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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on The Latest Excuse for Torture by Greg Mitchell</title>
		        
			<published>2009-05-18T07:54:29Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is a sad, sad thread.  This mother's anguish is evident.  It is despicable to suggest it is not a genuine letter absent any evidence.  She has every right ot make her son's story public in an effort to make sure policy changes and stays changed.</p>

<p>Moreover, there is a bombshell accusation in her letter, though until there is evidence it will remain just an accusation.  Namely, this veteran and other of a currently serving marine seems to have reason to believe that the contractors who corrupted our country's honor by introducing torture into interrogations may have actually influenced the SERE schools to be more harsh than perhaps necessary, <i>in order to advance the use of such practices there as an excuse for the use of actual torture in the field</i>.</p>

<p>This would be a bombshell development if it were true.  It should be paid attention to if only to confirm that she is mistaken.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Did Harman Break The Law? by Zachary Roth</title>
		        
			<published>2009-04-24T03:58:27Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>There's nothing to your post.  Both of your experts affirm that the DOJ staff was reasonable in investigating which is as far as it went.  If anything, the more you pursue this, the more it gets Gonzo off the hook for dropping it.  You're stuck between a rock (Harman looks bad, may have broken the law) and a hard place (Gonzo might have been justified in dropping it).  The further you go from the one the closer you get to the other.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Can we get super real about this Freeman thing for a sec? by Mike Drew</title>
		        
			<published>2009-03-12T05:38:31Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Well, you're wrong about that.  This tells me that Obama will cave to Israeli interests more easily than I thought, and we know that Israel wanted to bomb Iran last year -- <i>before</i> Bibi was elected.</p>

<p>50% more likely was too high, though, no doubt.  I would say it rose in my mind from a likelihood of 10% to, say, 35%.  Still more unlikely than likely.  But it definitely jumped.  A good part of the jump, maybe two thirds, probably relates to what I thought about Obama before, and what this tells me (willingness to confront pressure, stick by his people/decisions, etc.)  But some part of it relates to the reality of what this demonstration of power means for how future NIEs will be spun in the media, how emboldened American Israel hardliners will be because of it,  and also simply what the NIEs will say.  (That will depend partly on who replaces Freeman, but I don't imagine it will be more of a realist or questioner of U.S. support for what the Israel government wants than Chas Freeman would have been.)</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Can we get super real about this Freeman thing for a sec? by Mike Drew</title>
		        
			<published>2009-03-12T05:24:43Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>That's exactly how I feel.  But one thing that we're giving up with this is a realist viewpoint in that office [from which will flow the raw assessments that will be the starting point for debates about how to deal with Iran -- how far along they are or are expected to be on the bomb at any given point in time] because one of the lead  Freeman critics (Jonathan Chait) used as his fig leaf the assertion that Freeman's realism makes him a radical ideologue.  Freeman's views are mainstream within realism, which itself was the default way of looking at the world in government as recently as 1993 (at the earliest!).  I wouldn't think the likelihood that the next NIC nominee will be a realist is very great now.  So there has been considerable collateral damage to the quality of U.S. governance in the foreign/intelligence are over this, the stigmatization of realism being just one component of that.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Secret Coleman-Lawyer E-Mails Reveal Intentional Hiding Of Witness -- Franken Camp Wants Double-Count Claim Thrown Out Completely by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>In all seriousness, when and how is this going to end?  Who is going to tell him it's over that he will accept it from?  Traditionally, that would be senior members' of his own party's responsibility, but somehow I don't anticipate that happening.  </p>

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		    <title><![CDATA[Mike Drew Commented on <![CDATA[Caroline Is <s>Out</s> <s>In</s> <s>Out</s> In?]]&gt; by Eric Kleefeld]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Paterson is a schmuck.  New York is now officially at 50% strength in the Senate.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on How Exactly Do We Know That Blago Is Corrupt? by Candide</title>
		        
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Open Letter to President-Elect Obama by John Dean</title>
		        
			<published>2008-12-13T08:11:52Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>"The only real defense Obama has is to proceed to make this country what it used to be."</p>

<p>Is that the promise he campaigned on?  I must have been listening to someone else.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Open Letter to President-Elect Obama by John Dean</title>
		        
			<published>2008-12-13T08:10:01Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>That's right.  It's quite an error for someone so well-versed in such situations to make.  Nevertheless, I think Mr. Dean's advice for the President-Elect is on the whole very wise.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Mike Drew Commented on Blitzer: Fitz Doesn&apos;t Have Jackson On Tape by Zachary Roth]]></title>
		        
			<published>2008-12-11T10:31:22Z</published>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This is the second separate TPM post where I've seen you summarily executing Jesse Jackson Jr.  I don't think anyone is arguing this is good for him.  And time will tell.  So what's up with your major JJJ-specific hang-up, dude?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Blago: Senate Candidate 5 Wanted To Trade Campaign Cash For Seat by Zachary Roth</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>So, now we know it is Jackson.  But I don't think it is nearly as bad as it is being made out to be.  Jackson is obviously a dumb-ass for being willing to get this close to a guy under federal investigation.  But even if this 'emissary' is legit, which has to be proven, what is so shocking about an offer to raise money?  It's not "I will pay you 500K now."  It's "I will raise money for you, and I believe I could raise $500,000."  Then it's Blago alone saying to his people, "That's not good enough, I need some up front."  I see  very important difference in the pay/raise distinction, but perhaps the law does not.  On the other hand, JJJ doomsayers here have conceded that he is likely not in legal jeopardy, so differences in perception are critical.  A promise to later raise money out of gratitude is pretty close to standard politics if you ask me.  Not that I would want to owe my political life to Rod Blagojevic.  But again, I'm not defending him from the idiocy charge.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on GOP Ties Obama To Blagojevich Arrest by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it does.  This will be the basis of constant under-the-breath muttering from Republicans for the next eight years.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Chambliss Wins Georgia Senate Runoff For The Republicans by Eric Kleefeld</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I really don't think that is what Eric was saying.  Nate Silver points out the apparent margin goes to justify Obama's steering clear.  I'm guessing Eric agrees.</p>

<p>The Dems do need seriously to assess this if the final margin is the 18 points at which it now stands.  What they will find is that this is Obama's party in a big, big way.</p>

<p>For the record: even if it were winnable, the last thing Obama needed with a task on his hands like directing a presidential transition in the midst of the serious problems the country faces right now was to be ensconced in an at-best-uphill political battle in unfriendly territory that would have taken a good bit of the post-election bipartisan gloss off of his unity transition strategy.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Senate Staffers Begin Mulling Health Care Reform As Part Of Stimulus Package [UPDATED WITH CORRECTION] by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Whoa, the switcheroo!</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Senate Staffers Begin Mulling Health Care Reform As Part Of Stimulus Package [UPDATED WITH CORRECTION] by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>One way to look at this strategy if I am right about a hard-core Team of Rivals: Obama may see nothing but downside for the entire first term: Iraq withdrawal (framed as retreat by Repugs); Afghamistan/Pakistan bottoming out at best; possible multi-year recession/depression; have to talk to Iran at some point or look like you were bluffing; etc. etc. etc.  He may want to keep as many possible rival power centers as close to all those tough propositions as possible through the first term and surround himself with basically the entire political spectrum to insulate himself for 2012.  Then if he wins he can really put his stamp on things in term two.</p>

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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Senate Staffers Begin Mulling Health Care Reform As Part Of Stimulus Package [UPDATED WITH CORRECTION] by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>A huge question remains around the reason for this from Obama's perspective.  If this is true, I wonder if a major shock awaits us in terms of a braod-spectrum unity cabinet.  Including Hillary after already proving she was not needed as veep to win to my mind signals a radical "Team of Rivals" strategy.  If the Hillary move pans out, look for more three or more Republicans in the cabinet, and if 60 Senators is off the table, Lieberman as well.</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Senate Staffers Begin Mulling Health Care Reform As Part Of Stimulus Package [UPDATED WITH CORRECTION] by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I suppose it's possible that you have no competition.  Every business I've ever been inside of was pretty aware of its competitive environment.  But I am glad you are doing well.</p>

<p>I still wonder why you think you know enough to proclaim what this guy should be thinking about in his business.</p>]]>
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		        <![CDATA[<p>It's bizarre.  I think it's misdirection or a trial balloon at best.  Did he have greater policy disputes with her in the primary than on foreign policy?</p>

<p>I guess it must be all that Kearns-Goodwin they've been reading.  But doesn't the subordination problem come up just as much with State as it would have with VP?</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Senate Staffers Begin Mulling Health Care Reform As Part Of Stimulus Package [UPDATED WITH CORRECTION] by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>How is it you think you know anything about this guy's business (a.) and (b.) how is it you think you know anything about business period if you think "'successful businesses waste zero time actually worrying about "competitors,' as these exist mostly in the mind."?<br />
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		    <title><![CDATA[Mike Drew Commented on Obama Spokesperson: He Doesn&apos;t &quot;Hold Any Grudges&quot; Against Lieberman, Won&apos;t Take Position On Whether To Oust Him From Committee  by Greg Sargent]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>What "move"?  This item references an email to Greg in which Cutter says they hold no grudges, will take no position on the chairmanship question, and would be happy for Lieberman to caucus with the Dems.  There is nothing here that even remotely limits the Dem caucus' options when it comes to Lieberman.  They can do what they want.  There is no reason that Senate Dems need Obama to sully his early days with vindictive statements against Lieberman to give them cover to do what is their prerogative alone.  Obama is trying to usher in a new era of bipartisan cooperation.  Let the Senate clean up their own messes and stop trying to drag the president elect in using statements that are intended to be as innocuous as possible.</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Mike Drew Commented on Poll: Obama&apos;s Election Improves African-Americans&apos; Views Of America by Eric Kleefeld]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Just on the original post: That shit is INSANE!  Numbers like that represent the potential of a revolution in the the way society works.  That's if they hold up, which of course they're not likely to.  But if they did...wow.  That's brand new world shit -- not messin' 'round!</p>]]>
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		    <title><![CDATA[Mike Drew Commented on My Kid&apos;s First Presidential Election by Greg Sargent]]></title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>This truly is a great post.  The question of whether we could say this: </p>

<p>[Our children] "could actually grow up perceiving our political system, and our leaders, as functional, effective, even sane."</p>

<p>...had John McCain been elected borders on the absurd.</p>

<p>The more interesting question is whether we could have said it had Hillary Clinton been elected.<br />
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Tell Us Your Election Night Experiences... by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post -- the "Unprecedented Traffic" message made me think I needed to resubmit.  Happy reading and reflecting, everyone!</p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Tell Us Your Election Night Experiences... by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I watched the returns at a bar in Chicago with fairly apolitical friends, and then headed down to Grant Park for the speech, and walked up and down Michigan afterward with the people.  Then I came back to my friend's apartment and re-experienced it all again as I would have had I stayed home through the magic of the internets.  I love reading live-blogging after the fact.  It's such a beautifully direct and real first draft of history, complete with all the uncertainty of lived experience.  Also, David Kurtz was magisterial from Ground Zero.  He expressed my exact, though unarticulated, reaction to the speech, noting the sobriety.  He seemed quite moved, and with good reason.  Josh and the entire team should be really hugely proud of what they accomplished last night and through the whole cycle.  They have nearly achieved an almost unthinkable feat: a truly comprehensive independent alternative way for citizens to engage their democracy in order to alleviate total reliance on corporate owned media.  Even though everyone will continue to consume network news and analysis, the presence of this alternative option radically transforms the information landscape that citizens face.  And it has been done largely in the span of four years (think of where this site was in 2004...) and continues to expand its capabilities and offerings.  TPM's performance is one of the (many, many) important developments to emerge from this campaign (see Nagourney's essential piece in Monday's Times for a wide-angle look).  It will influence the contours American political communication for cycles to come.   The people behind TPM (all of them!) deserve a pat on the back, and a REST!</p>

<p>***</p>

<p>On a lighter note: everyone do yourself a favor and pull up the video of Condoleeza Rice’s statement at the State Dept. briefing this morning.  Just sit back and get a load of it. She’s absolutely beaming, almost despite herself.  I don’t want to say she shouldn’t be proud at this moment regardless of party, but it makes you really wonder who she voted for.  It’s something to behold. </p>]]>
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		    <title>Mike Drew Commented on Tell Us Your Election Night Experiences... by Greg Sargent</title>
		        
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		        <![CDATA[<p>I watched the returns at a bar in Chicago with fairly apolitical friends, and then headed down to Grant Park for the speech, and walked up and down Michigan afterward with the people.  Then I came back to my friend's apartment and re-experienced it all again as I would have had I stayed home through the magic of the internets.  I love reading live-blogging after the fact.  It's such a beautifully direct and real first draft of history, complete with all the uncertainty of lived experience.  Also, David Kurtz was magisterial from Ground Zero.  He expressed my exact, though unarticulated, reaction to the speech, noting the sobriety.  He seemed quite moved, and with good reason.  Josh and the entire team should be really hugely proud of what they accomplished last night and through the whole cycle.  They have nearly achieved an almost unthinkable feat: a truly comprehensive independent alternative way for citizens to engage their democracy in order to alleviate total reliance on corporate owned media.  Even though everyone will continue to consume network news and analysis, the presence of this alternative option radically transforms the information landscape that citizens face.  And it has been done largely in the span of four years (think of where this site was in 2004...) and continues to expand its capabilities and offerings.  TPM's performance is one of the (many, many) important developments to emerge from this campaign (see Nagourney's essential piece in Monday's Times for a wide-angle look).  It will influence the contours American political communication for cycles to come.   The people behind TPM (all of them!) deserve a pat on the back, and a REST!</p>

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<p>On a lighter note: everyone do yourself a favor and pull up the video of Condoleeza Rice’s statement at the State Dept. briefing this morning.  Just sit back and get a load of it. She’s absolutely beaming, almost despite herself.  I don’t want to say she shouldn’t be proud at this moment regardless of party, but it makes you really wonder who she voted for.  It’s something to behold. </p>]]>
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