Dinner with Terry McAuliffe
Last Friday, I spent some time at an informal dinner hosted by
Democratic candidate for Governor of Virginia, Terry McAuliffe. After
a few minutes of banter, the roundtable began in earnest.
T-Mac's espoused platform is jobs, jobs, and one other thing I can't quite remember right now, but it's on the tip of my tongue. Oh, yeah: more jobs. He spoke for a long time about how the Republican-led House of Delegates has stood in the way of effort after effort at making Virginia a hospitable place for new green businesses. I nearly fell out of my chair when T-Mac openly admired the steps Haley Barbour has taken in Mississippi to attract business. Haley Barbour?
That wasn't to be the first thing Terry said that left me agape...
Soon thereafter, buried within a long answer to another question, T-Mac mentioned his opposition to tax increases.
Again, I wanted to make sure I heard clearly: "You're opposed to raising taxes?"
He was.
"Have you driven around Northern Virginia? Have you seen all these 8,000 sq. ft. estates? These mansions? All these new houses built for lobbyists, war profiteers and others that have grown fat in the last eight years? You're opposed to raising their taxes at the same time the state shutters children's hospitals?"
Mac said he'd get back to me on that. About 20 minutes later, I brought it up again.
His response was that he simply couldn't run on a campaign platform that included tax increases. I noted the subtlety. I can't tell, so I'll leave it up to the reader to decide whether he was placating a critic (me), or speaking in a form of political shorthand that was meant to leave the impression that he would be open to some sorts of tax increases.
McAuliffe also spoke a lot about the African-American outreach he has been doing. HE won plaudits from some of the other bloggers in the room, but I've been around politics long enough to know that outreach is only as good as the policy changes that result from the dialogue. With that in mind, I asked, "With regard to African-Americans and the state budget... Have you looked at what the elimination of parole has done to Virginia state prison populations? There was recently an article in the press about some states looking to rescind the death penalty as a cost-saving measure? Have you considered anything like that?"
T-Mac's response was pretty disappointing. He spoke about the need for better schools and his plan to streamline the felon re-enfranchisement process. I didn't hear him say anything at all about criminal justice reform.
In the end, I got the impression that McAuliffe has a lot of work to do if he is to win over progressives. For many of us, it is easy to believe that establishment Democrats from the nineties - and who personifies the ideal better than Terry McAuliffe? - have much more in common with their Republican colleagues than they do with those of us striving every day to get by. It's these folks that grew chummy with the lobbyists, the corporate chiefs and the beltway pundits that ride the cocktail circuit. T-Mac in particular has got a long history of making things work out pretty well for himself after decimating the organizations he led. I'll have more on that in the weeks and months ahead.
For now, though, maybe it is sufficient to note that one of those 8,000 square foot mansions I referenced in my first question is owned by T-Mac.
T-Mac's espoused platform is jobs, jobs, and one other thing I can't quite remember right now, but it's on the tip of my tongue. Oh, yeah: more jobs. He spoke for a long time about how the Republican-led House of Delegates has stood in the way of effort after effort at making Virginia a hospitable place for new green businesses. I nearly fell out of my chair when T-Mac openly admired the steps Haley Barbour has taken in Mississippi to attract business. Haley Barbour?
That wasn't to be the first thing Terry said that left me agape...
Soon thereafter, buried within a long answer to another question, T-Mac mentioned his opposition to tax increases.
Again, I wanted to make sure I heard clearly: "You're opposed to raising taxes?"
He was.
"Have you driven around Northern Virginia? Have you seen all these 8,000 sq. ft. estates? These mansions? All these new houses built for lobbyists, war profiteers and others that have grown fat in the last eight years? You're opposed to raising their taxes at the same time the state shutters children's hospitals?"
Mac said he'd get back to me on that. About 20 minutes later, I brought it up again.
His response was that he simply couldn't run on a campaign platform that included tax increases. I noted the subtlety. I can't tell, so I'll leave it up to the reader to decide whether he was placating a critic (me), or speaking in a form of political shorthand that was meant to leave the impression that he would be open to some sorts of tax increases.
McAuliffe also spoke a lot about the African-American outreach he has been doing. HE won plaudits from some of the other bloggers in the room, but I've been around politics long enough to know that outreach is only as good as the policy changes that result from the dialogue. With that in mind, I asked, "With regard to African-Americans and the state budget... Have you looked at what the elimination of parole has done to Virginia state prison populations? There was recently an article in the press about some states looking to rescind the death penalty as a cost-saving measure? Have you considered anything like that?"
T-Mac's response was pretty disappointing. He spoke about the need for better schools and his plan to streamline the felon re-enfranchisement process. I didn't hear him say anything at all about criminal justice reform.
In the end, I got the impression that McAuliffe has a lot of work to do if he is to win over progressives. For many of us, it is easy to believe that establishment Democrats from the nineties - and who personifies the ideal better than Terry McAuliffe? - have much more in common with their Republican colleagues than they do with those of us striving every day to get by. It's these folks that grew chummy with the lobbyists, the corporate chiefs and the beltway pundits that ride the cocktail circuit. T-Mac in particular has got a long history of making things work out pretty well for himself after decimating the organizations he led. I'll have more on that in the weeks and months ahead.
For now, though, maybe it is sufficient to note that one of those 8,000 square foot mansions I referenced in my first question is owned by T-Mac.
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I've done a fairly superficial look into McAuliffe's greatest hits and it seems like there is more than enough there for Republicans to bury him several times over in a general election? Just a simple Google searche brings up more skeletons than anyone I've ever heard of with sources from NY Times, Alternet, CounterPunch etc. Not FOX, Drudge or NRO. How is it that we are treating him like a viable candidate? I really don't get it?
March 3, 2009 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mike, I have been a fan of yours for a while. I like how you think on your feet and hold our leaders (and would-be leaders) to account.
Anyway, I think it's unfortunate that Terry McAuliffe is in the game. He's not really my kind of democrat.
March 4, 2009 2:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is interesting, thanks for posting Mike. Reading your post my first thought was 'old school'. Has the election of Obama now become a marker between old school and new school. And I consider Clinton and group old school now. We'll see how Obama does with his making government work for the people. If he suceeds (as I pray he does) it will be all over for 'old school'. Of course my opinion of Tmac is influenced by his recent association and actions with H. Clinton and her campaign.
March 4, 2009 5:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just a quick thought on all these 'old school' Clinton people:
Clinton had 1993-2000. He took a run-down automobile, souped it up, and handed it off to GWB purring like a kitten. Whence it lost tires, brakes, transmission, eventually the engine. End of story.
He's no more 'responsible' for what happened in the Bush interval than George Washington or Abe Lincoln. In point of actual fact, I agree with a speaker who recently introduced Pres. Clinton as, "Our greatest modern President...".
I sincerely hope (seriously) that Pres. Obama hands it off eight years out in HALF the shape Clinton left it in. If he does, it will be time well spent. But that's seven-plus hard years out yet, and much water to go under the bridge. Be careful about counting chickens before they hatch.
March 4, 2009 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Terry McAuliffe's is one of the best Democratic examplars of the worst of today's politics--the substance-less gladhanding, the addiction to big money, all of it. It's depressing to think that Virginia Democrats might not run someone a whole lot better than him.
March 4, 2009 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Mike,
Josh C here, it was good seeing you at the dinner.
As a non-ideological progressive, I see a lot of value in Terry's candidacy. Terry has put together a hell of a campaign, and he's the only candidate who has clearly delineated why he wants the job, what he would do with it, and how he'll get it done.
When you consider that the other two candidates have been effectively running non-stop since 2005, that says a lot. I know both of the other candidates, and either of them would make a great governor, but you've got to win to make change.
Terry, seems to me the only candidate who will be able to nationalize interest in this election, while simultaneously bringing the fight to the all-important House of Delegates level.
Again, there are progressive issues that we need to promote, but in many ways that takes into consideration the predisposition of voters. Look, we've had a HUGE run of success in Virginia since Mark Warner started the Democratic resurgence. If we start out taking positions that alienate the moderate Virginia electorate, they just don't hear us.
Jim Webb was able to talk about "Economic Fairness", without talking about tax hikes. Mark Warner was able to win a massive tax reform package even after making a no new taxes pledge. The landscape in Virginia is changing along with the national political landscape, but Terry's right on this point. Putting out a message about raising taxes is honestly a non-starter. Even Obama talked about cutting taxes for 95% of Americans.
March 5, 2009 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't think Mike's concern was about campaign strategy but about McAuliffe's core convictions and worldview. Not about what he'd say in the campaign but how he'd actually govern. If I thought McAuliffe would govern like Mark Warner I'd be thrilled.
But he comes off to me as just another empty suit. And the addiction to big money really bothers me. I don't have any sense whatsoever that he has a clue what life is like for ordinary people these days. Warner and Webb consistently manage to convey the impression that they do, and often act as if they do. It certainly appears that the folks McAuliffe hobknobs around with are very wealthy like him.
What do you think Terry McAuliffe's vision (or even just priorities) for Virginia really is? How do you see him governing if elected?
What makes you think he alone among the Dems would "bring the fight to the all-important House of Delegates level"? Has he said or done anything that leaves you believing that? And what would that mean in practice anyway? That he'd try to do the statewide equivalent of "nationalize" the election, by trying to make it a statewide referendum on the Democratic vs. Republican parties? That he'd provide real support for Democratic candidates for the House of Delegates? Of what sort?
March 9, 2009 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink