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		    <title>mjclare Commented on Federal Records: Christie Spent Big On Government-Funded Business Trips by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
			<published>2009-10-14T18:04:05Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>well... one reason for not reporting it could be that joint  tax returns have to be signed by the spouse too.  Could he be that this was an 'unknown unknown' to Mr Christi's long suffering wife?  If so, why?</p>]]>
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on Right Wingers Pitch Fits Over Nobel Peace Prize by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
			<published>2009-10-10T15:29:18Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This Nobel controversy can really be seen as the complete failure of the right wing press and blogosphere to make its case.  If you look back at the full spectrum of the press coverage of Mr. Obama since before he was elected you can't help but notice that his loudest critics seem to doubling down on stories that can be objectively described as being long on dogmatic conclusions and short on facts.  To someone from outside the country that is trying to make sense of the complicated and swirling political currents of our political dialog this lack of intellectual rigor demonstrated by the loudest voices from the right must be completely obvious.   In the modern world, where objective truth is only revealed by an energetic, articulate and informed debate, it does not serve the right’s cause to institutionalize the dumbing down of its argument.</p>

<p>And now… rather than attempt to absorb and learn from this latest (implied) criticism of their belief system they have chosen to gin up their propaganda machine and spin faster than ever throwing out ever more outlandish conspiracy theories.  In bygone days this approach might have worked but, in the internet age what we used to call the judgment of history has been promoted to a real time exercise.  To those that are carefully watching the ebb and flow of current events, the paucity of the right’s arguments and by extension their argument style is becoming increasingly less and less effective outside the isolated slice of the population that is currently serving as their feedback loop.  As a consequence it comes as a shock to their system when a big story like this breaches the walls around their information island and demonstrates that reasonable, articulate and thoughtful people not only disagree with their conclusions but also completely reject their arguments.  </p>

<p>The current right wing outrage is not really about President Obama; it is a panicked reaction to the scary reflection of themselves that they are seeing in their mirror.</p>

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		    <title>mjclare Commented on How They Pick Nobel Laureates by Rachel Slajda</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This Nobel controversy can really be seen as the complete failure of the right wing press and blogosphere to make its case.  If you look back at the full spectrum of the press coverage of Mr. Obama since before he was elected you can't help but notice that his loudest critics seem to doubling down on stories that can be objectively described as being long on dogmatic conclusions and short on facts.  To someone from outside the country that is trying to make sense of the complicated and swirling political currents of our political dialog this lack of intellectual rigor demonstrated by the loudest voices from the right must be completely obvious.   In the modern world where objective truth is only revealed by an energetic, articulate and informed debate, it does not serve the right’s cause to institutionalize the dumbing down of its argument.</p>

<p>And now… rather than attempt to absorb and learn from this latest (implied) criticism of their belief system they have chosen to gin up their propaganda machine and spin faster than ever throwing out ever more outlandish conspiracy theories.  In bygone days this approach might have worked but, in the internet age what we used to call the judgment of history has been promoted to a real time exercise.  To those that are carefully watching the ebb and flow of current events, the paucity of the right’s arguments and by extension their argument style is becoming increasingly less and less effective outside the isolated slice of the population that is currently serving as their feedback loop.  As a consequence it comes as a shock to their system when a big story like this breaches the walls around the information island that they have created and demonstrates that reasonable, articulate and thoughtful people not only disagree with their conclusions but also completely reject their arguments.  </p>

<p>The current right wing outrage is not really about President Obama; it is a panicked reaction to the scary reflection of themselves that they are seeing in their mirror.<br />
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on UPDATED: Obama, Kerry Put Kibosh on DeMint Trip to Honduras  by Brian Beutler</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It can be argued that it is treason... but... I say let him go.  And while he is there pull his passport so he can't re-enter the USA.  He can fight it out in the courts but by then the health care debate will be over and he would not have been here to cause trouble or vote to support cloture.  Maybe McConnell would like to go with him?</p>]]>
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on Hurt Feelings At FOX News? by Ben Frumin</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>We really should universally label Fox News for what it is... a propaganda outlet. </p>

<p>This is the definition of propaganda from Wiki: "Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist".  They further go on to say that 'Propaganda is generally an appeal to emotion, not intellect.'  Sound familiar?</p>

<p>They really should not be allowed to call their content 'news' much less put the 'fair and balanced' tag line behind it.<br />
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on MSNBC Reporter Heckled At Values Voter Summit by Rachel Slajda</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Maybe now we can get a glimmer of the true back story behind the Bush administration's policy of keeping GWB's events closed to outsiders.  Here all along, we assumed it was because they wanted to create a firewall around the prez to keep dissenting views off of his radar.  After all, if he had ever been exposed to the breadth and depth of arguments against his (Cheney’s) policies he might have had to question his own infallibility.  This would have made him much more difficult to manipulate.</p>

<p>But noooo... perhaps the simpler explanation is that the higher ups just knew their flock better.  They knew that if the outsiders got too close the players they would be revealed as idiots.  It doesn't matter if the idiots are organizers or the crowd... the results are the same... bad press and the chosen are revealed to be chumps.<br />
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I have no idea what fact pattern this lady sees that enables her to make this statement.  Maybe this is a symptom of 24/7 Fox News?</p>

<p>But... it got me thinking in terms of an analogy  between the present challenges confronting government and the times in which these bygone totalitarian regimes came to and held power.  Specifically, the bygone apologists for these tyrants would without fail claim; they "made the trains run on-time".  Perhaps she sees a truly effective government effort that makes "the trains run on time" as a precursor to an assault on our liberties? <br />
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		    <title><![CDATA[mjclare Commented on Pete Stark: I Won&apos;t Pee On Angry Constituent&apos;s Leg by Ben Frumin]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Good retort Mr Stark.  :-)</p>

<p>In case the line sounds familiar to you... I was originally used with much more dramatic effect by the traitor Captian Fletcher in the Clint Eastwood movie, The Outlaw Josey Wales.</p>]]>
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on Poll: Palin Winning The Birther Primary, Romney Way Behind by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is GREAT... Hoisted by their own petards.</p>

<p>If the 'reasonable' republicans buy into the wing nut created alternate reality that they have used to motivate their base, they alienate the swing voters that they need to win just about any election.  If they ignore the wingnutters and stick to the high ground they never make it through the nomination process.</p>

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		        <![CDATA[<p>"...So of the healthiest states, seven of them voted for Barack Obama. And of the least healthy states, seven voted for John McCain."</p>

<p>Have you ever noticed that people who make bad decisions tend to make a lot of them?</p>]]>
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	<title><![CDATA[mjclare recommended Who&apos;s He Arguing With? by Josh Marshall]]></title>
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on TPMDC Saturday Roundup by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I realize that intellectual honesty cannot displace the culture of dogma that rules a faith based organization like the Republican Party.  But, any fair reading of history would conclude that the reason that democracy is a better governing model is that it permits society to learn and react to its mistakes.  Let there be no doubt about it, the experiment in governance that was labeled by the oxymoron ‘compassionate conservatism’  was an abject and total failure on just about every level.  For evidence of this we need look no further than the three signature events that will define this generation for decades to come.  Of course,  I am referring to: 1) the only large scale attack (successful or otherwise) on the continental United States in 2 lifetimes.  2) Iraq; the 100 billion dollar war of pique that was illegally engaged and mismanaged under false pretenses.  3)  The financial meltdown that all layers of society are living and dying through as you read this.  It is undeniable that all of these things happened on the watch of the previous regime.  One can argue that this does not prove a cause and effect relationship that can be laid at the feet of the Republican governance model but a reasonable mind should at least consider the possibility.  To have the powers that be in the GOP now claim that any suggestion of blame is inspired by politics and not facts only serves to further diminish their already damaged credibility.   </p>

<p>In my mind anyway… this latest headline points out one of the fundamental problems that led the Republicans to their current situation.  They tend to treat any crisis as a public relations problem solvable by spin instead of actually solving the underlying problem.  At some point they need to come out of the river of denial and accept responsibility for their actions, change their methods and move on.</p>

<p>When you are preaching to the choir and are trying to remedy a problem with harmonics it less than helpful for you to urge them to just sing the same notes LOUDER.<br />
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		    <title>mjclare Commented on Norm Coleman: Maybe We Need A Do-Over Election by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
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This is a GREAT idea.&nbsp; It is an admission by Coleman that this election is<br />
over.&nbsp; Mr Franken should make a statement something along the<br />
lines of... "... At last Mr Coleman and I do agree on something.&nbsp;<br />
This long, drawn out election is finally over.&nbsp; And, I do look<br />
forward to running against him again.&nbsp; We do however differ on the<br />
timing of the next contest.&nbsp; If Mr Coleman wishes to call it a<br />
'do-over', that is fine with me. I however will be referring to it as<br />
my re-election campaign... IN SIX YEARS!<br /><br />
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think that a more telling question could have been phrased in terms of international law... Something along the lines of... "Mr. Obama, as President of the United States you may be called on to make decisions that could be interpreted as violating the standards set forth in international treaties and conventions.  We assume that you would only do this if faced with a impossible situation and weighed in the balance the fate of the nation.  That said, since there are no exceptions built into these treaties one could expect that there could be consequences associated with this decision that could imperil your own personal liberty.  Do you concede that there are situations where duly constituted international courts would have the jurisdiction to stand and pass judgment over the President or the ex-President of the United States?"</p>

<p>I find that the question asked on ABC made it sound like any action would have political overtones.  I think a better, more telling approach of both the questioner and the Obama administration is to assume and assert that the rule of law is the paramount concern and should inform both the legal compass guiding their future actions and should guide any investigations into any past acts.<br />
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	<title>mjclare recommended Not Training Wheels We Can Believe In by Josh Marshall</title>
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	<title>mjclare recommended Approve This Message by Josh Marshall</title>
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