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How George W. Bush Lost the War On Terror


I was inspired to write this by another blog posted recently, in which the author asserted his acceptance, even embrace of torture and the suspension of habeas corpus in the prosecution of the "war on terror", (WOT).  In a reply to one of his comments, I stated that in my opinion the terrorists had all ready won the war with regard to his endorsement of torture.  As I was about to leave on a long day of travel I had no time to elaborate.  My argument is based on the degree of commitment to the underlying ideology of the combatants in this war and its' effect on our moral and actual position in waging that war.  In the case of the terrorists, their beliefs are so strong they will forfeit their lives to their cause.  Regardless of whether that strength of belief is bolstered by the hoi polloi of being rewarded with 77 virgins, (or perhaps 77 raisins), in paradise, being willing to give their lives for their cause is a fierce and powerful commitment.  

I take for granted that all of us are opposed to terrorism, and as such we must ask ourselves on what core beliefs our participation in the WOT is founded.  Much has been made of freedom and democracy, in addition to freedom from terror, in the forming the rationale for waging war on terror.  Bush cited bringing democracy to the Middle East regarding our decision to wage war in Iraq.  The neoconservative treatise has been integrally linked to founding and supporting a fledgling democracy in the Middle East so Bush's position should not have come as a surprise.  

Democracy.  The democratic principle was first instituted in the West, beginning with the Greek and Roman senates.  The early renaissance era gave us the writ of habeas corpus and the rule of law that effectively blocks would be despots from imposing their own personal agendas over the will of the people.  Our own fledgling democracy here in the US, was founded on the principle of one man/one vote, but other basic rights were certified as well, including freedom of speech, religion, and perhaps most remarkably the right to life, liberty, and, the pursuit of happiness.  All of these rights are worth protecting, and the war on terror declared by George W. Bush following 9-11 was promoted as being fought in part to preserve those rights.  Which brings me back to the strength of our commitment to the core principles of democracy and the rule of law.  Our commitment is called into question by those of us who would abandon the underlying foundations of law in the prosecution of the WOT.  


In the weeks following 9-11-2001, a friend of mine asserted that we should open our borders rather than shutting them down, in order to show our national commitment to freedom and our democratic beliefs.  I didn't quite follow him when he said this, but today, having seen the impact on our constitution, as well as the human, material, and financial devastation wrought by Bush's pursuit of the WOT, I have to ask myself if he didn't make a valid point.  If we as a nation are ready to abandon our core beliefs so readily to protect ourselves, either we profoundly misunderstood those beliefs or they weren't worth fighting for in the first place.  

Those ideals are worth fighting for, however those who are willing to abandon the rule of law in pursuing the WOT, like the author of the blog I cited, do not understand the implications of their actions on what they are ostensibly fighting for.  Just as a jihadist has no room for compromise in his beliefs, there is no middle ground in fighting war founded on the belief in the rule of law.  If we compromise that principle in the pursuit of terrorists, we have all ready lost the war.  George W. Bush claimed this week to have kept America 'safe', (since 9-11-01).  What was the cost of our safety under Bush's watch?  Under the stewardship of G.W. Bush the United States has endorsed torture, contrary to the rule of international and US law, suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus, contrary to US law, spied on citizens of the US, again in contradiction of US law, and who knows what else we aren't even aware of yet.  Without investigating and prosecuting illegal activities of the United States government conducted in the WOT, we have surrendered our core precepts as a nation and a people and have collectively lost the war on terror.  

As for you, President Bush, I can't even say mockingly, "Nice try".  You lost the "War on Terror", now go home to Texas, and let us try to sort out the mess you've made.





Note:  I thought this a good time to post following GWB's attempt at revisionism during his 'farewell' press conference and public address this week.  I'm travelling and will have limited, if any time to check in here, so I leave it to the rest of you to explore these thoughts.  


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Thanks Peegalito, and bon voyage.

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Gracias Bwak. I'm in layover hell today, (4 hrs at my current undisclosed location, another 3 hr. layover on my next leg.

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Poor dear.

Stay away from the shops that sell you-know-what chocolate. I'll open the lounge, if you need to er, vent.

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Never touch the stuff. You think 'mad cow disease' was bad wait till you get a load of 'mad pig disease'! Ever notice that dull, vacant look in the bone eye? Cows are wussies compared to my porcine relatives.

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I already have mad-chicken disease. I suppose it's not too bad, but I have these sudden fits of obnoxious clucking every now and then.


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I'm not too worried about the Dude. I 'spect he's headed for the far away clouds, the land of dancing & singing.

'Course, there's always some small percentage chance of a forced landings in..... *shudder*...... B*con City.

And happy travels, M.

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B*con City? Like a pig carrying a cartload of sausages, I'm gettin' an uneasy feeling. Cheers mate, as per happy travails! And 'bone' above was supposed to read 'bovine'. Note to self: proof read comments before hitting 'submit'.

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'Proofread' is one word.

Just sayin'.

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Note to self: Lure chicken behind shed. Make her dance the tango. With une Canadien goose. Then PROOFREAD' the fowl scratches in the dirt. It's a shamanic thang.

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Thanks for the reassurance. Chickens are natural worriers.

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GWB: Keeping America scared!

Scared is not safe.

Excellent blog!

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muchas gracias Thera.

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De nada. :)

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Good blog, Miguel.

I've often pondered how it is that the real macho patriots are the ones who - at the first sign of trouble - are willing to surrender their liberty for some notion of personal "safety." Doesn't sound very brave to me, and in fact looks like instant capitulation to the enemy in the case of 9/11.

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Right you are SJ. Le Marquis said it well the other day in his blog. Sumthin' to do with 'cowards'.

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Yep SJ. Kinda shows the basic motivation ain't liberty, as pointed out by Moo Shoe Pork. The shame of it is we did what we had to do a couple of times before without sacrificing our ideals. And did a much better job of it. Sure we made sacrifices of food, fuel, material resources, and our bravest citizens. And we learned then how to get actual intellegence information from prisoners without torture. Even the war profiteers got rich.
We were in fact motivated to defend and preserve our liberties. What motivates us now?

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Curly tail, anytime you decide to post is fine with me. We have lost some battles with a d- performance from w.

But there are future battles to come.

I do not believe our New President will let us down.

But you demonstrate we must be vigilant. We must make noise.

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Thanks for 'getting it' DD. You are a TPM treasure.

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I have participated in this War on Terror. And I can tell you that guns and butter do not ease terror or spread freedom.

Anecdote:

I provided a dinar payment to a woman whose family had been killed by an Army airstrike. Her vehicle matched the description of a suspected VBIED. She and her two year old survived (her hand was maimed), but her nephew, uncle, husband, and father were all killed. She and her daughter were adopted by their sheik who was also acting in the capacity of her legal counsel.

They did not care about the money. She rated ten grand in dinar (approx 1.2 million IQD). The Army provided a letter of apology, but did not name the victims nor did it claim responsibility for the deaths. It was an accident brought about by due diligence in pursuit of terrorists. The sheik wanted the money to instead be used to build a memorial to the dead family. The DOD refused.

After the payment, the locals came and asked us about compensation for lost farmland. Acres of land had been razed and concerted to berms to protect coalition forces patrols.

Did any of these losses aid the defeat of terror and the promotion of stable democracy? Every positive step has myriad unintended consequences that damage the fabric of their culture. The image that lingers from operation Iraqi freedom is the young mother's mangled hand wrapped in gauze and her pretty little dahghter who has to live her life wirh the trauma of being covered in her family's blood until medical help arrived.

This payment occured a year and four months after the airstrike.

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Sorry you got to experience the WOT up close and personal Zip. Glad you're here to join in the discussion. Anybody who thinks the government, (any government), knows what it's doing hasn't been paying attention. If we don't hold our elected officials feet to the fire, who will? The press? Did a hekuva job these last 8 years. Checks and balances? Don't think so. Not without an active an vocal constituency. Gotta run to the next boarding gate. Thanx for commenting.

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Peace be with you. I truly mean it.

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Shokran, Thera. Is it any wonder why I get so upset by the jingoism, be it US or Israeli? I think warfare should be a required social studies course in this country. We support troops and applaud noble warfare with ZERO understanding of what war is... And the sheer volume of misery the US contributes to the world militarily through war and weapons.

If only tolerancw could be bought and sold like weapons. Only then would capitalism work.

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I sure wish I knew what had to be taught to help people understand the horrors of war. I'm not sure it would be allowed to expose young people to films and photos and so on - that would really and truly show what they'd need to see. But if you think about it, how horrible is it that while showing such truthful but horrible films and photos might not be ok in a classroom, they can turn right around and send young people off to see it firsthand, after making war look like nothing more than a video game (I'm thinking the arcades they're now putting up in malls of cities for purposes of recruiting.)

We need to get back to teaching non-violence, I think. But we're up against the weapon sellers and the war mongers and, as you say, the jingoists.

PseudoCyAnts uses the advice: Will Peace. (I like that.)

Peace be with you.

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The class on warfare I envision would not be a catalogue of images, but an education on war in theory and practice. Logistics, tactics, historical apllication, and training fheory. Required reading such as Ceasar's journals, Clausewitz, and On Killing. Contemporary perspectives with criticism.

War saturates our lives. It should be understood and despised. The fruits we enjoy come from our imperial application of force via warfare and implied warfare. Our rate of imports is proportional to the expansion of our military hegemony. If this were understood as a learned maxim, then citizens could make the informed decision as to whether or not cheap imported goods are worth the journey inro the heart of darkness.

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You know, I encourage you to position yourself to advocate for that. If you could get some sort of degree and do a curriculum. Or failing that, if you could find educators to listen to you, I really like that idea. You could do a lot of good. There is nothing like being passionate about something and having the experience, the street cred, to push an agenda.

I truly hope you will pursue this. It actually sounds fascinating. I commend you. I encourage you. Do it!

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I agree with TheraP here, Zip. You have touched a couple items here that aren't commonly discussed, such as the real connection between cheap imported goods and our war expenditures. Your passion wrapped with experience and a great written voice recommends you do something with this topic
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Imagine if you stumbled upon earth and looked at this business of war as an "outsider." Could there possibly be anything much more barbaric than using mayhem and murder to settle disputes? Not to sound too peacenik-ish here, but wouldn't arm wrestling or rock-paper-scissors be equally as determinative of who was right and who was wrong in a dispute as is the method whereby you set your children against their children in murderous fashion, and the last one standing, "Wins"?

Almost 1500 dead in Gaza. Yet the Israelis keep pounding them like fish in a barrel. I guess the Israelis are right, while they make losers of us all.

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We can learn a lot from the social organization of bonobos.

Just one link:

http://williamcalvin.com/teaching/bonobo.htm

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Thanks for the link. I am a real sucker for the anthropomorphising of animals, particularly apes.

And I was damn near moved to tears - of sadness and rage, both - by a picture I saw this last year in my Nat'l Geographic that showed the massive body of an adult male gorilla being carried out of the forest on a stretcher by villagers who were obviously mourning his death by poachers. It kinda' looked like a funeral procession for god, himself, and it haunts me.

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Beautiful words, SJ!

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Thank you, Zip.

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W didn't lose the war on terror.....he forgot where he put it.

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We have won two wars and a third is comming.

This one--will not be so easy.
We were at ease
while the powers of the world were split into factions:
we've changed that.
We have enjoyed fine dreams;
we have dreamed of unifying the world;
we are unifying it--against us.

Two wars, and they breed a third.
Now guard the beaches,
watch the north,
trust not the dawns.
Probe every cloud.
Build power.

Fortress America may yet for a long time stand,
between the east and the west, like Byzantium.

--As for me:
laugh at me.
I agree with you.
It is a foolish business
to see the future and screech at it.

One should watch and not speak.
And patriotism
has run the world through so many blood-lakes:
and we always fall in.

So Many Blood-Lakes
Robinson Jeffers

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Arthur C Clarke said that he did not know what weapons the next world war would be fought with, but the one after that would be fought with sticks and rocks.

I think he knew something.

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As the immortal Iraqi Information Minister, Baghdad Bob said at the beginning:

"The midget Bush and that Rumsfeld deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere."
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Baghdad Bob.... Who knew he was so right, about so many things? Because we SHOULD'VE beaten that Midget Bush with shoes, right at the start.

Shoe-throwing (and beating) needs to be officially enshrined in the checks & balances somewhere, doncha think? After all, isn't it supposed to be all about democratic expression? I'd trade Impeachment AND the Filibuster in an innovation like shoe-throwing any day.

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i'd die for 77 raisins

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The strength of the west generally, and in America in particular, has ALWAYS been our ideas and our ideals. We have believed traditionally in and protected the rights of the individual and value the protection of those things at all costs. We have been concerned with moving away from the ways and means of despots and establishing a new and higher set of standards for civilization below which no nation should ever go.

We have not always been true to our beliefs and it is at those times when we have sunk to our lowest and to our weakest moments. At those times when we have clung tightly to and not abandonded those things that differentiate us from those parts of the world that do not share our ideas and ideals we have been at our best and strongest.

You have hit the nail on the head by saying Bush lost the war on terror by conducting his own. But more importantly, it may well be that we have sacrificed most, if not all, of what our nation worked so hard to gain over two centuries and that is our moral authority in the world which is at the heart of our strength as a global leader and what has made America an inspiration to humanity despite all our imperfections.

Bush was/is an unAmerican tyrant... a sociopathic monster who weakened or destroyed all our national defenses both military and economic. The nation lays now in ruin as a result of his assinine leadership. He participated directly in the planning of crimes against humanity including leading a war of aggression (the most serious crime against humanity). He and his henchmen should be brought immediately before a court of international justice for his war crimes and he should never spend another free day in his life. In my view, he is a traitor to the American cause and to humanity and should be treated as such. History may well judge that Bush was directly responsible for the fall of America. To hell with him and good riddance!

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You sure write fine essays, but your essays like this one demonstrate that the madder you get, the tighter your argument.

Bugliosi has written an entire book about why this man should be prosecuted. And he is so angry that w will just retire into the good life for thirty years or more without interference.

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Once again, oleeb, this should be a blog of its own.

Bravo!

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Hope you're travelling went well, M, and that it goes great whereever you are guy. q

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