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Thank you for being ever so clear and correct to draw the line in the sand, House Progressives! I am committed to do everything I can to de-throne any blue dog or conservadem in the Senate if they do not support a public option.
In my mind, there are only two possibilities for what is going on politically; (1: Obama is willingly to spend some capital and draw every fucking republican out until they actually vote against health care reform so clearly the blame will rest on any politician who blocks it or (2: he has already dealt away the public option and wants to salvage anything he can so health care reform gets thru the Senate and he can then claim victory.
Obama is the ultimate communicator and speech giver so why are we dangling everyday on what the fuck is the message. Let's assume Obama is the most honest and ethical man to be President so why isn't he taking control and serving the people who elected him to office while the GOP Senators can go out and speak lies and utilize the most unethical talking points of fear and pandering. Obama still praises these GOP hacks as working hard for health care reform.
I don't see any other scenarios that explain this constant message battle w/in his White House and he inability to articulate his "line drawn in the sand". What do you think?


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Well, I think you should follow directions to be found at OGD's most recent post and call us in the morning. The public option is not going to be dealt away.

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I think the reason why Obama is not pushing hard on the "public option" is because a large portion of the American public seems against it. It's that simple. If it were something that was more supported by polling data, then I think we'd see Obama take a harder stance.

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Huh? A very large portion is against it? Like what; maybe 20%! The same lunatic fringe that thinks George Bush was the best Prez ever!

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/new-surveyusa-poll-shows-support-for-public-option-hasnt-dipped.php

The latest poll asked how important a Public Option is as a choice for health care:

Fifty-eight percent of respondents said "extremely important." Nineteen said "quite important": a total of 77 percent. The rest of respondents said the choice of a public option was not important or weren't sure.

So, MCB, in honor of the troops, could ya just stop makin' things up?

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Well I guess I put more weight in an NBC/WSJ poll than one that's commissioned by MoveOn.org

I am not making things up. Just putting more faith in a poll done by two institutions that I trust more than MoveOn.

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Well I guess I put more weight in an NBC/WSJ poll than one that's commissioned by MoveOn.org

I am not making things up. Just putting more faith in a poll done by two institutions that I trust more than MoveOn.

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WSJ: Wall Street Journal - need we say more?

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Did you miss the "NBC" part? Plus, outside of the Editorial pages, the WSJ is a great news source, just like the NYT, WaPo, LA Times, etc.

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NBC has its own particular motives which don't happen to jive with "common good"... and WaPo is currently in the business of hosting thousand dollar a plate dinners for Washington's elite - no conflict of interest there, eh? BTW - did anyone NOT see the writing on the wall when Murdoch purchased the Wall Street Journal? The WSJ is a "great" news source if you're one of those who thinks that Fox "News" is a great news source.

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Did Murdoch change the editorial staff? Don't think so. He may now own the paper but I haven't seen any change in Editorial spin since he bought it.

And did the editorial board of the WSJ have any involvement in conducting the poll?? I don't think so.


PS - WaPo had nothing to do with the poll.

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