Bad Technique: Worse than None at All??
Maybe, maybe not.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/12/get_a_grip_palins_candidacy_ha/
This post got my interest today. Actually, it wasn't the post as much as it was some of the commenters, especially this one by Bademus...
It isn't that Obama has earned my vote - he hasn't (FISA, for one) - but that I have to vote against McCain. I don't like the Religious Right and they do NOT need a foot in the door. More women are starting to trickle in, too. I SEE the interest from them; I work on my friends, they will listen to me. But the others want to hear from the Obama campaign, and neither they nor Obama is DOING anything to get the damn votes!
Women tend to personalize things, and some, when they have a breakup, can't just get up and go right on. You would think men would know this by now, but maybe they don't. I don't think it's the best technique, to woo injured parties by saying "Get over it"? Bademus, while on the right track, is getting blindsided by idealism.
While I don't think PUMA is a "cult" per se, I think it's definitely one of those Delphi-technique type of approaches that the Republicans are using to get the Democratic female base - you know, the part that actually shows up to vote - over to the dark side. I can smell Delphi a mile away, school administrators use it on parents all the time...
Murphy (Republican, head of PUMA) shows up with sympathy for the Hillary supporters, feeds them BS (i.e. 'Roe V. Wade doesn't count!'), gets tons of media attention somehow, and eggs them on. Some of these women now are only out for revenge. They don't care about anything except how they or Hillary has been treated. Why did the Dems even allow That foot in the door?
I am from PA, and all these Republicans who I knew were going to sit this one out are now VERY turned on by The Moosehunter. These aren't rural Republicans, either - these are suburbanites, women who want to be turned on, or PUMAs.
In picking Palin, McCain gave himself a testosterone injection; he was dearly in need of one, and it worked. Biden helped Obama in that vein, but he's not the solution. Those women that hightailed it over the PUMA, they aren't putting up with limp. That's their message to you, really. And the ones who want to jump ship are thinking, Get some spine, get some Viagra, DO something!! Woo me!!
You can't count on the student vote. My husband teaches college in one of the bigger suburban u's here. There were 1000 Dem students registered in the primary to vote on campus, but only 437 came out to vote!!! Hardball was even there, in all its' Obama glory, on top of it. GOTV better Get Off The Couch and haul these kids' hungover butts to the polls.
The Obama campaign REEKS of bad technique. He definitely has a reason to worry about PA. - and probably Ohio, VA, and a few others. Maybe he needs to put Oprah in charge - he's got to pull out ALL the stops, or McCain is going to win Big.
The Democrats overestimating the stupidity of the average Sheeple, or underestimating the scumbag capacity of the Republicans, should not be a problem yet again. But it IS - and it's a BIG problem. They MUST NOT forget why Gore and Kerry "lost." I would hope to hell TPTB are not that stupid, or that limp. Then again....
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/12/get_a_grip_palins_candidacy_ha/
This post got my interest today. Actually, it wasn't the post as much as it was some of the commenters, especially this one by Bademus...
There is another issue here that I think is huge and hasn't received any attention. I have seen in comments in locations all over the web and heard from others an argument from women that goes something like this:I am a recent convert, was a Hillary supporter (but not necessarily a PUMA). After the election, I was just disgusted, and many women like myself just didn't want to go vote after all of that. The only reason I decided to get off the couch was because of Palin."I don't agree with Sarah Palin on abortion but I like her (enter something here relating to image/personality, not issues). I'm not worried about the abortion issue because they won't be able to overturn it. Congress would never allow it, women would march, there's too much opposition to making it illegal."
I keep hearing this - I think this view is prevalent in the women who are drawn to Palin. These women need somehow to be reached so they understand that roe vs. wade will indeed be overturned with McCain.
It isn't that Obama has earned my vote - he hasn't (FISA, for one) - but that I have to vote against McCain. I don't like the Religious Right and they do NOT need a foot in the door. More women are starting to trickle in, too. I SEE the interest from them; I work on my friends, they will listen to me. But the others want to hear from the Obama campaign, and neither they nor Obama is DOING anything to get the damn votes!
Women tend to personalize things, and some, when they have a breakup, can't just get up and go right on. You would think men would know this by now, but maybe they don't. I don't think it's the best technique, to woo injured parties by saying "Get over it"? Bademus, while on the right track, is getting blindsided by idealism.
C4Logic: I never believed the PUMA's were advocates of a progressive Democrat agenda. They have some cult of personality obsession with Hillary, as a political strategy for Republicans.
While I don't think PUMA is a "cult" per se, I think it's definitely one of those Delphi-technique type of approaches that the Republicans are using to get the Democratic female base - you know, the part that actually shows up to vote - over to the dark side. I can smell Delphi a mile away, school administrators use it on parents all the time...
Murphy (Republican, head of PUMA) shows up with sympathy for the Hillary supporters, feeds them BS (i.e. 'Roe V. Wade doesn't count!'), gets tons of media attention somehow, and eggs them on. Some of these women now are only out for revenge. They don't care about anything except how they or Hillary has been treated. Why did the Dems even allow That foot in the door?
I am from PA, and all these Republicans who I knew were going to sit this one out are now VERY turned on by The Moosehunter. These aren't rural Republicans, either - these are suburbanites, women who want to be turned on, or PUMAs.
In picking Palin, McCain gave himself a testosterone injection; he was dearly in need of one, and it worked. Biden helped Obama in that vein, but he's not the solution. Those women that hightailed it over the PUMA, they aren't putting up with limp. That's their message to you, really. And the ones who want to jump ship are thinking, Get some spine, get some Viagra, DO something!! Woo me!!
You can't count on the student vote. My husband teaches college in one of the bigger suburban u's here. There were 1000 Dem students registered in the primary to vote on campus, but only 437 came out to vote!!! Hardball was even there, in all its' Obama glory, on top of it. GOTV better Get Off The Couch and haul these kids' hungover butts to the polls.
The Obama campaign REEKS of bad technique. He definitely has a reason to worry about PA. - and probably Ohio, VA, and a few others. Maybe he needs to put Oprah in charge - he's got to pull out ALL the stops, or McCain is going to win Big.
The Democrats overestimating the stupidity of the average Sheeple, or underestimating the scumbag capacity of the Republicans, should not be a problem yet again. But it IS - and it's a BIG problem. They MUST NOT forget why Gore and Kerry "lost." I would hope to hell TPTB are not that stupid, or that limp. Then again....
