NYTimes article on cost of healthcare reform
God bless the NY Times for reporting on the cost of the new healthcare proposal and how many people will still be uninsured. That's really encouraging what a trillion dollars of spending will get us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/health/policy/16obama.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper
What I find most alarming is that there doesn't appear to be a middle ground from the Administration It's either spend a trillion dollars and still have 36 million people remain uninsured, or as President Obama says - "do nothing". Why is he talking about the "do nothing" option? We all know that's not an option. We all agree that "something" needs to be done but maybe that something doesn't entail spending a trillion dollars.
Maybe we need to spend more time finding ways to cut costs without needing to spend a trillion dollars. Here's an interesting article from the CEO of Safeway on how they've been cutting their healthcare costs.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124476804026308603.html
















An oh-so-typical WSJ blame-the-worker oped.
If only the government would allow us employers to drive overweight smokers (that is, lower class workers) out of our company health insurance plans, everything would be hunky-dory -- at least as far as we're concerned.
June 16, 2009 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that what it said? To not let smokers use the plan? I didn't read it that way. A smoker's policy may be more expensive but that doesn't mean it drives them out.
I think they want to make it more expensive for people to smoke. The government's been doing the same thing with cigarette taxes. Then there's the gas tax to discourage driving and reduce carbon footprints. There's the sugar tax so people drink less soda. I think taxes to discourage "sins" are pretty common.
And why resort to throwing blame at the newspaper? This wasn't an editorial but written by the CEO of a Fortune 500 company and also the founder of the Coalition to Advance Healthcare Reform.
June 16, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
A smoker's policy may be more expensive . . . .
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." Anatole France
June 17, 2009 1:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
So I guess you're against the federal tax hike that Obama issued on cigarettes? And you must be against cap-and-trade too, because that disproportionately affects the lower/middle class who spend a much larger percentage of their income on their gas and electric bills? Let me know.
Interesting that your quote mentioned the rich - I guess you also have a problem with the rich paying more taxes than their proportion of national income?
June 17, 2009 6:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm.
Do you think M. France was being -- how do you say it -- ironique?
June 17, 2009 8:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
A oui bit. Very good.
June 17, 2009 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
maybe - but could you answer my questions?
June 17, 2009 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't recall seeing you complaining about spending trillions (as in MULTI trillions) of dollars on these so-called "wars" that we are having. Where did we find the money for that???
June 16, 2009 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see how the validity (or lack thereof) of the money spent in Iraq and Afghanistan has anything to do with whether we should be spending a trillion dollars on a healthcare plan that still leaves tens of millions uninsured.
June 16, 2009 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could it be the NYT and other establishment rags are fronting the assault on Obama's healthcare plan because any success it shows means it will be expanded - and paying for it will mean ending the Mideastern military expeditions that so enthrall our media elite?
June 17, 2009 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
If an extended Medicare plan or other public option were equivalent to private plans, we would start by assuming equal costs. Then we would argue over the efficiency vs inefficiency of public or private. But costs are mixed with coverage questions. Private plans, like private schools, can exclude the clients they don't want. So an excess of expensive clients might make the public plan disproportionately high-cost to the provider.
But this may be offset by the lack of need for profit. In any case, some money is being spent on the uninsured now, and other money is spent on private plans now. We are only arguing over who is contributing how much, as always. Even now, taxpayers spend billions helping hospitals pay for ER visits by the uninsured.
Plenty of wiggle room, I'd think, in the difference between cost-to-patient (or taxpayer) and cost to the system. The latter is on average much higher here than in single-payer countries, last I heard. The system cost does go up in some areas over time, but many of those costs will decrease as procedures become familiar or automated. One can buy an MRI for $400 now. As that machine's price gets further amortized and more competition grows in the form of more commercial labs and clinics, that price will go down.
Costs that will go up include new intervention techniques and new expectations for intervention. Bringing the difficult cases into the system should be net neutral, though, since they are often costing the system now through emergency ER. The only way to save that money for thew whole system is to let them die early and often.
Assuming we don't want that, perhaps a risky assumption, the only reason a private plan can out-compete the public one in either client cost or system cost is to exclude the expensive patients. In other words, your private plan is profitable to the extent it avoids covering illness. Nice business model. Profit through shirking real costs, and dumping them on the public. Sounds rather like industry's approach to pollution.
June 17, 2009 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not bad Tom. I know you have a life. Why not blog this so it is not lost.
June 17, 2009 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink