Inside the Baucus-Single Payer Meeting--What Was Said, What's Next
Today's meeting of the nation's leading single payer activists with Sen. Max Baucus was historic, and a recognition of the power of the tens of thousands of nurses, doctors, and grassroots activists across the country who have been turning up the heat on the policy makers in Washington.
Make no mistake - your voices are being heard. And, the protests and pressure will continue.
As Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, told Baucus, "there is a groundswell" across the country that will continue to press for single payer reform, and Baucus and other policy makers in Washington "are going to get to know us very well." In a later press conference, DeMoro blasted the conventional wisdom that single payer is not politically viable. "Is it politically viable to let people die and suffer from a lack of political will?" Noting the fight for women's suffrage and the civil rights movement, she emphasized, "we're going to have to turn up the heat. Women did not get the right to vote by voting on it."
Today's gripping meeting was in itself an important part of that campaign, with leaders of the CNA/NNOC, Physicians for a National Health Program, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, author of a single payer bill in the Senate, S 703, making a forceful, unfiltered case to one of the top power brokers in the Senate, Max Baucus, for single payer as the only reform likely to actually fix our broken healthcare system and effectively control costs. A couple of photos from the press conference afterwards are here.
For the first time, Baucus, who has been deluged with protests inside his Senate Finance Committee which has been in the forefront of drafting legislation and in town hall meetings at home in Montana, was apologetic. "I made a mistake," he said, "I should have left it (single payer) on the table, front and center with everything else."
Baucus talked about his own positive experiences in Canada where he inspected the Canadian healthcare system first hand, "I was very impressed," during the healthcare debate in the early 1990s, noting the contrast between a Montana hospital which has an "entire floor" of people devoted to billing, and other administrative paper work, and a nearby Canadian hospital which does it all "in one room."
He agreed to use the power of his office to have charges dropped against the Baucus 13, nurses, doctors, and activists arrested for raising their voices in the committee hearings.
While Baucus continued to aver that single payer can not pass the legislature, the nurses and doctors pressed him to:
- Hold a hearing in which the merits of single payer can be contrasted with the plans now rapidly advancing in the Senate. While Baucus said the tight timeline made that very difficult, Sanders noted that Sen. Chris Dodd is considering a health committee hearing on single payer, which Baucus could co-sponsor. Baucus said, "let me think about it."
- Have the Congressional Budget Office score, do a financial analysis, of single payer legislation in addition to other health bills it scores.
- Support legislation to allow federal waivers for individual states to enact single payer systems as national role models (another Sanders bill).
- Assist in arranging a similar meeting between single payer leaders and President Obama.
Ultimately, Baucus threw the ball back to the President, citing the demand of the President to Congress to have a bill on his desk by October. "He wants a big win on healthcare reform," Baucus said.
But the rush to adopt a flawed bill would hardly serve the Senate or the President well, DeMoro noted. "The President would be putting himself in a very bad position. We don't want that to happen."
One after one, the other participants made compelling cases for single payer. Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, noted that only single payer can achieve effective cost controls. The alternatives being considered are "all unaffordable and unsustainable. Why pour more money into a dysfunctional system."
PNHP co-founder Dr. David Himmelstein said "the decision should be made on what's going to work." He cited the Massachusetts law, where he lives, which is considered a model for both the Baucus proposal and the pending Kennedy bill. The bill is rapidly "fraying," said Himmelstein. Some 28,000 state residents are about to be cut off of subsidized coverage because the state can't afford it, and new studies show conditions for many state residents back to where they were before the bill was passed with inadequate or no coverage, and medical bills they can't pay.
Geri Jenkins, RN, Co-President of CNA/NNOC, said "we need evidence based policy," and all the evidence shows that single payer is the best way to contain costs, improve quality, and achieve universality.
PNHP President Dr. Oliver Fein cited the study last year reported in the Annals of Internal Medicine that 59 percent of physicians support a single-payer type system, and a new study showing doctors waste three to four weeks a year on paperwork that could be spent caring for patients.
Sanders later praised the efforts of nurses, doctors and activists who have made single payer an inescapable part of the public discourse. "When you have the nurses and physicians saying the current system is not working," scores of people saying health care is a right and single payer the most cost effective approach, we're seeing this grassroots movement growing and gaining momentum.
If you agree, why don't you fax Max Baucus, maybe a couple times, and let him know that we need real healthcare reform, not lobbyist-driven pablum and nonsense statements.
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Hats off to the activists in the medical profession! Other activists are critical, too of course, but your voices lend an extra wollop speaking as you do from the inside. Kudos!
June 3, 2009 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder why nobody asks the probing question about the naked emperor -- when Baucus says single payer cannot pass but polls show majorities in favor of it.
What kind of "democracy" is this when the option that is favored by majorities is assumed to be unpassable? BROKEN democracy, that's what kind. Otherwise known as oligarchy.
June 3, 2009 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get off yer ass and quit bitchin about oligarchy tigger and write Baucus, Kennedy, Rangle, and your local reps and senators. You get the government you deserve and you'll get that oligarchy if you don't speak up.
June 4, 2009 12:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
What do you think I been doin?
Sending faxes, donating money, writing letters, yada yada. Since 1994.
June 4, 2009 1:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention that one can write letters to people all they want, but if it isn't from the representative's home state, it won't be read. The system has done a good job of insulating the leaders of this country from the led.
June 4, 2009 6:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
There will be rallies tomorrow at Baucus offices here in Montana at Noon. But this is probably Max's last term and he was just re-elected by a landslide (that's another whole diary of how we are bought cheaply with parking garages and road repair), so pressure from voters is not what is working. Confrontation is working. Shaming him is working. Muddying his name is working. Nobody even a Congress critter likes to be called out as a weasel. Two weeks ago, most Americans didn't know his name. Now it is become synonymous with greed and arrogance.
So suggestions for my sign at tomorrow's rally?
One idea I had was "No Single Payer? No Baucus National Forest". Max is rich, but he doesn't have a legacy yet.
Another idea:
"Max, Become the Tommy Douglas of the USA"
The nurse said it all "We are going to have to turn up the heat". That means a national strike and confronting the greedheads.
June 4, 2009 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
The reason he was reelected in a landslide was that most people didn't show him the door in the primaries, though I love the idea of people getting involved locally during a non-election year. That is a great trend.
The incumbent advantage in American politics is a truly Machiavellian masterstroke by the "leaders" of this country. Until we break that cycle via the under-utilized primary system, protests will only get so far. Shaming will help give us the appearance of movement while the status quo is upheld in private.
The backroom dealing will still be a closed event.
June 4, 2009 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody that challenges the boys here in Montana is subjected to a whole lot of intimidation. I had no idea when I became politically active in 2004 that there were so many bullies in state politics. Silly me. I thought you could change the system from within. Ha! Ha! So I'm ending my 4 year sojourn as a county chair and taking it back to the streets. I'm too much of a maverick to be a toady.
June 4, 2009 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I say take it to the streets and do an end-run around the bullies. With an average of 14% to 18% turnout for most mid-term primaries, it wouldn't take many additional voters to start cleaning house. I'm with you though on the staying active from now on.
I wasn't politically aware until 2004 as well and won't be going back to sleep. Eleanor Holmes-Norton should be happy she doesn't have a vote because I wouldn't leave her alone. That is another incumbent that needs to go, but in DC we have the opposite problem. No one turns out for the general, because all the decisions are made in the primary.
Montana seems a good test case for changing hearts and minds that tilt rightward, once you get past the good old boys and can articulate a common sense message directly to the grassroots. My grandma and aunts live in Livingston, so I'll be on the lookout for reports on your continuing efforts.
June 4, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a half hour from Livingston! Margot Kidder lives there and is one of the heads of the great activist group "Montana Women For". My co-host on my radio show lives in Livingston and is a Teamster. We are having Dr. Bob Putsch on Saturday to talk about single payer. He's from Washington State and has been helping us out here in Montana.
Tell your relatives to listen in on 1340am KPRK in Livingston on Saturdays from 2-5PM(1450am in Bozeman). We live stream at kmmsam.com.
We might get booted off though. They changed regimes and are even more extreme right than they were before.
June 4, 2009 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right on. I'll pass it along.
June 4, 2009 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well done, but he's only trying to placate the single payer advocates and get them off his back. Keep fighting!
June 4, 2009 1:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would like to see leaders of single payer create the largest coalition that they can and to stage some same day events throughout capitals and major cities across the country tying into all organizations that can help get people involved. Joining forces staging some events leading up to a national event. Even if is was a 'taking a stand for healthcare' and everyone that was not providing life saving/sustaining activities... everyone who was willing to take off work, etc. whatever we can do to stage a nationwide taking to the streets even if just for a hour... in a massive way (That's why it would take a build up of creating involvement with the coalition and getting building the number of people involved). I believe there are enough americans now that would get involved that this would be a significant statement across the country demonstrating that we want single payer... that 'we' have a voice just as big and valid as insurance providers.
I don't see how else we get taken seriously in this situation and it make take several acts and more time that we would like.
June 4, 2009 2:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
The coalition is already huge.
http://www.healthcare-now.org/2009/01/leadership-conference-for-guaranteed-health-care-officially-launches/
Can you name one other political cause in the USA that has that much support?
June 4, 2009 5:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
When it gets big enough it will be able to be effective enough to pull off something like what I've suggested here. Something that demonstrates how strongly the public is behind this. It will give those in Washington, including the president, the ability to push back with the insurance companies et al.
June 4, 2009 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clearly these providers cannot stand with a sign in front of their own clinic, but the rest of us can. It should be on a coordinated way/weekend, but we should have people outside every medical provider's office with the sign. Single-payer. It's the only way treatment is not restricted because of profits.
June 4, 2009 3:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not the only way treatment is not restricted by profits, but it is one good way. It is also a good way to force insurance companies to compete in a game that doesn't have killing patients as collateral damage. However, single payer isn't the only way to achieve those goals, just one good way to achieve them.
I would like to see someone discuss a non-profit context for health insurance companies forced on them by a very vigorous regulatory environment that makes it next to impossible to operate a for-profit model. Or maybe something that allows for national health care standards with local implementation, say via the existing Medicaid programs.
There are a lot more options available to us other than Single Payer or Status Quo with Mandated Coverage. I think Congress and the President are suffering from a lack of imagination as well as will.
June 4, 2009 6:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
The perfect system, IMHO, is based on a mutual insurance company. That was how insurance began and why it worked so well that the financial parasites showed up. When mutual insurance companies had so much money they were lowering premiums, the shareholder corporations bought them up to keep premiums high.
June 4, 2009 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you imagine a business model in which the tax payer provides for your most costly customer segment (Medicare) and gives you money directly for those who can't can't afford your product (subsidizing the uninsured?)
It is a matter of who is in charge around here! Bumper sticker talking point : "Insurance is NOT Health, Health Care, or all that Healthy!"
June 4, 2009 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink