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Chasm grows between Washington and everyone else on healthcare


"It would be nice if something made sense for a change." - Alice, from Alice in Wonderland.

 Perhaps we live in an alternative universe.

One in which two thirds of Americans want the government to guarantee healthcare for everyone, while the policy makers in Washington labor to craft a reform plan that caters first to the threats and demands of the insurance industry and the minority voices on Capitol Hill.

One in which the Senate Finance Committee plays congenial host to the insurance industry, the drug companies, and right wing think tanks and it's chairman Max Baucus can proclaim all options are on the table while slamming the door on the nurses and doctors -- and arresting them when they speak out.   Why? For advocating the most comprehensive, cost effective reform of all, a single payer/Medicare for all approach. 

One in which single payer is considered off the table inside the rarified airs of Congress, but when President Obama ventures into a town hall meeting with regular folks, the first question he is asked is:

"Why have they taken single-payer off the plate?" by one in the audience to great applause. "And why is Senator Baucus on the Finance Committee discussing health care when he has received so much money from the pharmaceutical companies? Isn't it a conflict of interest?"

Watch here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6d45duX_WU

And one in which Drew Altman, CEOI of the Kaiser Family Foundation can ponder today about how baffling it is that the "experts" -- presumably people like him who was given a seat at the table by Baucus -- sees the world so differently than the vast majority of Americans struggling to survive a cruel, inefficient, and inhumane healthcare system:

"Experts believe the health care system is full of unnecessary care and troubling variations in care, ... The public has a very different world view: People think that underservice is a bigger problem than overservice. They want relief from the problems they are having now paying for health care and health insurance in very tough economic times. ... And many are worried that they will not be able to afford their health insurance in the future or may lose it altogether."

The "experts" say the problem is too much "unnecessary" care. The public thinks too many people are being denied care they need.

The experts think costs are so high because consumers don't have enough "skin in the game" (i.e., we like to go to the doctor, get invasive tests, and endure long waits for care and high out of pocket costs). The public thinks the reason is "because drug and insurance companies make too much money."

The experts think health care information technology is a panacea to improve quality and cut costs. The public thinks it will probably increase costs (the Congressional Budget Office happens to agree) and are concerned about the privacy of their medical records.

The experts think we must have comparative research to limit future costs. The public thinks "insurers should pay even if their doctor recommends a treatment that has not been proven to be more effective than a cheaper one." (Imagine, getting the care you actually paid your insurance company to provide, what a concept)

Either we need to get more in tune with the self-appointed experts, or they ought to listen to what the people actually think. Or perhaps, as Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine told the Great Falls Tribune in Baucus' home state of Montana, "Single-payer is simply considered not realistic for a politician. The medical industrial complex just won't permit it."

But at a price, to our health, to the well being and financial security of American families, and to the cause of health care reform.

Or as Michael Lighty, national policy director for the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee put it:

"Hillary Clinton and President Clinton took single payer off the table much more dramatically than Baucus has, yet everyone draws the lesson that because of 1994 we can't do single-payer. They should draw a different lesson from the Clinton-era struggle. The lesson is we didn't fix the problem. We didn't offer a solution that works and so no one wanted it. That's the risk they run this time going down the road they're currently going. They won't solve the problem, it'll ruin their credibility even if it's enacted, and that's much greater risk."

 


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Thanks for this. It really sums the whole debate up nicely - it's elites and their 'expert' cadre of high paid liars vs. everyone else.

One thing about BushCo. They ran on handing the store to corporate America and that's what they did.

Democrats run on 'change' and then kowtow to their overlords in the insurance industry so we get zero change.

Did they ever think that if they actually did have a single payer option and put it through quickly, in a few years the almighty insurance companies won't have so much loose cash to throw around washington?

It's like, by doing the right thing, they will weaken their enemies, and by doing the weak and wrong thing, they will strengthen our enemies.

What is it about this they don't get?

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"They won't solve the problem, it'll ruin their credibility even if it's enacted, and that's much greater risk."

So true. I keep saying this hoping someone is paying attention, but with 15+% of our economy devoted to health care and predicted to reach 20% by 2016, we can't afford to roll over to the insurance/pharma/medical special interests on this. The cost of the current approach, aside from leaving too many uninsured, is that the cost of maintaining the industry for profit model, greatly reduces American competitiveness in the global market. You would think that the political parties, (and they are both skewed to a pro-business stance on this issue), would realize that the current track is the equivalent to 'killing the goose that laid the golden egg'.

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If 15% of the economy will be lost with the transition to single-payer healthcare, what will become of those employees whose wrok is related to private health insurance? I am completely in favor of single-payer, don't get me wrong, but it is a huge leap to eliminate all those jobs related to private healthcare and transition to Medicare. I suppose Medicare would be hiring some people, but they will not need nearly as many, nor will they need all those building or infrastructure, nor even those managers and executives. What will these people do for a living? Again, I'm not saying because those people will face hard times we can't go to single payer, I'm just asking, where will they go?

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Gregor:
They'll go to rehab, paid for by the government, to recover from profit and denial (of benefits) addiction.

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This report estimates between $480 Billion and $700 Billion savings per year by eliminating the for profit health care model. That savings will provide enough back up to fund unemployment/job training etc. for all displaced workers from the current system. Universal single payer health care will make it easier for some to start their own businesses without worrying about their own or their employees health care costs. Others will segue into different jobs, and some will retire. This is the most complex part of the equation in transitioning to a publicly funded system, but it can be done. It really must be done, if the US is to remain competitive in the world markets. It's as if we entered a race with 10 pound weights around our ankles if we can't fix the exorbitant cost of our health care system. As it stands now, about one third of that 15% of GDP is going to wasteful overhead costs. Changing the system will free up those funds for more productive revenue streams that should help grow the economy.

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That makes sense and I'm glad to know these things have been considered. Those are all reasonable probabilities. I was not opposed to single-payer, but not fully informed either. Shameful to admit that and be a regular here at TPM. oops.

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Some can go into genuine health care jobs, move labor from accounting and paper pushing into nursing, for instance. If 40M more customers will have been effectively created, that is about a 15% increase in demand for services.

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Whoa! Eds! You've got something there. We should be talking about those millions of people who would be able to seek medical services if we created a single-payer system. That's good for business! I think we could snag a lot of the rank and file Republicans with that idea! When all is said and done, there are no Republicans out there who would decline a government contract if they could get one.

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You present some polemical if interesting analyses, but where is your synthesis?

If people cannot afford desired health care in tough economic times, maybe their desires are out of line with reality. Let's be clear about "tough times":

Some people just don't earn enough to warrant luxury care. Is that tough, or tough times?

Some people who could usually pay, have a momentary cash flow problem. They can borrow prudently.

The overall economy contracts for everyone (incl. government). Should health care for all decrease along with that?

"Experts believe the health care system is full of unnecessary care and troubling variations in care, ... The public has a very different world view: People think that underservice is a bigger problem than overservice."


Maybe (likely) the truth is that neither group is correct overall.


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I agree with this eds. I think there are in fact trade offs that need to be reckoned with, particularly regarding care in the last year or so of life and with regard to unproven treatments. If people are unwilling to subordinate their desire for unlimited and unregulated health care to some sort of statistically delineated treatment protocols, then this is an area where private insurers can help fill a need , (or a perceived need), on the part of the patients.

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So you're talking about a "baseline care" scenario with optional plans for beyond that. How does that deal with "tough times"?

I think "unproven" is largely a matter of experimental low volume treatments, unless you're talking about quackery. Low volume generally means "not much impact on the large picture costs".

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Actually no. Not baseline care, but a full comprehensive program with realistic restrictions. Perhaps I should have said statistically irrelevant, as opposed to 'unproven'. For example, new, expensive drug therapies that have no evidence of statistical benefit over existing, lower priced therapies would be excluded. As to tough times, I think there can be some slack in the funding to carry us through those times. The key is always controlling costs, which the current system does not have the incentive or the bargaining power to effectively control.

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"bargaining power" is part of "promote the General Welfare" role of government as mentioned in another comment of mine in another thread.

Producer (provider)
Servicer (insurer/hmo)
Consumer (person seeking health care)
Payer (employer)

Another problem is in an articulated system competing interests can compete to allow prices to rise. Payers, Consumers and Servicers all have to gang up on Producers to keep producer costs down. Similarly Producers, Consumers, and Payers have to gang up on Servicers to keep that overhead down. Producers, Servicers and Consumers have to gang up on employers to keep payments high. And so on...

The problem is that the 4 sectors have competing interests so positive alliances are iffy or generally weak. Producers and Servicers might gang up against Consumers and Payers, thus destroying the nominally necessary 3-way alliance.

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