All kidding aside we need to use every tool at our disposal to put pressure on them. We can strategize until we are blue in the face but the only thing that will work is the application of blunt force. Where through direct contact, by forming PAC's, whatever...

The time is at hand...Franken getting seated changes the whole dynamic. The Democrats can do it on their own now and it is up to us on the left to take the lead...

Could it be so easy?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2077352_create-political-action-committee.html

It looks to me like the peasants are revolting.

GOOD FOR THE PEASANTS. HAHAHAH!!!!

A public option that isn't cut off at the knees before it gets out of committee. One that will be able to negotiate the lowest costs for medical goods and services, and is not designed to just replicate the same role as the private insurers, only in the public's name.

You'd think it would be "not rolling a john", but whatever.

How about:

"A public option that would be revenue-neutral, and have as its mission the provision of honest, simple, and easy to understand coverage to its customers, at cost, and at the lowest cost it can obtain from vendors."

I actually wouldn't object to that, as long as the "revenue neutral" part of the legislation was categorical and robust. A public option needs to take in in premiums every dollar it pays out in claims.

Miguelito, you must not get this: If the health care industry doesn't get what they want, then our illustrious senators won't get all the gazillions of dollars they have been promised!

Rolling the John, as you so disrespectfully put it, would deny the graft, bribery, theft -- okay, you pick the word -- that our senators have come to expect!

Let's just explore a scenario: The Congress passes a Single-Payer (OK, CVille Dem - get serious! )-----OK, they pass a Public Option Plan, which is similar to Medicare except that it includes the broad range of people including young and old, sick and well, and at a reasonable price.

The wonderful health industry companies are still there, offering their coverage, which is contingent upon your remaining healthy, and has always been dependent upon your being healthy in order to sign up for it in the first place.

OK, We have the Health Insurance Industry, which drops you asap when you need it, and we have the very nasty and deplorable "Public Option," which is portable and includes the mandate mentioned above.

This prostitute is going to say, "Hey! As long as you are a rich SOB without obvious scabs, I am going to make you very very happy -- so pay up!

For those who don't want to visit prostitutes, they can remain steady. For the many years they don't need medical care, they will still pay in a regular amount; once they do, they will be able to get the benefits.

That is a reasonable way to look at it unless you are among those who thing your state should pay your airfare, hotel and meals in Argentina even as the schools that you "oversee" rot from lack of maintenance and care.

Im a little miffed here Miguelito, consider this
scenario :
A man hires me to do a job and pays me in advance
but instead I take the money and go party.When he finds out he takes me to court and sues me. The week before the trial I take the Judge pizza for lunch every day and hand him an envelope with cash and say "hey judge heres a little donation to your wardrobe fund" Do you think I would be able to lobby the Judge in this way or would I find myself singing the Folsom Prison Blues? So how did it get so screwed up and legal for anybody with some cash to lobby our Reps and Senators to see things their way in spite of what the people say? Are they so bold now that they will ignore the 70% of us that say get us some public insurance, and 45% that say get us single payer? Are they going to offer us some artifical plastic fruit and say, "be happy, its pretty, it looks like the real thing and it will last for a mighty long time?" This lobbying has got to go and our hired hands in Congress better remember who they work for pronto!