Why should I support THIS stimulus bill?
It's only week three of the Obama administration, so I find it kind of
amusing when news anchors say things like, "Has the Obama
administration lost control of [insert agenda item]?"
That said...it's hard to deny that the Obama administration appears to have lost control of the conversation on the stimulus bill...if indeed it ever had such control.
I work in a newsroom, and we have a bank of televisions tuned to several news channels. And every night, all night, they carry discussions of what's wrong with the Obama/Democratic stimulus bill. Sometimes there's a Democrat there, more often a Democratic pundit, who says the economy is in crisis and something needs to be done.
But here's the thing: I'm a pretty informed guy. I consume news voraciously. I know something needs to be done. I don't know why this particular stimulus package deserves my support. Frankly, I don't even know exactly what's in it. I know what Republicans want to be in the bill. I know what Republicans don't like about the bill. But I have yet to see or hear a Democratic member of Congress out on the news shows explaining what exactly is in the bill and why these specific things will be good for us Americans.
I understand that Obama wants to remain open to changes advocated by Republicans. But you've got to sell your version first.
Working in a newsroom, I understand this isn't all Democrats' fault. Media will go for controversy by default. When a plan comes out, the first thing a producer asks is, "Ok, who opposes this plan?" And the Republicans are more than happy to oblige.
And, let me add that I think I understand Obama's behind-the-scenes strategy and it has potential. By wining and dining Republicans at the White House, he is trying to change the tone, make Republican moderates feel comfortable working with him. This could yield some results, as personal relationships in Washington count for a lot. Did you see Susan Collins beaming on her way out of a WH meeting today? She told reporters she and Obama had a substantive discussion, and she went on to name a couple of perfectly reasonable things about which she had concerns (e.g., State Department upgrades - sure, could create a couple jobs, but shouldn't it go through the normal appropriations process?).
Changing the tone, and the benefits it could bring, are going to take a long time after so many years of partisan hatred. But unilateral disarmament is one thing when it comes to White House cocktail parties - quite another when it comes to shaping public opinion. If this stimulus is full of things on which Obama campaigned, we need to know about it, so we can embrace it. The perception of this bill when it's passed may well have an impact on how well it's perceived to work down the road. I don't want to feel like we as a country are grudgingly accepting this bill. If it doesn't work as well as expected, people may start remembering all those Republicans they saw on the TV warning them about it (and the fact that their warnings were intellectually dishonest won't matter by then).
That said...it's hard to deny that the Obama administration appears to have lost control of the conversation on the stimulus bill...if indeed it ever had such control.
I work in a newsroom, and we have a bank of televisions tuned to several news channels. And every night, all night, they carry discussions of what's wrong with the Obama/Democratic stimulus bill. Sometimes there's a Democrat there, more often a Democratic pundit, who says the economy is in crisis and something needs to be done.
But here's the thing: I'm a pretty informed guy. I consume news voraciously. I know something needs to be done. I don't know why this particular stimulus package deserves my support. Frankly, I don't even know exactly what's in it. I know what Republicans want to be in the bill. I know what Republicans don't like about the bill. But I have yet to see or hear a Democratic member of Congress out on the news shows explaining what exactly is in the bill and why these specific things will be good for us Americans.
I understand that Obama wants to remain open to changes advocated by Republicans. But you've got to sell your version first.
Working in a newsroom, I understand this isn't all Democrats' fault. Media will go for controversy by default. When a plan comes out, the first thing a producer asks is, "Ok, who opposes this plan?" And the Republicans are more than happy to oblige.
And, let me add that I think I understand Obama's behind-the-scenes strategy and it has potential. By wining and dining Republicans at the White House, he is trying to change the tone, make Republican moderates feel comfortable working with him. This could yield some results, as personal relationships in Washington count for a lot. Did you see Susan Collins beaming on her way out of a WH meeting today? She told reporters she and Obama had a substantive discussion, and she went on to name a couple of perfectly reasonable things about which she had concerns (e.g., State Department upgrades - sure, could create a couple jobs, but shouldn't it go through the normal appropriations process?).
Changing the tone, and the benefits it could bring, are going to take a long time after so many years of partisan hatred. But unilateral disarmament is one thing when it comes to White House cocktail parties - quite another when it comes to shaping public opinion. If this stimulus is full of things on which Obama campaigned, we need to know about it, so we can embrace it. The perception of this bill when it's passed may well have an impact on how well it's perceived to work down the road. I don't want to feel like we as a country are grudgingly accepting this bill. If it doesn't work as well as expected, people may start remembering all those Republicans they saw on the TV warning them about it (and the fact that their warnings were intellectually dishonest won't matter by then).
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Excellent points here in basic political communication. The Obama people have done a poor job in getting their message across about the bill. They apparently assumed that if you're making nicee with the enemy behind the scenes then you don't do anything that they wouldn't like publicly. But of course, the opposite is true. You have a full court press privately and publicly. The two needn't look like eachother. The Obama people adn the Dems on the Hill have done little to explain their position to the public and so are perceived to be losing the battle and that appears to be the truth right now but it needn't remain so.
February 5, 2009 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I expect to see more hardball leadership from Obama instead of the namby-pamby stuff he's mostly been spouting.
Public opinion is both fickle and usually irrelevant.
I expect some billions of reductions and its passage this month.
February 5, 2009 4:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you'll be waiting a while, eds. I've given up on Obama. He is an idealist after all, not the pragmatist I was hoping he would be. The Dems also need to kick Pelosi and Reid out of leadership positions, but I have no idea who might be better. Dems have been watching the republican example for so long, I think they have forgotten how to govern effectively.
February 5, 2009 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for a very interesting and substantive read.
February 5, 2009 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Someone more versed in congressional procedures please explain where we are in the process...
Assuming the Senate passes its bill, it will need to be reconciled with the House version, correct? What's the process for that?
February 5, 2009 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I find it astounding how badly the Dems are handling the Republican leadership. You'd think that after all these years of dealing with Re-thugs taught the fine art of political grandstanding, bait and switch, and spin, by the likes of Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay, that the Dem Leadership would have some clue about how to handle them. You don't even begin to get what you need from R's by starting out offering them the hand of bipartisanship (remember they call that "date-rape"), unless you're prepared to draw back a bloody stump. You START by punching them square in the face, and after you let it soak in a minute, THEN you offer a hand up off the floor. To do any less starts you off from a position of weakness that you will forevermore have difficulty working from. Republicans only respect strength- and their definition of strength does not include being so secure in your manhood that you offer your cheek rather than your fist. The only way to gain Rethugs cooperation is to SHOW them that you are in charge, that elections do indeed have consequences, and that reward comes ONLY with cooperation.
February 5, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly so. You've described the situation very, very well.
Apparently, it has been so long since the Congressional Democrats have had any balls or stood up for themselves it looks like they don't know how to do it. I am always reminded of the scene in Saving Private Ryan when the one soldier is in an upper room of a house fighting hand to hand for his life with a German soldier and screaming for help from the corporal downstairs whose job it was to feed him more ammo. Upham was the corporal's name.
Upham has a weapon and lots of ammo and all he has to do to save his fellow American's life is high tail it up there and shoot the German. Instead, he is so enveloped in fear he is frozen on the steps of the house, whimpering, crying, shaking but unable to summon the courage to help his comrade in arms.
The German slowly plunges a knife into the American soldier's throat killing him, then he gets up and heads down the stairs where Upham remains shivering and whimpering in abject fear. The large, fierce German (who, but for Upham's cowardice, ought to be dead)sees Upham, quickly sizes him up, snears at him and walks by him on the stairway leaving him there unharmed.
He knew with just one look at Upham that he was no threat at all and didn't even have enough respect for the cowardly corporal to fight him in any way. That scene always comes to mind when I see the Democrats getting their asses handed to them time after time in Washington even when they are in the majority. It's enough to make you puke. Who can respect such cowardice?
February 5, 2009 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go to war first before you start using Spielbergian smoke and mirrors to prove your point. Or at least study war from the safety of a classroom or library. As a vet I can safely say that Spielberg exploited your naivete and has promoted a false sense of the nature of armed combat.
February 5, 2009 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's an analogy zip. It is used to illustrate the dynamics of the situation I described.
If your statement is meant to excuse the cowardice of the Democrats (and I hope it is not) then I just say bosh!
February 5, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
And BTW--that you are a veteran is nice, but totally irelevant both to the situation being discussed and to the specific analogy.
February 5, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your analogy is crap because it is a Hollywood take on combat. Combat doesn't work that way... the clean lens exposing the friction and fog that dominates the combat environment. Someone may freeze delivering ammo not out of fear but out of combat stress simply disengaging the brain from their limbs. The noise could be generating shock symptoms.
The reason why I am saying this is that you are bringing a superficial attitude to a complicated process. You presume cowardice where corruption, mixed interests, region, and other factors play a part. I am using my credibility as a veteran to point out that you are using a poor analogy to reinforce a narrow view.
This whole thread reinforces a narrow media-driven view, and you think you are on the right side of history and history should simply acquiesce to your superior conviction. It is not so simple as that. Just as the ammo runner/gunner is not simply a coward who should sack up the nuts to do his duty.
February 5, 2009 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
To clarify:
You, the audience watching the war, see a coward. In combat, everyone is afraid and it is up to small unit leaders to manage the fear through direct orders that best engage their subordinates training. In a battle such as Speilberg presents, the combat has already broken down to chaos. Anyone left on their own is going to become an animal: fight or flight... there is no leadership reinforcement.
Maybe this can shed a little light on why this particular comment offended me. War and combat analogies are simply inappropriate when delivered so glibly by an armchair general.
February 5, 2009 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Duh. It still is beside the point.
February 6, 2009 1:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are a marine and know something about that. I am someone who has spent decades in politics and government. I kow something about that. When I say they are cowards I'm not assuming that from media reports. I know they are being cowards. I've been in rooms where these people operate, listened to the things they say, understand their motives from observation and interaction. They are cowards. Their cowardice sometimes springs from some of the things you mention, but it's cowardice all the same.
February 6, 2009 1:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
They are being handled... a compromised stimulus bill will be passed, and it is not what the Republicans want. We won... it is not a perfect victory, but victories never are.
February 5, 2009 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also:
The Democrat story has been sold. Something needs to be done, and it needs to be infrastructure, not a host of tax cuts. Most Americans seem to be buying that. You are assuming a loss that does not exist.
You work in a newsroom and are promoting the standard media narrative. Forgive me if I don't buy it.
February 5, 2009 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
But here's the thing: I'm a pretty informed guy. I consume news voraciously.
That is how I feel. If I do not understand this banking crap, how many others do?
The New Prez is out there today doing a sales job. Matthews is much less hard on him and the bill as he was yesterday.
Oratory is his power, and he is back using it.
This might get through tonight. The Senate, that is. Then Reid meets with Pelosi. It will be a very small group and I assume, the Prez will have his say in that small meeting.
February 5, 2009 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you're sufficiently insightful, you don't have to consume news voraciously. Spend your time more enjoyably. Razzing people up on these blogs for instance.
February 5, 2009 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The support is whithering away because that's all you see on the major television networks, R's getting more face time on television than is warranted. Yeah, there's pork in there ....so what....big effin deal.... everybody has their paws on this thing and it's gonna look unrecognizable by tomorrow evening if Obama doesn't take charge, right away, and away from both sides of the aisle.... have yet to see any of the major anchors ASKING the Republican leadership and party if they are being obstructionists.
February 5, 2009 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama take charge? Hell, he's president. What do you mean 'take charge'? He's 'in charge'!!
February 5, 2009 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink