it.

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Nooo, it's never enough.
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Got a nice surprise opening up the blog this morning... all my favorite bloggers showing up! Thanks Gregor.

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that is the story.

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Nice avatar! Quite apropos...

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I like the Existentialist reference,also.

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Tell me something.
I can understand having a living will and it should be a consideration.

What I am confused about is the possibility of some agent, a nurse or some administrator who comes before the medical power of attorney and pressuring a decision to forget the pace maker, or the amputation. How callous of me to decide my mother should suffer needlessly because I decided for surgery rather than hospice.
YOU HEATHEN you'd let your Mother suffer?

In so many words or facial expressions, how disdainful YOU are. Letting your mother suffer needlessly if she proceeds with surgery , just stop YOU jerk convincing YOU, to convince your parent that they’ll probably suffer a death or suffer a very diminished life.

Suffer death on the operating table didn’t sound so bad to me; but they were bound and determined that NO WAY in hell, the insurance company wasn’t going to want to pay and then you die anyway. Ironic, you should go to hospice and die, but don’t expect the Insurance companies to pay for a procedure and you die and the insurance company still owes the hospital.
By all means possible the insurance company contacts their connections at the hospital. The old buddy system; You know “hey buddy, we sure have a good relationship working together, and how fast we reimburse, lets keep it that way.

All in an attempt to Cover their A. Always concerned more about the financial arrangements than life itself. It tends to skew the reasoning about motives.

As one writer put it a death panel by any other name is still a death panel. Are we playing semantics? A living will, directs your death. Somehow it SOUNDS so sterile. Less shocking than telling you that some will suffocate when we pull the plug. Just a little.

I’d probably prefer Doctor Kervorkian’s getting high method. Is that an option?

A living will is the greatest thing. But amputations and being bedridden is not always the end of the world. Convincing someone to make a decision based upon a hospital administrator who Say’s they wouldn’t want to live that way, telling horror stories to scare the bejesus out of indigent patients.

Like the old tale about how police officers don’t have ticket quotas. Maybe not; but they do have performance reviews based upon tickets issued. But don’t dare call it a quota.

Don’t dare call it a death panel.

Put the living will procedure back in the bill, take the financial aspect of life sustaining out.

See how fear tactics work. Now because of the outrage of Death panels we'll remove some aspect that would be beneficial. Ever heard of the term scapegoat.

Blame the Death panel people.

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What? You seem to think the bill incites doctors to kill off old people...?!

"Put the living will procedure back in the bill, take the financial aspect of life sustaining out."

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I'm not really sure what you are saying here, resistance, and I've reread your comment several times.

If you are advocating "end of life" conversations and living wills, good on you.

If you are against them...please rethink. This is not an issue we should leave to our children. They will be heart-broken enough already. They do not need the pain of having to make this decision for us. Once upon a time there was no choice, they HAD to do it. Now it's different, we can take that burden from them. It is cowardly not to.

All this scare crapola is just that. CRAP. You can say that you want heroic measures to save you. You do not have to chose a DNR. The younger we are when we make this decision, the better. Do it when you still have complete control of your faculties. Do not wait until there is even the possibility that someone will attempt to influence your desion. For those of you who have parents who have not yet made this decision, use this opportunity to discuss it with them. It is not a pleasant discussion. We have had it with our children, and our lone remaining parent, along with lots of tears on all our parts. But we got to choose. They will not have to suffer through making a decsion. A few tears now, will potentially save a lot of pain later.

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Time and circumstances change
If you were to ask me when I am young and I say "I wouldn't want to be confined to a wheel chair or let me die if I should be blinded." I might consider life not worth living.
Ask me when I am older and want to live and see my grandchildren.

I am for revisiting from time to time what constitutes living.

I am for living wills, and again; even using the term living in the same breath as when I am discussing end of life and when to pull the plug.
This semantic word game is intended to deflect the thought of Dying. It sounds so much better, Living Will as opposed to me writing it when I am dead?

The same can be said of the left who attacks savagely those who are concerned about euthanasia or any of the subtleties of determining when to cut off the expensive care treatments.

Imagine you’re 65, have COPD and you need a pacemaker. The hospital administrator comes out and tells the family; in the opinion of the hospital the surgery would not be the right course. Your mother will most likely die on the table or she might be in more pain or this or that. PICK any number of reasons to discourage the medical procedure. As if you thought they would plea your case to the insurance company to see whether they would get reimbursement. What kind of decision would you make if all you got were discouragement?

After the hospital makes a determination, best to send your mother to hospice. They will not perform the surgery. Your mother should just go to hospice and die.
I asked, “ if she’s going to die at hospice, then why not attempt surgery and if she dies what’s the difference”.
Ever have the State take over care from the siblings, and make the elderly wards of the State? Just keep pushing the issue.

Oh it's possible to search the country and find a doctor willing to perform the surgery and that’s if you can find an Anesthesiologist; the most powerful individual determining whether you can receive surgery.

Yes if YOU can find someone to disagree with the arbitrator of life and death, Mom can get a pacemaker.

Two (2) years later I was able to find a doctor, who gave my mother the pacemaker, preventing her heart from racing. Yes two years after the hospital administrator concluded, she was going to die, but not at their hospital.

Imagine I, the medical POA, precluded from seeking out doctors willing to perform the surgery. Because the New healthcare program wouldn't pay for the new team to perform the surgery, except I suppose they might throw some clause to allow a hearing board. Notice I said hearing board, because people get so worked up if I say DEATH PANEL. Imagine the burden placed upon you because the insurance whores had concluded YOU were going to die.
Tell me, is this a death panel, or should I use a less inflammatory word; Life Panel?

Imagine; today we see the courts intervening in the care of minor children concerning court issued medical care. Now project the outcome of a hospital report stating "In the opinion of the Hospital and its staff and the honorable so and so, it would be tantamount to elder abuse if the Son or Medical POA persists in pushing for Care beyond Hospice”
Questioning my soundness of mind, before a tribunal; as I fight kicking and screaming to keep my mother out of the Hands of a panel that has determined; go to hospice and die. Is this a Life or death panel?

They don't take your liberties all at once, just one step at a time.

Have the ability for living wills. Just stop the other disingenuous dialogue.
Maybe the real reason end of life discussion was removed, is that the insurance company doesn’t want you, to have the opportunity to overrule their panel; they don’t want to pay?

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A living will/advanced medical directive does not allow you to be euthanized if you go blind or are in a wheel chair, regardless of how much you wish you were dead...it just says whether you want heroic measures taken to save your life, should you not be in position to make the decision yourself at the time of need. You can change your mind anytime you want. What a gift to your children for them to NOT have to make that decision.

All that other gobbledygook you mention gets in the way of talking about end of life issues and is part of what makes a rational conversation difficult to have.

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Stilli your response makes my point.

You didn't hear anything I said; it was "All that other gobbledygook"

Well excuse me; if you were on that panel you have stated that ONLY YOU could determine what was of use in making a decision.

The left should have reached out and alleviated any and all concerns the right might have had about the Healthcare bill.

Instead it attacked the other side. “What is wrong with you people, are you so dense”. Go ahead, insult the opposition, and then cry because you get nothing, because presumptuousness blinded a cooperative spirit.

Is it,if your understanding and your opponents understanding are in conflict, ONLY yours is the right one?

Instead you fail to recognize that what I related was true. I lived that horror and I accurately related what we had to bear, as I looked at my mother who had a living will. DNR do not resuscitate in the event of heart attack.

Now read carefully. THE ONLY REASON SHE WAS HAVING A HEART ATTACK, THEY WOULD NOT GIVE HER A PACE MAKER.

So much for your determination that she should have had a living will.
The moment she signed the DNR she was denied a medical procedure?

Fight back the tears when the hospice tells you, your mother will most likely die from heart failure.
Heart failure because they wouldn't allow a pacemaker operation.

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Perhaps it would be helpful if you said what you meant. Nowhere that I could find in your 1st comment did you say that your mother was denied a pacemaker because she had a DNR. If she WAS, I would find that disturbing.

BUT, this scenario you are relating occurred in the current system, and under Medicare I would presume (again, lack of clarity on your part) yet I am not hearing ANYONE say we should throw out Medicare. In fact, I bet a whole lot of people would like to be able to access it earlier than age 65.

So, your mom survived the death panel.

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I see a living will as a guidance to how the decision of the end of life circumstances should be governed. My kid is most likely to make the decision. I made specific that no single practioners' medical judgment should be honored in my case. I want an independent medical judgment, and I want my sister and brother-in-law asked. That all applies to prognosis.

With that information, cost becomes a consideration. I refuse to let the unreasonable extension of my life bankrupt someone else in my family. I simply am not worth that much.

Is there an outside chance that I might recover and have an adequate life? With the way technology is changing, what I decide today may be irrelevant tomorrow. So what matters is the decision process itself, and the way my (inevitable) death effects those I care about. I don't want to leave behind unnecessary debt, nor do I want to leave anyone with guilt for getting the decisions wrong. Every decision is made based on the best information available

When I get that far along, what else matters? We all die.

I remember clearly the day I was reading and came across the line "for every birth there is a grave." I was about age 12, and it was a revelation to me. I went to talk to my father. Nothing he said is memorable except that he agreed. The revelation remains.

Nothing has occurred in the 54 years since to change the absolute inevitable truth of that statement. Carlos Castaneda wrote that his Brujo taught that each day we run, and a step behind us runs death. Someday, unexpectedly, death was going to reach out and tap us on the shoulder. We should live our lives in that knowledge. Death is not worth obsessing over - as long as we live in the knowledge of the inevitability of death.

We all die. Only how matters.

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great post Obey.

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I had a similar experience with my Mom's passing. It isn't easy.

I don't think their is any hope for the MSM. It is over. I can only pay attention to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. I do watch Bob Schieffer, but even Bob lets his guests get away with too much bull.

Thanks for a great post.

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I had a similar experience with my Mom's passing. It isn't easy.

I don't think there is any hope for the MSM. It is over. I can only pay attention to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. I do watch Bob Schieffer, but even Bob lets his guests get away with too much bull.

Thanks for a great post.

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Double the kudos!! Ta.
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Enjoying your posts as well, norseman.

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I felt my comments were worth repeating....apparently.

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I don't think you begin to realize how good this is. So I'll join the whistles, cheers, plaudits, commendations, medal givings, an cheeseburgers handouts.

I second those who suggest you cross-post this elsewhere. If TPM had the sense to do it, it would take essays as well written as this one and move them to the left side of the Cafe page, where they might stay long enough to be appreciated for the fine writing they are.

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Seconded pugsley. I can barely stand to witness the "debate" on healthcare/health insurance reform in the MSM these days.

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You know, Miguel, the worrying thing is the last round of MSM soul-searching, re the Iraq war, had a modicum of self-awareness to it. This time they no longer even realize what they've done. THey're working their head ever further up their ass, it seems...

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I am with Miguel on this...yes, Obey should cross post or repost or whatever the hell you call it.

The happy story was with Norseman tonite. His dad was blinded and could see. It brought tears to my eyes...

We are all blinded and we NEED TO SEE.

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A cheezeburger from the Professor?! It means a lot to me. I've never registered at HuffPo nor DK, but I'll take a look around. Appreciate the advice.

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Outstanding post Obey, this is one I wish could stay up for a few days and be posted everywhere.

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I'd actually say the same for all your posts, Don. So many quality posts these days, whatareyagonnado...?

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I just don't understand how a whole major party can take end of life issues and treat them with such a lack of respect.

I have no answer other than many, many people don't respect the end of life:

Every year an estimated 2.1 million older Americans are victims of physical, psychological, or other forms of abuse and neglect. Those statistics may not tell the whole story. For every case of elder abuse and neglect that is reported to authorities, experts estimate that there may be as many as five cases that have not been reported.

I keep coming across a reference to a CDC report that nursing home neglect contributed to the deaths of 14,000 people between 1999 and 2002, but I can't locate the original report to confirm that number, nor can I locate any more recent statistics.

I mention this, however, to try to underscore the sheer numbers of people in this country who disrespect the end of life. All you have to do is Google incidents of abuse in your state to get a more local picture.

Excellent post, Obey.

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THERE'S the story, Gasket. Of course if the media framed it that way, it really wouldn't be fun anymore for them, would it?

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Sad but true, Obey. Because 2.1 million is a huge story.

Thanks for meticulously compiling these odious op-eds, btw. What a depressing task you set for yourself, although the results are illuminating. I appreciate your efforts.

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Upper deck. You got all of this one, Obey.

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Great to have you back, Q! You've been missed.

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I second that. :-)

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I just don't understand how a whole major party can take end of life issues and treat them with such a lack of respect.

My take is that they got severely burned by the whole Terry Schiavo thing (which was also cynical politics gone horribly wrong for them.) The majority of the public was horrified at their interference on a Congressional level. Lesson learned, they were just waiting for an opportunity to be on the other side. The Palin offered it and they grabbed it. (Btw, personally, I don't think Palin herself is that cynical on this front, irrational tho it might be, as being Miz Libertarian Alaskan is sort of her main raison d'etre, not to mention moms of the severly disabled usaully have that particular fear on a very basic, non-rational, gut level.)

Yeah, it's nauseating.

Progressives/liberals looking for political results do not do themselves a favor by doing internet postings read by the public at large about end of life expenses ruining our health care system if they lack the nuance and careful language of bio-ethicists, palliative experts or clergy. Yes, the wonderful thing about the internet is freedom of speech and the chance to voice your opinion on such topics and discuss them with others. But if at the same time, if your goal is health reform, and you publicly claim the banner of Democratic reform, or write on a site seeming to do so, you may be be counter-productive to your cause to blithely write on such issues without a lot of care. The movement to keep abortion available should have taught anyone in politics that the word "choice" is an extremely important one to stress in such matters, before you say anything else.

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But if at the same time, if your goal is health reform, and you publicly claim the banner of Democratic reform, or write on a site seeming to do so, you may be be counter-productive to your cause to blithely write on such issues without a lot of care.

This can't be said too much. Google is everywhere.

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Good points AA. But it really doesn't matter how carefully you put it. Just look at Zeke Emanuel and how his words have been turned into the diametrically opposite of his central claim about the ethics and pragmatics of end-of-life care.

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I do think Palin is that cynical.

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Grouch, I have to disagree. One has to have a clue before they can be cynical. Sarah is clueless. She lacks sufficient understanding of the matter to be cynical.

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AA I don't see how they're on the other side here. They demanded Schiavo be kept alive at all costs, Bill Frist even determined she could recover by examining a videotape spliced together from snippets of tapes taken over years.

Now they're demanding no payment to doctors for end of life counseling because they pretend it smacks of encouraging seniors to commit suicide. They themselves put that same provision in the Medicare Part D drug bill in 2003, and Republican senators like Collins actually co-wrote the provision for Kennedy's senate HELP bill.

It's cynical and disgusting but both memes come from the same place, scare people, especially seniors into believing Dems want to deny them care so the "undeserving" can be covered.

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Excellent comment Artappraiser.

I hadn't connected the end of life issues to Terry Schiavo. Would you say that both the Republican Party and the MSM are reeling from the backlash to their reaction to that case? We can only hope.

I do think you are letting Palin off too lightly, however. She isn't a libertarian. She is a Christian Dominionist much like the C-Street characters and like Alabama's Judge Roy Moore. They don't want freedom from government regulation. They want a theocracy with all law based on the Bible, and run by a council of "Christian" elders who interpret the Bible as it is enforced in law.

YOu know, like Iran.

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Obey, you dickdayed it!

If you send this to no one else, please send it to Ezra. His train is on the wrong track, in a parallel universe. :-)

Rec'd 1,9999 times (if I could).

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Hi puppy. Yeah, I sent it to Ezra. I don't expect much. He's so far gone he's echoing Kurtz. so sad...

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Great post, Obey!

It becomes almost comical watching the MSM treat the birthers and the deathers and Bachmann, etc., as if they were legitimate intellects posing legitimate questions and concerns.

You really nailed it! Definitely rec'd!

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It's a funny dynamic, isn't it? The MSM build up Senator X as a STATESMAN, and then the statesman pushes the envelope saying wilder and wilder things, and the media just can't call him on it because then it questions their own previous judgment, so they have to take all the crap seriously, and they end up tying themselves in knots trying to bring out the idea that X is lying, but he's really not a liar, but...

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"I will never cease to be surprised by how low the moral lepers can set the limbo-bar of lunacy..."

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

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Not a little too loaded on the alliteration...?
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A perfectly acceptable amount of alliteration, if you ask me :)

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I like the alliteration!

Up to the edge, maybe but certainly not over it.

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Well, the sun's going down on this one. Thanks to all for the very kind comments!

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The story is that some very powerful people are lying their pants off on the TV.

THAT is an exciting AND scary story. The story is that the GOP are spreading insanely inflammatory lies about their political opposites. Report it. THAT's your job

It's my opinion that the mass newspapers have spent two generations selling advertising to mass retailers who did not want to offend any section of their audience. The owners got rich doing that. So the editorial judgment is to not offend the many potential readers who believe and support the lies.

That's one reason the mass newspapers are dying. They can't regear to sell to niche markets the way most other media can. The mass production and delivery methods of dead tree newspapers demand a single product that cannot be easily adjusted to the taste of the recipient, so they can't offend anyone by naming the customer's preferred information sources as liars.

Good post, Obey.

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Richard, was brought back to this blog for other reasons, but just realized my responses to you didn't take. Just wanted to thank you for your kind remarks, and thoughtful comments!

As always, very much enjoy your highly informative input around this site!

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Well, like a few others I can't comment beyond my own blog. So have a good weekend all!

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Fire and brimstone, Obey!

Give 'em hell, mate!

Belatedly rec'd!

O.T.

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Never toooo late, O.T.!! thanks.
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(And it's something I feel I could write every goddam week with what the MSM spews out)

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I hear you loud and clear, amigo.

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