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The Republicans' New Rhetoric (beyond the Big Lie)


Here's a quick theory of what is going wrong with the health care debate. Standard Rhetorical Theory (SRT) no longer applies.

According to SRT - which I'm lifting from Aristotle's Rhetoric (book II, chapter I), what you do in presenting your case is

(1) try to make the argument of your speech demonstrative and worthy of belief;

(2) make your own character look right, (i.e. that you are someone of good sense, ability, and good will)

(3) put your hearers, who are to decide, into the right frame of mind (in this case, pissed off about corporate give-aways, fearful of losing their jobs and insurance, and pitying of the poor who already have).

I personally think all these three conditions have been met. The arguments are solid, voters trust democrats more than republicans, and are pissed, fearful and compassionate. Meanwhile the Republicans are lying bigger than ever.

Granted, some of their rhetorical tropes may still have some grip on people, and much easier to set up than debunk. There is no easy two-line retort to

"Free markets are more efficient than Government services, so government should stay out of health care".

Sure one could say, "These markets aren't really free, and they cannot be made efficient in the case of health care, because...", but you will lose half your audience at "Because". The same can be said for

"High corporate profits is a sign of a good company, therefore high profits in the health care industry mean the corporations are good at what they do",

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"These are hard times, so the government must tighten its belt", etc.

But I don't think these tropes are half as convincing as they used to be, especially coming from the enablers of the greatest free-market failure since the Great Depression, and the greatest government bailout of private corporations in history.

The Republicans are mistrusted, their talking points getting stranger and stranger (forced abortion, euthanasia, dieting, nothing can be or should be done for the undeserving hopelessly poor, people need stability not change, this is all a socialist/nazi Kenyan conspiracy), and people are not in a frame of mind to hear them.

But here is a suggestion. They are effective, not despite the fact that they are crazy, but BECAUSE they are crazy. Look at the examples they themselves point to again and again when they argue that government is incompetent: FEMA. The agency that THEY hollowed out and destroyed. Look at their worries about cost-controls and runaway deficits; what comes to mind? The fiscal incompetence of Republicans, the absence of cost-control measures in Medicare Part D. Look at their arguments about government encroachment in people's personal lives; what comes to mind? Gay-bashing, abortion restrictions, religious organizations dictating social policy. Look at their arguments against the complexity of the health care proposal, with their flow-chart grandstanding: WE'RE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THIS!

What's going on? The Republicans have knocked points (1) and (2) off their Rhetorical checklist. They are no longer trusted, and don't care. And they don't care if you think they are stupid, ignorant, and ill-intentioned. They no longer care if their arguments make no sense. All that matters is putting the audience into a state of fear. And the crazier they seem, the more the audience will feel afraid; Of them. For, when you look at them, you may still believe the best of all possible outcomes may be a Democratic reformed health care service, overseen by Democrats. But the worst of all possible outcomes is a Democratic reformed health care service, overseen by these crazy corrupt idiots. In a nutshell, the Republicans' best argument against health care reform is themselves:

"Look at us, WE could one day be running this program!"

It's the offspring of the old Republican strategy: Run for office arguing that government is incompetent, and when elected prove you're right. Now they have, spectacularly, proven themselves right, and are running hard with that evidence.

So how do you counteract this strategy? Here's my rather Machiavellian suggestion: Argue that Republicans are competent and well-meaning. When arguing with Tommy Thompson, give as an example of well-run government health care his own stellar management of Medicare. When arguing about cost-controls, point to the brain-child of Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, where tweaks to this Republican universal health care plan are fixing the cost-problems that have cropped up.  Point to the amazing Republican creation and management of the VA, the finest government-run health-care system in the world. Praise to the high heavens the Republican-inspired IMAC in the current proposal - an ingenious way to do non-partisan cost-benefit analysis. Republicans can run government spectacularly well. Even the present bunch are brilliant, successful, honest public servants who love America.

I say this strategy is Machiavellian, because I have no idea whether any of these claims are true. AND I DON'T CARE. People will only feel comfortable with greater government involvement in health care if they feel more comfortable with the possibility of Republicans running it.


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Where is the enterprising, Machiavellian Republican who will offer a bolder, more beautiful lie -- announcing without a blush that public option is a quagmire and that what this country really needs is Single Payer? At which point he, or she could wave a proposal for same written by Democrats while boasting that Republicans have to take charge of this proposal because Democrats are fiscally irresponsible (meanwhile changing not one word).
Wouldn't that be a win/win? Suddenly a bi-partisan proposal everyone can get behind because it's theirs?

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Oh Wendy, my whole post is starting to remind me of Edmund Blackadder:

"I fear the words "I have a cunning plan" are rapidly marching towards this conversation with ill-deserved confidence."

;0)

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Ack! My favorite Blackadder quote:

Nursie: "Ointment. That's what you need when your head's been cut off. That's what I gave your sister Mary when they done her. 'There, there,' I said. 'You'll soon grow an new one.'"

That's what the Republican party is missing.

Ointment.

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LOL. Yes, ointment, and a nice soft rubber room where they can bounce off the walls perhaps...

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You know what? It couldn't hurt!

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Dont know why Stilli, but these days, and with this bunch, being kind to Republicans does tend to hurt... But I try to better myself.

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I would counter with Socrates’ great-grand-grand niece-in-law, the enigmatic “Aquarius Hippieus ” who recently appeared as shadow dialogue on “The Best Political Team Money Can Buy on Television” show.

Republican’t: "Free markets are more efficient than Government services, so government should stay out of health care".

Hippieus: “Free markets have proven to be deficient in providing for human rights such as health care.”

Republican’t: “These are hard times, so the government must tighten its belt.”

Hippieus: “Government services are more equitable than free markets
who value belts over food.

(offered sans apologia - I just can’t be that nice ;~) and prefer sucking up like Lady Mercy Mercy.

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LOL! I'll concede, the frog can destroy in two words what republicans build in a lifetime.

I've done better than this, i guess. Left alot on the cutting-room floor, as they say. Perhaps too much.

Thanks for stopping by, Strato!!
;0)

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Good thoughts Obey - which raise a number of thoughts for me.

You note ""High corporate profits is a sign of a good company, therefore high profits in the health care industry mean the corporations are good at what they do."

Counter: High corporate profits means a bunch of people are getting screwed. Either the workers, the customers, the tax payers, or the environment. If they are still with you, continue with ... If an insurance company is showing massive profits it is because they are refusing to pay for people's care.

You note:"Free markets are more efficient than Government services, so government should stay out of health care".

Response: Can you give me one example?

Possible counter response: Hurricane Katrina

Our response: That was because FEMA was gutted by George Bush and turned over to his cronies (remember "Heck of a job Brownie?")

In terms of the strategy to defang the Republicans - I don't think that playing nice works - it sure hasn't for Obama or the Dems.

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You note:"Free markets are more efficient than Government services, so government should stay out of health care".

How about this:

Government services should be effective first, efficient second.

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Well, I wasn't really wanting to suggest 'play nice'. It's fundamentally about playing to the preconceived ill-formed notion that the quiet majority have regarding mistrust of government - in terms of competence and intentions. I don't think there are easy arguments that get people unstuck from that hardened frame of mind. Unless you neuter the arguments of Republican talking heads by bringing to light the underlying assumption of their arguments: WE have been running the country for 20 of the past 30 years, and WE are incompetent.

anyway , just a small suggestion in a larger puzzle...

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I actually heard one conservative say when asked about the 50 mill with coverage: Oh they are taken care of. Do not worry yourself about them.

ST. ELSEWHERE

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Dick, did you see Kristol on TDS?
- Do the American people deserve the best health care?
- No they don't.

I mean, you're not necessarily evil if you're ignorant and think everyone is taken care of. But what if you think "these people deserve to die"? And you say it with a smile. And you are the 'civilized' face of conservatism. How the hell do you talk to these people...?

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You don't talk to them. They are illogical assholes who are ignorant of history, as Kristol readily demonstrates every time he opens his mouth. Either he is an idiot or a liar, but either way talking to him is a waste of time. Democrats must talk around the Hairdos to address who they are talking to at the grassroots.

Brilliant tactic, by the way, to make support of progressive health reform tied to "successes" of republicans past.

I think there is an more effective tactic in reminding them of actual historical they can look up from early in the history of the republican party that were extremely progressive and sustainable, like the National Parks system and emancipation and desegregation of the military, and remind them of public programs that everyone loves like Medicare and the VA and Social Security.

Great blog.

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Thanks Jason!

Yup, the idea is just to hold up before them a mirror that looks back on the truly constructive things the Republicans used to stand for. And then dare them to shoot it all down. Apparently as fpie suggests down below, they'll shoot at anything. The Cheney school of duck-hunting, as it were. I don't see how this ends well for them, when pushed far enough.

btw, we were talking about the Swiss system the other day. Found this link useful...
http://health-care.name/2009/03/04/swiping-ideas-from-the-swiss-2/

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Thanks for the link. That summarizes perfectly why I think a Swiss-style system will end up being the first reform package that Obama signs, with some uniquely American pieces accounted for such as Medicare and other government-run heath systems that the Swiss don't have.

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A few interesting points in that blog. The dynamics when reforms passed in 1994 were pretty different than the US right now. Basically health insurance was already dominantly non-profit. The big change was going from an employer mandate to individual mandate. Going Swiss right now would annihilate the business model of the whole insurance industry - a sea-change unlike anything the Swiss had to deal with. And the much lower rate of government subsidy necessary in Switzerland has something to do with the much lower poverty, unemployment rate. A lot of differences as well as useful ideas...

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Granted, they are different dynamics to be sure, but I think that common sense health insurance regulations would be supported in a bipartisan fashion and be designed to fix the wide-spread fraud and abuse that is perpetrated right now.

Adhering to those regulations would inevitably lead to the non-profit insurance model being dominant in this country and a Swiss-style reform to finish the job and take the Medicare/Medicaid weight from around our budgetary neck.

Rather than leading to single payer, I suspect this legislation will lead to medicine being mostly a non-profit and government affair.

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Thanks for that link Obey (but I still can't rec this post, current repubs are basically just troglodyte Megan McCardles)

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I understand, Sal. I can't rec this post either.
hahaha!

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I think you may be on to something - pretty good thoughts. I think the "Hippieus" type response requires people who are actually thinking and somewhat nuanced, and Americans are generally reactive. I think your approach also makes it so the reactive republicans in the debate will have to either insult themselves or huff-puff and look stupid. Win-win.

One point on FEMA. The wingnuts think FEMA is a plot to kill them ... thousands of caskets, "internment" camps, etc. etc. Just this week I had a conversation where I challenged one: "If your job was to PREPARE for a catastrophe that resulted in thousands of deaths and the loss of a city ... how would you prepare? A bunch of caskets and somewhere the displaced could live temporarily perhaps?" Idiot still thinks the government is out to kill him. Something to do with swine flue now.

Probably not germane to this conversation, but they pull out FEMA in fear campaigns for a reason - and it isn't as an example of incompetence.

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JEEZUS. I keep getting surprised about the level of crazy going on here. Thanks for that, kgb.

But that's actually about hitting the crazy button among wingnuts. And I was more concerned with what buttons it pushes in the persuadable middle. I certainly hope it plays differently, anyhow.

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The question I have and don't really have an answer for is this. Does it actually make a difference if dems or repubs are in charge? Our government having been corrupted by money from the private sector spans the entire political field of play.

It seems to me that the political parties are equally corrupt and equally unable to modify their corrupt behavior. Neither, no matter if they had 80% of senators and 80% of the house, will ever vote to change the unethical constructs that make the system corrupt.

Thus, it really comes down to individuals to make changes. We erroneously rely on a party but dems aren't getting it done even though they have an unprecedented level of control right now.

The fact is, if they really wanted to provide a cost effective system they would create a single payer scheme. Instead they insist upon a cost ineffective system that serves no other purpose than to generate profits for corporations.

The devisement of the system itself is ethically corrupt because it seeks an illogical purpose that is only nominally about delivering a product and very much about delivering profits.

There is just no way to misinterpret the goal. Our government and our elected officials are corrupt beyond any question in allowing for that alternative goal, generating profits for corporations, to be the primary factor driving this process.

They are very plainly ripping us off. Exactly what has been going on for longer than I can remember. This is just another method of wealth transference. End of story.

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"Does it actually make a difference if dems or repubs are in charge?"

- Well, there's a judgment about whether either party is good, and a judgment about which is the lesser evil. Set up a counterfactual: what if Gore won? Would the FIRE sector have eaten up as much of the economy? Yes. But would there have been 1 trillion in tax cuts for the rich? No. Would there have been another trillion in Iraq war costs? No. Would Greenspan have desperately pumped up a real-estate bubble by maintaining insanely low rates before the 04 election? No. Seriously, we'd be in much better shape in a lot of ways. Fiscally, in terms of pollution-regulation, wages.

But you're right, the corruption now goes to the core. People only see the surface - with an eye on campaign contributions to Congress. But if you look at the corruption of academic studies, the intermediary think-tank applied studies, and the lobbyists writing the legislation based on those studies, everything is skewed towards corporate interests. Because they pay for the research all the way through the pipeline. Look at economics departments. How many prestigious PhD's are getting churned out under the watchful eye of corporate hacks like Feldstein and Mankiw? And where do these people end up? Running the CBO, determining hiring practices in academic departments, running think-tanks. Look at the whole Chicago School. It used to be academically serious, and now it's wingnut-central. I don't know how you start to fix this...

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You're right Obey. Things have gone way off track. We've bred an entire generation of business persons who see business purely in profit terms and which has adopted the provisioning of the product as coincidental. The wignut central expression you refer to is most apparent where no matter how silly or inefficient a business process may be, if it enhances revenue it is deemed good.

This becomes even more wingnut central where the idea of keeping inflation in check has been an entirely false premise. Price inflation has been rampant. We have huge inflation, all on the supply side. This ends up as nothing less than a huge fucking lie.

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While reading this post I've been listening to a discussion of the health care debate online. The pundit from "The Washington Times" actually used GWB's srewing up of the VA health care as the rebutal, stating that, 'sure VA has the best health care available and is socialized medicine but that's just for now when Obama is in charge. Remember when Bush had it all screwed up?' I near fell off my chair and now here Obey is laying it out. If I'd read this fifteen minutes ago I would have taken this as pure comedy.
We certainly do live in interesting times. And they are getting interestinger and inerestinger.

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Fpie, thanks for that! I hadn't seen it done that explicitly so far, it was just there simmering below the surface of the talking points. Yeah, we really are in a world beyond satire now.

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We've seen what 8 years of Republican runned government looks like. A Republican's concept for running health care would be to privatize it and put a crony Republicans in charge of each entity, who would be willing to kick back profits to the Republican party. Oh wait, that's exactly what we have today!

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Yes, GTFOOH, it's a scary thought - a new republican administration. That was what set me off on this. Just projecting my own fears, and see how well that might fit. But the thing is, if the Republicans get back into power, I sincerely believe it won't look anything like the present bunch of lunatics. They're not even trying to pretend that they can run anything. If they want power to do something other than obstruct, they have to start looking and acting like they actually can and want to run government.

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Sorry, GTFOOH, just realized I may have gotten your point all wrong. Yes, most of the Dems are corrupt corporate shills as well, but given a choice between something and nothing, well...

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Actually, you got it right the first time! Yeah, dems can screw up a P&J lunch. But at least they are trying to serve.

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