Why do you write?
There are a lot of people here who write quite a bit. I've been reading the Cafe since its inception, and am always astounded by the talents and passion that so many here exhibit.
But there's a questions I've wanted to ask for a long time. Why do you write? I admit I used to write to impress girls, and then women. I guess I still do. When I was a reporter, and later an editor, I wrote to impress my audience, or to have people think I was, if not cool, then sort of smart. And if neither of them, then maybe funny? It may come back to trying to impress girls after all. :)
So all that said, what brings you here every day, spending the time to make an argument or a point to strangers? I know there's nothing easy about it -- the blank page haunts us all. But I'm asking, and I really would like to know why do you write?
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Compensation. Imitation.
May 8, 2009 5:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
eds- you getting paid? who by - the Real Money lobby? and Imitation? Who you imitating? I've never seen your style before...
Inquiring minds want to know!
;0)
May 8, 2009 6:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
If only!
Psychological compensation... when I was younger I was tongue-tied (speaking and writing). Some years ago I set out to overcome those handicaps. No matter how much I write it's never enough. :-)
Imitation... as in "monkey see monkey wanna do", a desire to participate but not just be a parrot.
Also on the compensation theme, I realized I had been complacent and ill-informed, voting out of superficial habits.
May 8, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like you're talking about me there eds...
hahah.
May 8, 2009 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll take that as friendly flattery, that I managed to speak my personal experience in at least a hint of a universal way which touched you too!
I also write to get challenged on my understanding of the facts and sentiments of politics, to improve my integration of evidence and theory so as to buttress or correct my vague judgments about "important stuff in the larger world". Putting the subjective into words helps frame it. Seeing how the frames play out helps test and improve...
It's not quite kindergarten but there is a "sandbox" aspect to it.
May 8, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. I strangely also enjoy to have some of my naive notions destroyed. Learning and growing is painful but enjoyable too...
May 8, 2009 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not like that at all (at least here). I try to recognize my naivete before the fact and then couch my thinking with a bit of feed-forward.
May 8, 2009 11:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I used to write for money. Still one of the best feelings in the world. After a decade hiatus, I got paid for writing last year -- $165 for a piece on people who take a lot of cruises. But it was edited to hell and they haven't called me again, so writing for money may not really be in my future.
May 8, 2009 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because screaming at the TV gets old...
May 8, 2009 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
It makes a big difference if there is someone else in the room with you!
May 8, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
true.
May 8, 2009 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I write because it's fun. But maybe that's not a serious enough answer. I write first and foremost for myself: for the discipline of it, and for the opportunity it gives me to test the logic and defensibility of my ideas. I also write because I enjoy the competition: the evoking of a response-- any kind of response--from strangers who may or may not be kindred spirits. And that's about it.
May 8, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I thought about this awhile ago, I realized that from 6 years of age to 53, I wrote every single day.
Most of the writing was business letters, briefs, memos, affidavits, ....
Then, it stopped. For five years. Nothing written down. Oh I would start something. I have eight or nine notebooks I have been afraid to review filled with thoughts or book reviews...
I would agree with Amike, I guess.
But this web, combined with cable, provides so much information, misinformation, argument...
Writing here helps me sort things out. I spend much more time reading and commenting than my posts.
But as far as posting, it is a rush to get feedback from people who know something about the subject and also know how to read and write. I love feedback. Good post. We should all take the time to think of this question.
May 8, 2009 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do we talk? I started writing here and at another blog initially to discuss ideas with like-minded people (not too much alike) and debate with those who disagreed. I also saw it as an opportunity to improve my writing, which I think it has. But mostly it was for the challenge of argument.
It's been said that writing helps you discover what you think, and that's absolutely true for me. Of course, that's true of reading too. And if you like reading, how can you not like writing? I have scrapped many a comment, not feeling I had honed my thinking on the matter.
It is an ego boost (though I don't believe egotistical) to see something you created "published," even in a small way, for people to see. Years ago I googled something and a post or comment of mine came up. It feels good just to share thoughts and ideas in whatever form with others. I've felt that way about photographs before and had a couple of things in small school papers. But it didn't matter that only a few people would see them; just that someone would.
PS I would have saved some of that stuff if I thought it had even a chance of impressing women. Damn.
May 8, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you impress chickens
=D
May 8, 2009 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you are a fine chick. I don’t like to crow, but…
Wait a minute, I’m a monkey! Right now, I’m working with my cousins on some good stuff.
May 8, 2009 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? Kewl project. I thought you was a monkey.
=D
May 8, 2009 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find I can't get to the comments at my recent post, or I'd answer you there.
May 8, 2009 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I nearly had to stand on my head trying to rec'd that blog. And I'd comment if I were able. But I think might take a cartwheel!
May 8, 2009 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some monkeys give monkeys a bad name. What a chimp.
May 8, 2009 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose I write to communicate - with others, of course, but more often than not with myself. Never knowing where the words will lead me, always surprised by where I land. The release it gives me is simultaneously soothing and frustrating; a balm to my soul and a thorn in my side. Yet, when it feels completely finished ... when I have poured myself onto the page and the color has changed, I know I'm through. For that moment in time I am sated.
Knowing my words are read, receiving thoughts that were created by them, is a fascinating experience. Amazing, thrilling, exciting and humbling. The funny thing is that I feel exactly the same way if the only eyes that string the letters into words are my own.
Well done, Matt. Very good to see you.
May 8, 2009 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Writing is a relatively new thing for me. I suppose my interest in it relates back to my long love affair with reading. Having wandered through libraries most of my life, some potent tomes and even sentences have stirred me to emotional and intellectual heights and depths. I remember a particular sentence I read from a 1995 New Yorker article. "She was, however, a cynosure in a influential demi-monde." This impressed me for the vocabulary alone. Besides that, there is a sort of deliciousness in the words, that leads one to savor them alone, in the context of the sentence, and its' structure as one would an epicurean masterpiece, rolling the syllables around your brain the way you might a fine wine across your palate. It would be enough, and quite pleasant, to think that someone, somewhere in this world might reflect back sometime in the future and remember a well crafted sentence of mine and be inspired thereby to write one of their own.
Other than that, there are the girls to be sure, and one thing I've learned in my half century+ of life is that chicks dig big... vocabularies.
May 8, 2009 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Spur of the Moment Answer
I love words
The way they wrap around ideas tight
Or jump the page into the cosmic thread
Or order lunch or mourn the dead
Or break my heart, or blow my mind
I never thought I’d write a line
But words lay down an inner tune
That even God cannot subsume
May 8, 2009 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Strato, that's terrific!
I've written nearly all of my life, some of the time for actual pay, but I had a real dry spell for over 10 years. Not that I didn't write--I always write--but that I didn't care if it ever saw the light of day. Then I discovered blogging (this is my third) and found my voice again.
I love writing. I especially love re-writing. I love moving words around, adding things, taking away, until it's just about what I had in mind when I started. Sometimes I start without knowing where I'm going. There is something truly delicious and exciting about that, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. It doesn't matter--I love the process enough never to begrudge the time I've spent exploring.
I would be lying if I said I didn't care if anyone read it. Of course I care. Recognition is the lifeblood of every writer. It's what keep us going and what makes us want to be better.
May 8, 2009 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Ramona. Oh yes, it matters very much. Thank you. I love the editing part as well. This poem literally jumped. And agreed… that isn’t usually the case.
For me, I think it may have something to do with how questions are framed in the Original Posts. I like responding to the writer in comments if I can guess right or figure out their questions or point of view.
This blog is so direct and Thanks Much! to msa3.
What is new to me is blogging. I sure haven’t mastered the interactive aspect of it. But I’m working on it. I’m not usually quick enough for the minds around the Café, but I luvs the interlocutors that write here. I used to only write back to dead poets.
I read a post first and all the comments and sometimes just recommend if I feel my comment hits the dirt. And sometimes I’m empty. I quit writing for 13 years after I discovered Deconstruction - (played guitar instead…until now).
I have gotten long-winded for a minimalist so I’m going out to eat. But I’ll be back.
May 8, 2009 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh, you sound like some really great editors I've known.
They want to help others recognize and maximize their voices.
:)
May 8, 2009 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Bwak, Yes the freedom of our political writing!
I do read many, many, many voices here that I appreciate so much.
And you say the funniest things I've ever seen :~)
Not to minimalize your compliment at all. ^..^
May 9, 2009 1:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love your poem too. It amazed me that you could just come up with something that good so quickly!
May 8, 2009 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
TheraP, Thank you. I think its the magic of words. Sometimes they come quickly and other times, you know...the muse works here...I can't explain it.
I am amazed by your on-fire blogs and how quickly you can create them. And the subjects you write about are not easy in any way. It's the deep content for sure but it is also your approach to the world that give's others strength and comfort.
People around this place just get inspired.
May 9, 2009 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I write because I feel we have a political system that is totally disconnected from the American public and a press that is not doing its job most of the time. I started ranting before the Iraq War when it became clear that the best information I was getting was from people in Europe. I thought, what kind of free country is this when the neither the government, the opposition (my) party or the free press is telling the truth?
May 8, 2009 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where were you when we were talking about words the other day?
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/tom_wright/2009/05/i-text-therefore-im.php
May 8, 2009 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apples and oranges, Tom. By the way, very nice blog that I'm sorry I missed while current.
May 8, 2009 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apples and oranges are pretty close friends.
I write to connect with others.
May 8, 2009 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
And thanks, too.
May 8, 2009 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed they are. Very close.
And you do. Very well.
May 8, 2009 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet we all have multiple reasons. I write because it's fun. It makes me feel that I'm making some kind of difference. As bluebell says above it makes me empowered that we don't just have the spoonfeeding government and corporate media in play. I'm growing to like the people who I now am commenting, arguing, sharing with.
I write because I don't see one answer ever (just look at my answer above!), and enjoy spending time with people who also see gray.
May 8, 2009 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
My current reasons for writing are very much like bluebell's. I felt pulled along by events, starting about the time before we went into Iraq. And continuing on. I've always loved the act of writing, but never really wrote with as much enjoyment before the web. Maybe the immediacy of being able to connect, the fact that writing is really our only connection between each other. And the sense that my voice, however singular, is a way to stand up against the tyranny we've experienced. So it's a protest as much as anything. Often, I don't want to write at all. Or I just want to go away and fuhgedaboudit. But something impels me to write. Demands it. I usually try to write only at that inner bidding. And I often am not quite sure what's going to come until it's out there on paper. Unlike Ramona, I don't love the editing. I do it. But it's not a joy. Some blogs are pure fun. But even the fun ones, I think, are part of a larger message. I find, that over time, there's a theme emerging in what I've written. I wish I knew why I wrote. But I feel I'm part of something larger than myself. Something that reaches out beyond our country, in an effort to see how our problems affect others and how our solutions must take into account everyone. Not just us. But everyone. We can't make laws for the world of course. But we can make laws "in view" of the world. So I'm writing for something like that.
May 8, 2009 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
msa, great question.
I think that writing is the most proper form of thinking. So reason 1: to see what I think.
I like to know whether or not I make sense. So reason 2: to get feedback.
I love positive feedback. So reason 3: to feel I'm making progress.
May 8, 2009 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
So all that said, what brings you here every day, spending the time to make an argument or a point to strangers?
1. The frequently futile desire to change people's minds.
2. A sense of obligation that I should help spread arguments I think are good ones, even among people who are already my allies on some important topic, so that those arguments will make work their way out into the broader public discourse and - conceivably at least - have some effect.
3. The need to blow off steam.
May 8, 2009 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had a dairy when I was a kid...I confided all my secrets, my hopes, dreams, sorrows. It seems like I have been writing my way through my little traumas forever. If I am angry beyond my ability to say a coherent sentence, I always know if I sit down and write it, it will come out making sense, and the process is cathartic.
I wrote a monthly newsletter for my business for nearly 20 years, and it gave me a big thrill to have people come in and tell me how much they enjoyed it. When I sold my business that was one of the things I really missed. I thought my writing days were over (except for the therapeutic value - and of course, those words are read by no one...)
I fell into TPM quite by accident, and have rediscovered the joy of writing. It is scary to put your words out there. Waiting to see if anyone gives a rip what you think. And it feels good when someone says they like what you've written.
May 8, 2009 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
My very first Blog post (not on any of the Blogs I currently write and written on Friday, April 15, 2005, 2:21 PM - the date I started writing a Blog):
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"bush, AOL and Censorship
For over 10 years I have used AOL as an ISP or as my favorite place to post messages on their boards. I remember paying a nickel per minute for access in the early days. Did I ever run up some bills back then! Sadly, today was the last day that my former screen name "m16eib" posted on AOL. Why, you ask?
Well, it all started several months ago when AOL implemented a policy of deleting messages on boards that it deemed as disruptive to the boards. AOL has changed it's policy from simply deleting offensive posts (IE: racist posts, name calling, swearing, and other "Terms Of Service" (TOS) violations) to a policy of deleting any posts it wants to.
Post an anti-bush news story - DELETED.
Post your thoughts about the GOP - DELETED.
Post anything that challenged one's mind to think - DELETED.
The new position of the AOL "Community Action Team" (CAT) is constantly being challenged by the AOL clients that are MAD AS HECK from post deletions and/or getting kicked off of AOL for expressing their opinions and trying to enjoy freedom of speech.
Today I suffered that fate for the last time.
This censorship by Corporate America against any and all views that are against them and the bush administration that supports them through billion dollar Corporate Welfare is a sad statement on American society and politics in particular. I will still keep in contact with my buddies on AOL, but I will no longer attempt to feed the AOL beast that bites my hand.
The people on all sides of the issues on AOL message boards are all aghast at the censorship that is taking place. There are moderates from the left and right that are suffering this fate. The only faction that seems to enjoy immunity from the post deletions and being kicked off of AOL are the hard right wing supporters of failed bush policies. Why is that? I wonder?
This will be a topic that I will return to occasionally, but it will not be the only topic I will post on. It is just the one that I am most pissed about right now. For the time being I will stick to less volatile issues, like politics... lol
Life sucks... Too bad it doesn't swallow!"
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From the day bush announced he wanted to invade Iraq - what I surmised to be an illegal invasion at the time - until the time I wrote that post I had been involved in a war of words with many neoconservative idiots which resulted in left leaning and anti-war voices getting silenced from the discussions, getting booted from AOL, one by one by AOL and its appointed right wing monitors.
If I were doing this for fun? I would be writing about hockey, sex or gardening... Things that I actually enjoy.
May 8, 2009 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
PS: You all would probably get a laugh about what the last thing I did there that got me booted was...
May 8, 2009 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh you can't leave us hanging like that. :)
May 8, 2009 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, Connecticutman, you know who you're dealing with here.
Tell.
May 8, 2009 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also.
May 8, 2009 11:50 PM | Reply | Permalink