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   <title>Former civilian senior Intelligence/Policy adviser to Iraq&apos;s Ministry of Interior, detainee screen/interrogator, talks about former Iraqi regime and terrorism</title>
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   <summary>During a series of email and telephone exchanges Matthew Degn relayed to www.regimeofterror.com his vast array of experiences working with intelligence issues relating to the current and former situation in Iraq. Among his responsibilities during his years in Iraq Degn...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>During a series of email and telephone exchanges Matthew Degn relayed to <a href="http://www.regimeofterror.com/">www.regimeofterror.com</a>
his vast array of experiences working with intelligence issues relating
to the current and former situation in Iraq. Among his responsibilities
during his years in Iraq Degn worked as a civilian interrogator
attached to the <span>U.S.</span> Army in Iraq before
working as a Senior Policy/Intelligence Adviser to Deputy General Kamal
and other top intelligence officials with the <a href="http://www.iraqiinterior.com/">Iraq's Ministry of Interior</a>.   Degn, currently working on a book about his experiences in Iraq (<a href="http://degniraqwar.blogspot.com/">personal website here</a>),
continues to argue against those that feel there was no link between
terrorism and Saddam Hussein's regime based on his involvement with
hundreds of interrogations in Iraq and his involvement with many of the
Iraqi Intelligence officials with the Ministry of Interior. Degn says
that much of the public perception about Saddam Hussein's regime and
terrorism are incorrect.</p>

Degn is currently the Director of the Intelligence Studies Program and a professor at American Military University <a href="http://www.amu.apus.edu/Academics/Faculty/faculty-details.htm?facultyid=1500">currently a professor at American Military University</a> whose testimony about events in Iraq has been cited by <em><span>NPR</span></em>, <em><span>ABC</span> News</em>,  <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/22/AR2007092201424.html">the <em>Washington Post</em></a> and elsewhere.   According to his American Military University bio Degn (pronounced Dayne) also: <br />
<blockquote>"has extensive experience in the Middle East, serving most
recently as a senior intelligence/policy advisor to the Iraqi Ministry
of Interior in Baghdad." He also "he was the senior civilian advisor in
the creation of the Iraqi Counter-terrorism Agency, mentored Iraqi
senior government intelligence officials at the Deputy Minister level,
and witnessed the inner workings of the Iraqi government at the highest
levels." "Professor Degn has also been involved in the screening and
interrogation process within Iraq. He served at Abu Ghraib prison and
was among the last Americans in the prison facility before its closing.
He witnessed the harmful effects the infamous prison scandal had on <span>U.S. </span>foreign
policy and the interrogation process. While in different prison
facilities he has interviewed members of Al Qaida, Jaysh-al-Mahdi
(Mahdi Army), Badr Corps, Iranian, Syrian, and Saudi insurgents, and
members of other terrorist entities from Iraq and the surrounding
region. Moreover, he has experience as a senior counter-terrorism
analyst in Washington <span>D.C. </span>and in the
military. Professor Degn is the author of numerous essays and other
writings with subjects ranging from foreign policy and violent militias
to terrorist methodologies, private security companies in war, and the
use of intelligence within the Middle East."</blockquote>

<p>In addition to the hundreds of detainees listed in his American
Military University bio Degn participated in the interrogations of
members of the Abu Nidal organization and Ba'ath party officials at
Camp Cropper, Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. </p>

<u><strong>Former regime's links to al Qaeda</strong></u><br />
When asked about <a href="http://regimeofterror.com/archives/2009/06/saddam_husseins_fbi_interview/">recent media reports citing Saddam Hussein's denial to the <span>FBI </span>about links to al Qaeda</a> Degn viewed these reports as...<i><a href="http://regimeofterror.com/archives/2009/07/former_civilian_senior_intelli_1/">continued here</a></i>. ]]>
      
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   <title>Former CIA Operations Officer says he saw no &quot;operational cooperation&quot; between Saddam (Hussein) and al Qaeda</title>
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   <summary>In a recent interview with this site, former CIA Operations Officer, and co-author of &quot;Operation Hotel California,&quot; Charles &quot;Sam&quot; Faddis, talked about leading the CIA&apos;s first team into northern Iraq in 2002 and what he found. Faddis, now the president...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>In a recent interview with this site, former <span>CIA</span> Operations Officer, and co-author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Operation-Hotel-California-Clandestine-Inside/dp/1599213664">"Operation Hotel California,"</a> Charles "Sam" Faddis, talked about leading the <span>CIA'</span>s first team into northern Iraq in 2002 and what he found.  Faddis, now the president of <a href="http://orionstrategicservices.com/">Orion Strategic Services</a> and working on another book about the future of the <span>CIA, </span>says
that while interviewing dozens of al Qaeda/Ansar al Islam detainees he
saw no signs of cooperation between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. Faddis
also talked about battling Saddam Hussein's Fedayeen, why Saddam
Hussein might not have attacked an al Qaeda/Ansar al Islam outpost in
Iraq and more. </p>

<blockquote><span>ROT</span>: Before discussing some of
the specifics of your assignment in Iraq can you please explain what
your official position was at the time of the invasion and what your
background was to that.
CF: I was Chief of Base Salahalldin at the time conventional forces
invaded. I was running all <span>CIA </span>operations in that portion of Northern Iraq controlled by the <span>KDP.</span> I had been in that capacity since the Fall of 2002. Prior to that, for several months, I was responsible for all <span>CIA </span>personnel
in Northern Iraq. Once we began to plus up, in the Fall of 2002, and
the scope of operations began to grow, we divided the North into two
zones. I took <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Democratic_Party_of_Iraq"><span>KDP</span></a> territory. My former deputy took <a href="http://www.puk.org/"><span>PUK</span></a> territory (ROT: <span>PUK </span>officials <a href="http://www.meforum.org/579/ansar-al-islam-back-in-iraq">talked more of Saddam-al Qaeda links</a><span>KDP</span>).

<p><span>ROT</span>:  In an <a href="http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2008/10/cia-agent-says-pentagon-botche.html">interview with <em>Congressional Quarterly</em>'s Jeff Stein</a> you said that you saw intelligence reports that al Qaeda was in Iraq prior to the <span>U.S. </span>led
invasion but Saddam Hussein's regime was working against them and
working to infiltrate them. Can you talk about what kind intel there
was on this? Testimony from members of Saddam's regime who defected or
were in custody? Members of al Qaeda/Ansar al Islam who were in
custody? Intercepted phone calls or documents? Something else?<br />
CF: There were al Qaeda personnel inside what was technically Iraqi
territory. They were located in the area along the Iranian border
controlled by a radical Islamic group called Ansar al Islam. This area
was not under the functional control of Saddam nor was it under
friendly Kurdish control. It was, in effect, an independent mini
Islamic state. My team acquired information on this presence and on
Iraqi collection regarding it directly. We captured many of the Ansar
and al Qaeda personnel and questioned them. I personally did many of
these interrogations. We also ran a large number of clandestine sources
who reportedl directly to us. Our conclusions regarding the situation
on the ground were not based on one or two reports. They were based on
literally hundreds of reports that we produced ourselves.</p><p><span>ROT</span>:  Where were the majority of the your intel reports on Saddam's regime coming from?  It has been reported in the <a href="http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/index.htm">9-11 Commission</a> and <a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/dci020504.html">elsewhere</a> that the intelligence community had a lot of difficulty penetrating the former regime when it came to looking at <span>WMD'</span>s and whether or not they cooperated with terrorists.  Can you comment on this?<br />
CF: We ran a large number of assets. We debriefed defectors. We had
Kurdish teams operating across the Green Line. We pulled in a lot of
information. That said, I would never be so naive as to think that
means we knew everything that was going on.</p></blockquote><p>Rest of story <a href="http://regimeofterror.com/archives/2009/05/former_cia_operations_officer/">here.</a><br /></p> 

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