"white, working class" women versus men
Does anyone have a breakdown of how white, working class men voted versus white, working class women?
At this point, everyone assumes that Obama is going to win a gigantic share of black votes in the primaries. He's been winning an ever-increasing share of black votes and this transcends across all other demographics (sex, education, income). Nobody talks about these voters not supporting Hillary in the general election. Well, people talk about it in the context of Hillary winning via superdelegate and being viewed as "stealing" the nomination from it's rightful winner, but nobody talks about Hillary having "trouble" with the black vote. It's basically assumed that the reason she isn't getting black votes is because Obama is so strong with them and not because she is particularly weak with them.
Okay, so let's look at white voters, particularly with white, working class voters. What is it, 65-35? 60-40? Depending on the state. What if we split that between male and female votes? I don't have the numbers compiled but I know she does stronger among white women than white men. Couldn't that right there be applicable to Clinton's strength among women and not Obama's weakness, per se?
Also, Clinton does particularly well among older white women. Couldn't this be even more attributed to a Clinton strength (i.e. wanting to see a woman president in their lifetime, whereas younger women might not feel the same urgency) and not an Obama weakness?
I am NOT saying that there's anything wrong with voting in this manner. What I am saying is that much has been made of Obama being black and getting so much of the black vote but much less has been made of Hillary being a woman and in the same way getting a lot of female votes. Both of those voting patterns are attributable largely to the strength of the winner in that demographic and not to a weakness of the loser in that demographic.
At this point, everyone assumes that Obama is going to win a gigantic share of black votes in the primaries. He's been winning an ever-increasing share of black votes and this transcends across all other demographics (sex, education, income). Nobody talks about these voters not supporting Hillary in the general election. Well, people talk about it in the context of Hillary winning via superdelegate and being viewed as "stealing" the nomination from it's rightful winner, but nobody talks about Hillary having "trouble" with the black vote. It's basically assumed that the reason she isn't getting black votes is because Obama is so strong with them and not because she is particularly weak with them.
Okay, so let's look at white voters, particularly with white, working class voters. What is it, 65-35? 60-40? Depending on the state. What if we split that between male and female votes? I don't have the numbers compiled but I know she does stronger among white women than white men. Couldn't that right there be applicable to Clinton's strength among women and not Obama's weakness, per se?
Also, Clinton does particularly well among older white women. Couldn't this be even more attributed to a Clinton strength (i.e. wanting to see a woman president in their lifetime, whereas younger women might not feel the same urgency) and not an Obama weakness?
I am NOT saying that there's anything wrong with voting in this manner. What I am saying is that much has been made of Obama being black and getting so much of the black vote but much less has been made of Hillary being a woman and in the same way getting a lot of female votes. Both of those voting patterns are attributable largely to the strength of the winner in that demographic and not to a weakness of the loser in that demographic.




