Did Obama run as a pragmatist?
I was having an interesting discussion in Muckraker I thought I would start here.
During the campaign, did you think Obama was an idealistic or a pragmatic candidate?
Since the innauguration, one of the most prevalent statements about the administrations decisions has been that Obama is a pragmatist. I'm fine with pragmatists -- I like pragmatism as a rule. That's why I backed Clinton in the primaries, because I thought she was the pragmatic candidate. We knew what we were getting. She lost, I know. And I supported Obama once she did. Perhaps less vehemently than many, but that's because I'm pragmatic, and to me, he wasn't.
Barack Obama's campaign, to me, was anti-pragmatic. It was as idealistic as you get, with crowds chanting "YES WE CAN!" when they talked of changing the culture and pattern of Washington, with slogans that stated, and demanded "Change We Can Believe In." And clearly, that was what the country wanted.
But now I'm wondering whether I misread the campaign, blinded by my own loyalties. So I'll throw the question out to those who backed him all along -- did he run as a pragmatist or is his recent pragmatism a necessary (if you believe so) device to survive in Washington?
During the campaign, did you think Obama was an idealistic or a pragmatic candidate?
Since the innauguration, one of the most prevalent statements about the administrations decisions has been that Obama is a pragmatist. I'm fine with pragmatists -- I like pragmatism as a rule. That's why I backed Clinton in the primaries, because I thought she was the pragmatic candidate. We knew what we were getting. She lost, I know. And I supported Obama once she did. Perhaps less vehemently than many, but that's because I'm pragmatic, and to me, he wasn't.
Barack Obama's campaign, to me, was anti-pragmatic. It was as idealistic as you get, with crowds chanting "YES WE CAN!" when they talked of changing the culture and pattern of Washington, with slogans that stated, and demanded "Change We Can Believe In." And clearly, that was what the country wanted.
But now I'm wondering whether I misread the campaign, blinded by my own loyalties. So I'll throw the question out to those who backed him all along -- did he run as a pragmatist or is his recent pragmatism a necessary (if you believe so) device to survive in Washington?
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Barack Obama's campaign was an empty marketing vehicle. It was spectacularly successful. "Pragmatist" means he will do nothing to upset the status quo or the predator class that benefits by it.
June 28, 2009 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The last presidential candidate to run as a pragmatist was Michael Dukakis ("this election is not about ideology, it's about competence").
I don't think Obama tried to deceive anyone by emphasizing the ideals and principles behind his campaign. I have no reason to doubt he believes in them, but it would be naive for Americans to view a President as an emperor who can impose his will on the nation despite opposition from Congress and a variety of self-interested groups. As various pundits have proclaimed, "campaigns are about poetry, governing is about prose". Obama is now trying to govern, and we shouldn't be surprised, therefore, that he finds himself compromising on issues important to him, so that the result will be some progress rather than none at all.
June 28, 2009 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
He ran on YES WE CAN, but he gave constant reminders that change takes time and that power does not concede easily. These are facts that we should all know so I don't get the level of impatience with Obama that I've been seeing. He may be charming and words drip like honey from his lips, but I had no expectations of overnight change, especially in DC.
Also, for most of the country, a Black man in office is change enough. Bush leaving and keeping the GOP out was also enough of a change. In my opinion, Obama will deliver. Unfortunately, however, he will never ever please the Left whose unofficial motto is "All Or Nothing", while Obama is YES WE CAN - work something out, let's talk.
June 28, 2009 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Viva - Do you think the impatience of the extreme Left with Obama works to his advantage or disadvantage?
June 28, 2009 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope the pragmatist realizes, We the people weren't looking for a draw.
June 29, 2009 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink