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   <title>Palin  = FRONT RUNNER for 2012!  *** BELIEVE IT!! ***</title>
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   <published>2009-11-16T13:02:45Z</published>
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   <summary><![CDATA[Book tour takes her all around swing states; figure that's a coincidence, do you?&nbsp;&nbsp; She's stopping typically in counties that she and McCain won (they took 78 of the 100 least-educated counties nationally).&nbsp;&nbsp;Her story is one of pure ambition, remember.&nbsp;...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<span><p>Book tour takes her all around swing states; figure that's a coincidence, do you?&nbsp;&nbsp; She's stopping typically in counties that she and McCain won (they took 78 of the 100 least-educated counties nationally).&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Her story is one of pure ambition, remember.&nbsp; She told how her life consists of trying to slip through some door and if there is no space for her inside, to try <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sarah-palin-hopes-god-will-show-her-door-white-house">slip herself in anyway</a>:&nbsp;<br /></p><p>"<b>'I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is.</b></p><p><b>"Even if it's cracked up a little bit, maybe I'll plough right on through that and maybe prematurely plough through it, but don't let me miss an open door,' she tells the Fox interviewer Greta Van Susteren."&nbsp;</b></p><p><span>That was in answering the 2012 question! &nbsp;She replied by given us her election game plan (involves God, as she said). &nbsp;We should </span><span><i>believe her</i></span><span> and not talking heads claiming she's still seeking inspiration/looking for a sign. &nbsp;Get real, MSM!</span></p><p>Think&nbsp;about those <i>country cousins</i>; they're key!&nbsp; Pawlenty can't much excite those Talibangelicals and Romney doesn't move them at all.&nbsp; On the Chris Matthews Show (<a href="http://video.thechrismatthewsshow.com/player/?fid=31183#videoid=1175651">the weekend one</a>; not Hardball), our host snuck a peak (with 3:20 left in the program) at Palin's<i> <b>ace</b></i>:&nbsp; remember, her dream venue would be a state of rural, low-information voters and Fundamentalists (yes, the ignorant base).&nbsp; (Huckabee can also appeal to sanctimonious yokels sure, but compared to <b><i>Bible Spice?!</i></b>&nbsp; Come on!!) &nbsp;</p>Well, guess what!&nbsp; She'll get exactly the golden opportunity to pump up the rural <i>religio</i> vote, when she comes roaring out of the Iowa caucases, thumping her petty-retribution screed alongside the<i> Good Book</i>.&nbsp; Matthews is right: she'll harvest a bumper crop of bumpkins from across the Corn State!&nbsp; (BTW, could she order-up another ghost-written volume before then about being The Lord's candidate?). &nbsp;Others will want to stop her, but if she can then just finish respectably in New Hampshire (even, say, a reasonable third), she will reprise that smash-Iowa-victory among South Carolina's holy rollers (think Sanford, DeMint, Joe Wilson, Jim Crow). &nbsp;(Penalize Palin for quitting governorship? &nbsp;To the extent her dumbass supporters are even <i>aware </i>of the issue, they'll accept any excuse (scheming Michelle Obama tricked her, whatever!)) &nbsp;And the mouthy nitwit will be on her way to the nomination!<br />&nbsp;<br /><p>Only if (1) she then <b><i>actually gets nominated</i></b> and then (2) suffers a <b><i>crushing</i></b>&nbsp;<b><i>loss </i></b>to Obama, will Klondike Barbie's days as a superstar finally be numbered. &nbsp;</p></span> ]]>
      
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   <title>40,000 more for Karzai...  Recreating Vietnam?</title>
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   <published>2009-11-13T15:46:00Z</published>
   <updated>2009-11-14T14:07:43Z</updated>
   
   <summary><![CDATA[* As recalled by a fly on the White House wall -- 5 weeks ago*McCHRYSTAL: &nbsp;"You want me to do this, Mr. President?," is what I am saying. &nbsp;"What I need is 40,000 more troops and here's why." &nbsp;If this...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<i>* As recalled by a fly on the White House wall -- 5 weeks ago*</i><i><br /></i><b><br /></b><b>McCHRYSTAL:</b> &nbsp;"You want me to do this, Mr. President?," is what I am saying. &nbsp;"What I need is 40,000 more troops and here's why." &nbsp;If this is the mission, that is what I really need to succeed at it, and I am with great respect giving you the benefit of my sober judgement on the matter.<br /><br /><b>OBAMA:</b> &nbsp;Yeah, I've got that perspective. &nbsp;Thanks, General. &nbsp;...So, <b>Gates!</b> &nbsp;You telling me I give 40,000 troops and I get a stable democracy?<br /><b><br /></b><b></b><b>GATES</b>: Sorry Mr. President, but that one's mostly for Hillary I believe. &nbsp;All we can do, <b><i>at most</i></b>,is provide the military conditions that will allow a properly crafted civilian settlement to take hold, democracy or whatever it may be.<br /><b><br /></b><b>OBAMA:</b> &nbsp;You're not off the hook, Bob, but alright &nbsp;for the moment. &nbsp;..So what about it <b>Hillary</b>, we get a stable democracy in Afghanistan for 40,000 more troops?<br /><b><br /></b><b></b><b>HILLARY:</b> Gosh! Isn't this Bush's war?! {Scattered, nervous laughter}&nbsp;...Look, it depends on Karzai more than anyone.<br /><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN:</b> General McChrystal, why don't you wait outside. &nbsp;Is that okay with you, Bob, and you, Mr. President?<br /><b></b><b><br /></b><b>GATES:</b> &nbsp;Stan, maybe you can go ahead back on over the bridge, and you can stop up in my office later, okay?<br /><b><br /></b><b></b><b>OBAMA:</b> {nods}<br />* Door shuts*&nbsp;<br /><b><br /></b><b></b><b>OBAMA: &nbsp;</b>Alright then, what about Karzai, Hillary?<br /><b><br /></b><b>HILLARY:</b> &nbsp;He's actually a schmuck to be honest with you, Mr. President.<br /><b><br /></b><b>OBAMA: </b>{turns and quickly raises his eyebrows to RAHM}<br /><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN {shaking his head}: </b>&nbsp;Total Schmuck!!<br /><b><br /></b><b>OBAMA:</b> &nbsp;And remind us how he got himself in there, Panetta?&nbsp;<br /><b><br /></b><b>PANETTA:</b> &nbsp;Well, it was my Agency, as you know, Mr. President, but Cheney really ran the show. &nbsp;<br /><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN: &nbsp;</b>With Libby, one needn't bother to add.<br /><b><br /></b><b>PANETTA:</b> Kind of like<b><i> American Idol</i></b> actually. &nbsp;Talent search kicked up this Karzai guy.<br /><b><br /></b><b>HILLARY:</b> Did he have to denounce Roe v. Wade in order to be named President? &nbsp;Or the Dixie Chicks?<br /><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN: </b>&nbsp;{Chuckles, wanly} We understand, Leon, water under the bridge. Are you saying you support Karzai <i><b>now?</b></i><br /><b><br /></b><b>PANETTA:</b> &nbsp;Uh...no, I can't say that!<br /><br /><b>OBAMA {to no one}: </b>&nbsp;Can't say <i><b>that.</b></i><br /><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN: </b>So you agree with the schmuck assessment, then Leon? &nbsp;I mean, don't let us put words in your mouth.<br /><b><br /></b><b>PANETTA:</b> &nbsp;Well... <b><i>creep</i></b>, maybe.&nbsp;...Creep, crook. &nbsp;Conman.<br /><b><br /></b><b>HILLARY:</b> &nbsp;All the C words except "Competent."<br /><b><br /></b><b>P</b><b>ANETTA</b>: Conflicted? &nbsp;<br /><b><br /></b><b>RAHM:</b> Corrupt.<br /><b><br /></b><b>OBAMA: &nbsp;</b><b><i>Confounding.</i></b><br /><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN:</b> &nbsp;Secretary Gates, where does this leave us? &nbsp;If you are saying that the 40,000 troops will succeed only if a guy with <b><i>those</i></b> credentials comes through for us, it seems obvious that we've got more work and the 40,000 is not even the real issue here. &nbsp;I mean, does anyone disagree?<br /><b><br /></b><b>OBAMA: </b>&nbsp;Turn up that volume, Joe.<br /><b><br /></b><b></b><b>McCAIN, on TV:</b> &nbsp;<i>The President will make the </i><b><i>right decision,</i></b><i> I know. &nbsp;The point is that *delaying* that decision can put our men and women in further danger. &nbsp;General McChrystal has said what's needed and it's time to act now without delay!</i><br /><b><br /></b><b>HILLARY {shaking head}</b>: And he's the <b><i>brainy</i></b> one, right? &nbsp;Not Palin, but<b><i> him?</i></b><b><i><br /></i></b><b></b><b><br /></b><b>RAHM (cracking a knuckle):</b>&nbsp;What a <b><i>FUCKWIT!</i></b><br /><b></b><b><br /></b><b>BIDEN:</b> &nbsp;See, this the thing. &nbsp;This is what I meant about becoming Lyndon Johnson, Mr. President.<br /><b></b><b><br /></b><b>OBAMA:</b> &nbsp;I wonder if President Johnson got to read the letters that I do.<br /><b><br /></b><b>GATES: </b>{Eyes rise, meet with Biden's, and <b><i>lock<span>...</span></i></b>}<br />========================================================== ]]>
      
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   <title>The Tao of Cao:  a *Iighthearted* view of how to SWITCH PARTIES!</title>
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   <published>2009-11-08T23:08:10Z</published>
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   <summary>Did you know that Republican biggies like Cantor (who made Republican unanimity his crusade at the Bachmannalia &quot;press event&quot; last week) sat right next to Cao before his vote to intimidate him? Cao was about to make a fool out...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<span><span>Did you know that Republican biggies like Cantor (who made Republican unanimity his crusade at the Bachmannalia "press event" last week) sat right next to Cao before his vote <a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/house/66857-the-gop-vote-why-cao-said-yes">to intimidate him</a>? <br /><br />Cao was about to make a fool out of Cantor, who in believing his own bombast was not realistic about the heavily African-American district where Cao lived, and maybe hadn't expected that <i><b>nervy noon phone call</b></i> from the African-American President to the Vietnamese-American Congressman.<span> </span></span></span><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/LA-districts-109-02.gif" alt="File:LA-districts-109-02.gif" height="379" width="635" />The thing is that Cao can easily switch parties and presumably should <a href="http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/rep_cao_is_only_republican_to.html">as he's a long shot now</a>. Popular accounts are that Cao's district is 75% to 85% Democrat (bear in mind, though, he's strongly pro-life). &nbsp;Rahm went "all out" to get his yes vote (which Cao silently cast at last moment by hitting the button unnoticed while Dems were raucously applauding the just-reached threshold of&nbsp; 218). If he switches, Rahm and Dems can probably protect him from a Dem. challenge in 2010. &nbsp; If he stays, the GOP can't protect him from a wingnut challenge by Club for Growth, etc., whereas in a general, he can lose to almost any Dem. &nbsp; I was trying to figure out if Repubs have a primary and whether it's a closed primary; does anybody know? &nbsp;Probably not as scheduled right now, but there is always a way to <b>inject</b> an opponent as in NY 23.&nbsp; The greater risk is that even Club for Growth may accept they can't win that district, so if Cao wants someone to push him into switching parties for job-security reasons, he may need to manufacture something devious.<span><br /><br /><span>Simple as pie!&nbsp; <br /><br />Provoke public Republican fury, and then, mortified, leave the party in a huff -- tsk-tsk-ing all the way!&nbsp; Among the cruder strategies:<br /><br /><b>(</b><b>1)</b> harshly attack Limbaugh, Club for Growth and Palin, and await the reaction.&nbsp; Shouldn't take long, and the "reaction" may very well come as early as early as Monday anyway BTW, so he may not even need to provoke it.&nbsp; (You wonder if the GOP has been on the horn to Limbaugh imploring him to STFU about this, or how much he'd even listen.)&nbsp; <br /><br /><b>(2)</b> Cao goes on TV and say that the reaction is appalling and claim that even he believes Jim De Mint and Bachmann are agreeing with him and are also somehow denouncing the Tea Parties as far as he knows (i.e., douse the flame with high-grade jet fuel) and *demand* that party leaders issue a statement of support, while saying in a wounded way that many leading Republicans recognize that Limbaugh is a fat, uneducated, drug addict.<br /><b><br />(3)</b> Base, Limbaugh, and whoever else all <b><i>go bananas!</i></b>&nbsp; <b>(3a)</b> <i>[OPTIONAL, for amusement only]</i> get Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to say the Republican Party needs more diverse voices like Cao's, <b>(3b)</b> <i>[OPTIONAL, for amusement only </i>] visits to the District by Bill Clinton and/or Joe Biden to publicly call for Republicans to show understanding of brave Cao and encouraging Cao to be an even more independent voice in Republican Party (maybe in an inner city Rally in heavily black N'awlins itself.) <b>(3c)</b> <i>[OPTIONAL for amusement only]</i> when Fox tries to interview Cao, say he can't talk to Fox because he tends to agree with White House that Fox is not news and ask them on behalf of his concerned constituents if Glenn Beck will step down why is Chris Wallace being so unprofessional in arguing with WH? <b>&nbsp;(3d)</b> [OPTIONAL, for amusement only, <i>only with <b>(3c) </b>launched first]</i> Cao urges a statement of support from Richard B. Cheney and says he believes Cheney should back him as conciliatory gesture even if Cheney's war record will always remain a question mark, as will his Grand Jury testimony. <b>(3e)</b> <i>[OPTIONAL, for amusement only] </i>praise Michael Steele for as a man who has always celebrated the vital role that ethnic minorities play in he Republican Party and given them special treatment, and watch that one take off...<br /><b><br />(4)</b> With the unfortunate shitstorm raging, which Dems formally calls Cao (as he realizes, boo-hoo that Republican "big tent" was just not there for him after all)? &nbsp;Steny Hoyer? &nbsp;Pelosi herself? &nbsp; I tried to think of a Southern Democrat who could, without damaging himself/herself.&nbsp; No ideas for the moment. &nbsp;<br /><br />Anyhow, it's like 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover:&nbsp; there's almost no end to Cao's possible techniques!&nbsp; And he can explain bittersweetly to his constituents that he was forced into it, but on the good side, he'll be able to do more now to benefit them.<br /><br />For now, <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/08/update-lone-gop-vote-came-after-call-from-president-obama/">Cao</a> is darkly reprising the Charles Bronson vigilante character from <i>Death Wish</i>:&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; Repubs:&nbsp;&nbsp; We want more control of the voting from that unruly seat!!&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; Cao:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "You'll have to take it."<br /><br /><b>UPDATE:</b>&nbsp; The truth is always struggling to get out our mouths and it takes a substantial and&nbsp; constant effort to contain it.&nbsp; Cao was able to say little about the real reason for voting aye for the first six and a half minutes of <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/08/cao-says-he-put-his-districts-needs-over-his-partys-wishes/">this video but around 6:30</a> he spills the beans, or some of them:&nbsp; he has worked with Obama on Katrina reconstruction and thinks he can get more aid for New Orleans by playing along, and also for the Vietnamese community nationwide.&nbsp; In addition to not being tarred and feathered in his heavily Democrat district, that is.&nbsp; <br /><span><br /></span></span></span>]]>
      
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   <title>LIVE BLOGGING (NOT INTENDED BY ME OR PLANNED):  REPUBS TEA-BAGGING AGGRESSIVELY RIGHT NOW HEALTH CARE ON HOUSE FLOOR!</title>
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   <published>2009-11-07T16:01:47Z</published>
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   <summary><![CDATA[UPDATE:&nbsp; TPM-TV did get a good bunch of this on film (nice going, TPM-TV!), and it was much worse, longer, and more tense live, though you sure get the idea from here: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/11/just_ugly.php#more?ref=fpblg..........................................................................................................................ORIGINAL: Check MSNBC TV for example, which carries...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<b>UPDATE:</b>&nbsp; TPM-TV did get a good bunch of this on film (nice going, TPM-TV!), and it was much worse, longer, and more tense live, though you sure <b>get the idea</b> from here: <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/11/just_ugly.php#more?ref=fpblg">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/11/just_ugly.php#more?ref=fpblg</a><br />..........................................................................................................................<br /><br /><b>ORIGINAL:</b> Check MSNBC TV for example, which carries this live. <br /><br />They are terrorizing the chairman, John Dingell, with never-ending objections.<br /><br />======================================================<br /><br />This is unbelievable.&nbsp; They are mau-mau-ing the process.&nbsp; It's the most twisted thing.<br /><br />=======================================================<br /><br />Okay, this is not my venue or what have you -- no expert.&nbsp; But what just happened is about 15 Democratic Congresswomen used the device of asking the right to advise and extend their remarks to INSERT a simple statement of sentiment, one sentence on why they say it's good for health care.&nbsp; <br /><br />Republicans were unbelievably aggressive in obstructing. <br /><br />Now the Republicans are stating why they oppose it, in a short statement of sentiment.&nbsp; Dems are being polite and quiet.&nbsp; Repubs are abusing their short statements of sentiment by speechifying.&nbsp; Dingell retaliating by charging Repubs<br />&nbsp;for debate time.&nbsp; Okay, now this is over.<br /><br />Back to Dems who have 28 minutes left to talk.&nbsp; Let's see how obnoxious Republicans are...<br /><br />========================================================<br /><br />Okay, the circus of earlier has calmed down greatly, so I'll sign off on this entry.&nbsp; It was starting to look like they were going to bring Palin in to do some fancy pageant walking while they hung a big Hitler poster on the wall for a while, which is why I raised the alarm. <br />&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />&nbsp;<br /> ]]>
      
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   <title>What&apos;s GOOD, BAD, and *VERY* GOOD from *NY 23*?</title>
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   <published>2009-11-04T12:49:39Z</published>
   <updated>2009-11-04T16:10:23Z</updated>
   
   <summary>UPDATE: DO SEE THE *WILD* Lawrence O&apos;Donnell video! You can bet that the Morning Joe people had words for him afterwards! ============================================================== GOOD that the good guys won. BAD that it does not fully rouse up Palinesque wackaloons who would...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong>  DO SEE THE <a href="http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=3825873&ref=fpblg">*WILD* Lawrence O'Donnell video</a>! You can bet that the Morning Joe people had words for him afterwards!</p>

<p>============================================================== </p>

<p>GOOD that the good guys won. </p>

<p>BAD that it does not fully rouse up Palinesque wackaloons who would have had then *really* gone after e.g. moderate GOP Gov. Charlie Crist in Florida, even though they still partly will.  Supposedly they have 12 candidates they're after in all; such is their death wish!  (They already tried telling Klondike Barbie that NY 23 was a tricky district so she shouldn't upset the applecart:  "Overreach THIS!," she intoned.) </p>

<p>GOOD that it still leaves R's divided. </p>

<p>BAD that they may still be more organized having managed to lose a seat that should have been child's play for them. </p>

<p>VERY GOOD, if they stick to this emerging meme:  people need a role in selecting their nominees!  Those guys who tried to do them a favor by putting forward Dede as electable can never get away with that again, is all!   And that is the *compromise* position; everybody says it, from envenomated tea-baggers, to old-school walrus Haley Barbour. </p>

<p><em>Role in selecting?</em>  That means <em><strong>primary-ing</strong></em> their asses!  And Republican primaries these days are howling nut fests!  And Limbaugh & co.  will be revving up those low-information voters about who are the real unelectable zealots who deserve their nitwit votes for nominee!   So we'll be seeing <em>more</em> spinny-eyed Doug Hoffmans! </p>]]>
      
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   <title>MSM has DELIGHTED in repeating Fox&apos;s asinine talking points, now CONCLUSIVELY *DISPROVEN*</title>
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   <published>2009-11-04T00:03:21Z</published>
   <updated>2009-11-04T17:09:36Z</updated>
   
   <summary><![CDATA[Today's a good time to return to Howard Kurtz's October 25 hatchet job on the White House's policy on Fox News.&nbsp;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAwqRqPpccM&nbsp; He gathered together an ex-Fox commentator Jane Hall, and some Psycho-Lady from Reverend Moon's reactionary Washington Times, and the...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<span><p>Today's a good time to return to Howard Kurtz's October 25 hatchet job on the White House's policy on Fox News.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAwqRqPpccM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAwqRqPpccM</a><span>&nbsp; He gathered together an ex-Fox commentator Jane Hall, and some Psycho-Lady from Reverend Moon's reactionary Washington Times, and the three of them beat up on a game fellow "Nico" from Huffington Post.&nbsp; Together they recited 16 talking points from Fox almost on cue, masquerading as discussion.&nbsp; It honestly had the feel of very professional propaganda, just enough reality to make the bombardment of baloney seem credible.&nbsp; Kurtz has been spreading the laughable tale BTW that Washington Times is "more legitimate than ever" now since some guy he used to work with at the Washington Post has prostituted himself by joining the Mooney Tunes.&nbsp; Eager to saw of the limb upon he was already so pecariously perched, Kurtz apparently used that baloney to justify booking Psycho-Lady of all people!&nbsp; His pal is a good chum, so Psycho Lady must be fair and balanced also! <br /></span></p><p>The three of them ticked off Fox talking points on why WH strategy is bad,&nbsp;<i>seriatim</i>:&nbsp;<br /></p><p>PSYCHO-LADY:</p><p>(1) "because it's an attack on the media!", and (2) it's such big (and presumably harmful?) story for the White House that "other networks have to cover it!"&nbsp;<br /></p><p>JANE HALL:</p><p>(3) "have to differentiate between their commentators and their news."&nbsp;<br /></p><p>John Stewart did a great job (<a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-29-2009/for-fox-sake-">For Fox Sake</a>!) of exploding this canard:&nbsp; the "opinion"&nbsp;wackaloons spew their insults and, then the "news"&nbsp;team reports their agitprop as though<i>&nbsp;news</i>:&nbsp;&nbsp; <i>DEEP VOICE OF CONCERN:</i>&nbsp; <b>"Many today are beginning to question,"</b> blah-blah.&nbsp;</p><p>(4)<span>"Not a good strategy for Obama Administration"&nbsp; (This was repeated three times.)</span></p>(5) Obama should go on Fox's shows, including with their tawdry B-girl <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/mare_nostrum/2009/09/recommend-please-if-smirking-c.php">Chris Wallace</a>.&nbsp;<p><br /></p><p>(6) They "don't know"&nbsp; the difference between news shows and opinion.&nbsp; That's right! <i>"Don't know."</i>&nbsp;&nbsp;Yuh!</p><p>PSYCHO-LADY:&nbsp;<br /></p><p>(7) Obama talks to MSNBC-TV and that's wrong.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>(8) It's not&nbsp;<b>at all&nbsp;</b>like Bush/Cheney's 24/7 control of media access, since Olbermann is just the same as that great journalist Rush Limbaugh (I don't even undersand this but this is what the crazy Washington Times Psycho-Lady said).&nbsp;<br /></p><p>KURTZ:&nbsp;<br /></p><p>(9) Why it certainly <b>*is*</b> "Nixonian"&nbsp; to dismiss the propaganda network, Kurtz helpfully concludes, supported by the others (dredges up idiotic quotes from misguided liberals). Veteran Nixon conman Ailes, now of Fox, personally came up with this talking point so enthusiastically recited by Kurtz.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>PSYCHO-LADY (up on her high horse):&nbsp;<br /></p><p>(10) What is really terrible is they are&nbsp;<b>attacking the free press!</b>&nbsp; Repeats this insanity later also.&nbsp;We have already <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/mare_nostrum/2009/10/holy-shit-he-really-was-born-o.php">seen in this blog</a> what passes for journalistic "freedom" in Murdoch propaganda mills.<br /></p><p>KURTZ:&nbsp;</p><p>(11) &nbsp;Our host agrees with Psycho-Lady's sourcing for the important point above,&nbsp;and then,</p><p>(12)&nbsp;stokes the fire by bloviating about the Press-Pool incident, a cherished and endlessly repeated Fox News half-truth about a non-newsworthy non-incident.</p><p>(13)&nbsp; It is fair to go after MNSBC-TV! (though, isn't it<i> funny </i>how they never say, "But on the other hand, unlike Fox's propagandist "news," they&nbsp;<b>do</b>&nbsp;have NBC News, and even with right-winger David Gregory moderating their now much-degraded <i>Meet the Press?</i>)</p><p>And HERE is the <i>piece de resistance</i><i>!</i> &nbsp;Kurtz declares, really unbelievably, that it is</p><p>(14) <b>"unfair to judge an entire organization by a few commentaries."</b> Read that again, it's a direct quote.&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp;<i>few commentaries!</i>&nbsp;&nbsp;That was his conclusion, his sum-up!&nbsp; LOL!<br /></p><p>Does <b><i>Fox</i></b> even say that craziness?&nbsp; I thought that <i><b>their </b></i>lie was that it is important to distinguish their propagandistic "news"&nbsp; from their brownshirt commentary, no?&nbsp; Did fair-and-balanced Howard <b><i>outdo</i></b> them in deceit?&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Meanwhile, Jane Hall used Chris Wallace's stock talking point <i>(not, "Hey big boy!"),&nbsp; </i>(15) "you can't <b>whine!</b>"&nbsp;several times&nbsp;</p><p>and (16) added Fox's trump card that supposedly decides the argument, "THEIR RATINGS HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER!" (Most say, "their ratings have shot up!")&nbsp;<br /></p><p>See, we have to accept that if Fox gets high ratings, and especially increased ones, WH simply&nbsp;<b>must</b>&nbsp;regard them as a news network since WH is then supposedly boxed in.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Make any sense?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Apparently this passes for logic among the MSM; they nearly all chimed in to endorse the non-sequitur.&nbsp; The White House showed courage in saying the truth, and has shown rare leadership, even if it may be harmful to them in short term. We can be happy our children have a President prepared to face facts.&nbsp; MSM has been cowardly, with most nearly as terrible as Kurtz. &nbsp;Ratings might be how Fox would <i>like</i> to measure things, but the White House is not stupid:&nbsp; <br /></p><p>Either it is news or not, and it certainly <i>is not news,</i> <b>not even if you drag out every last spinning-eyed Psycho-Lady from the funny farm!&nbsp; </b>But finally we learn that that last talking point is not only irrelevant, but like&nbsp;so much from Fox,&nbsp;</p><p><b>it is also a lie!! &nbsp;</b><a href="http://mediamatters.org/columns/200911030004">http://mediamatters.org/columns/200911030004</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;Fox's<b>&nbsp;ratings are NOT up!</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;(You see, MSM? &nbsp;That's is <i>real</i> reporting, you begin with<b><i> facts!</i></b>) &nbsp;Meanwhile, the MSM has dutifully reported Fox's (a) disinformation and (b) sophistry on this subject, how often would you say?&nbsp;</p><p>10,000 times around the world, estimating conservatively? &nbsp;Thanks to Media Matters for being maybe the only pros.<br /></p></span> ]]>
      
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   <title>&quot;Still, some *top professionals* HAPPEN TO WORK at Fox!&quot;</title>
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   <summary><![CDATA[What's that?&nbsp; You mean, professional cameramen? (No disrespect to my cameramen friends!)To all those feeling a need to stand up forth the "professionalism" of some writers and editors working there:&nbsp; Wise up!Journalists of integrity do not have bylines with the...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[What's<b><i> that?</i></b>&nbsp; You mean, professional <i><b>cameramen</b></i>? (No disrespect to my cameramen friends!)<br /><br />To all those feeling a need to stand up forth the "professionalism" of some writers and editors working there:&nbsp; <b>Wise up!</b><br /><br />Journalists of integrity do not have bylines with the <a href="http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm">North Korean News Service</a> ("<i>Kim Yong Nam Congratulates Zambian President!</i> "), neither
did they didn't write copy for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Worker">Daily Worker</a>. &nbsp; Nor do they accept employment from Fox "News." <br /><br />When you go <a href="http://pic.pbsrc.com/spacer.gif">cooking up rallies</a> calling the President Pol Pot, do
P.R. for them, and then cover the staged rallies yourselves, you are
taking yourself out of legitimate competition for the <a href="http://www.rtdna.org/pages/awards.php?g=67">Edward R. Murrow Award</a>.&nbsp; It's no defense to say it's just your employer and you're
somehow not complicit, because you are and you bloody well know it (and so do your colleagues).<br /><br />An
exception can be made for people who are both, <b>(1)</b> truly struggling to
feed their families in hard times and <b>(2)</b> trying to get the hell out
there to a respectable job as very soon as possible.&nbsp; An exception
can <b>NOT</b> be made for journalists who found it "just a good fit" or who
like the money.<br /><br />Just as a prostitute cannot be regarded as a
nice girl who merely appreciates all that cash, although clearly one might
understand if she is in an extreme situation with children to feed.&nbsp;
When you walk into that door voluntarily and absent those extreme
circumstances, you are leaving your professionalism and integrity
behind.&nbsp; (And you can ask her (or him, if perchance a gigolo): <i>it's hard to walk back out</i>.)<br /><br />You
are just as much a whore as is either a greedy prostitute who has other
choices, or (<b><i>even worse</i></b>) that smirking, smarmy <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/mare_nostrum/2009/09/recommend-please-if-smirking-c.php">Chris Wallace.</a> &nbsp; It's a choice
you make, and it has consequences.&nbsp; Own them.<br /><br /><b>And don't you let NOBODY TELL YOU DIFFERENT!</b> ]]>
      
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   <title>[False Alarm] If it is really true that news bureaus RALLIED TO DEFEND FOX, they are a bunch of TRIBALIST, MASTURBATORY NINNIES  (Say it ain&apos;t so if you ain&apos;t ninnies; we&apos;re *listening*)!</title>
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   <summary><![CDATA[UPDATE: Great, so the story was wrong!&nbsp;Good to hear. &nbsp;No prob.With the White House showing such courage in the face of swine, I am much relieved that the reported cowardly buffoonery did not occur!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/23/white-house-loses-bid-exclude-fox-news-pay-czar-interview/ Fox News is the scourge of...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<b>UPDATE: Great</b>, so the <b><a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/wh-were-happy-to-exclude-fox-but-didnt-yesterday-with-feinberg-interview.php?ref=fpb">story was wrong</a>!</b>&nbsp;Good to hear. &nbsp;No prob.<br /><br />With the White House showing such courage in the face of swine, I am <b>much</b> relieved that the reported cowardly buffoonery did not occur!<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/23/white-house-loses-bid-exclude-fox-news-pay-czar-interview/">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/23/white-house-loses-bid-exclude-fox-news-pay-czar-interview/</a> <br /><br />Fox News is the scourge of billionaire-funded overseas propaganda in our free society. &nbsp;Nothing less absolutely, and that's well been proved. &nbsp;See, the old <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/programs/info/1404.html">Frontline</a>, if one was too frivolously unprofessional and irresponsible to take such a ridiculous/embarassing stand without the rank minimal step of <b><i>looking it up!! </i></b>&nbsp; If it is really true that genuine journalists bandied together to defend repulsive disinformation merely because certain deal-pushing producers investing in Glenn Beck et al, comically also called themselves "journalists" when convenient, that is a black disgrace that cannot and should not be forgiven. &nbsp;<br /><br />Ever! &nbsp;And they are no better than Beck, now that he is their cohort, if true (and pray it isn't this way!). And so I am still hoping that they are not so utterly **cretinous!** &nbsp;I want to believe that these executives are not so spittingly disdainful of real journalists (who may have foolishly put their faith in their employers) to sell out all, so as to stand by a for-big-profit <b><i>foreign</i></b> propagandist scum. &nbsp;One who has notoriously shamed <b><i>several</i></b> other countries along the way, as EVEN THE MOST CURSORY LOOK would reveal!! &nbsp;The execs just *couldn't* be so breezily dismissive of their professional ethics, could they?<br /><br />Say it ain't so, Joes! &nbsp;Say you ain't the <b><i>ultimate patsy tools</i></b> and kindly explain ***why not***, okay?!<span><br /></span>]]>
      
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   <title>HOLY SHIT, HE REALLY *WAS* BORN OVERSEAS!!!</title>
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   <summary><![CDATA[It turns out the far right has been CORRECT about this all along, and it is beyond upsetting! Head-spinning!&nbsp; The threat, of course, is that a foreigner not born or raised in U.S., without the innate love of country that...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p></p><p>It turns out the far right has been
<b>CORRECT</b> about this all along, and it is beyond upsetting!</p>
<p><br />
</p>
<p>Head-spinning!&nbsp; The threat, of course, is that a
foreigner not born or raised in U.S., without the innate love of
country that such implies, either is himself or brings in people  (a)
determined to overturn the Constitutional order, and the foreigner (b) actually gets his hands on real power.   At the heart of our
Republic, the foreigner and his lieutenants use the bully pulpit, move political
parties, influence people at every level.<b>  Not one of us</b>, he uses his
power to sow sedition, promote disorder, etc.</p>
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<p><b>I feel so naïve!  </b>Beck has
warned us about foreign infiltrators, Fox has warned us, Lou Dobbs has warned us, think of the
millions that are in the hands of our enemies and the lengths they may
have gone to make this happen!  Even Bachmann is somewhat vindicated!</p>
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</p>
<p>Morally destitute, born an alien to
us, disdainful of national laws, he understands only combat and
brutality.  The people who work for him may be native-born Americans
but even they have no loyalty to real democracy, elections,Constitutional order, and they work for somehow who now turns out be
a foreigner!&nbsp; One such infiltrator snarled,<a href="http://mail.google.com/mail/HOLY%20SHIT,%20HE%20REALLY%20WAS%20BORN%20OVERSEAS%21%21%21%20%20It%20turns%20out%20the%20far%20right%20has%20been%20CORRECT%20about%20this%20all%20along,%20and%20it%20is%20beyond%20upsetting%21%20%20The%20threat,%20of%20course,%20is%20that%20a%20foreigner%20not%20born%20or%20raised%20in%20U.S.,%20without%20the%20inate%20love%20of%20country%20that%20such%20implies,%20either%20is%20himself%20or%20brings%20in%20people%20%20%28a%29%20determined%20to%20overturn%20the%20Consitutional%20order,%20and%20%28b%29%20the%20foreigner%20actually%20gets%20his%20hands%20on%20real%20power.%20%20%20At%20the%20heart%20of%20our%20Republic,%20he%20and%20underlings%20use%20the%20bully%20pulpit,%20move%20political%20parties,%20inflence%20people%20at%20every%20level.%20%20Not%20one%20of%20us,%20he%20uses%20his%20power%20to%20sew%20sedition,%20promote%20disorder,%20etc.%20%20I%20feel%20so%20na%C3%AFve%21%20%20Beck%20has%20warned%20us%20about%20foreign%20enemies,%20Fox%20has%20warned%20us,%20think%20of%20the%20millions%20that%20are%20in%20the%20hands%20of%20our%20enemies%20and%20the%20lengths%20they%20have%20gone%20to%20make%20this%20happen%21%20%20Even%20Bachmann%20is%20somewhat%20vindicated%21%20%20It%20should%20never%20happen,%20but%20it%20has.%20%20Morally%20destitute,%20born%20as%20an%20alien%20to%20us,%20disdainful%20of%20national%20laws,%20he%20understands%20only%20combat%20and%20brutality.%20%20The%20people%20who%20work%20for%20him%20may%20be%20native-born%20Americans%20but%20even%20thet%20have%20no%20loyalty%20to%20real%20democacy%20or%20elections%20or%20Constitutional%20order,%20and%20they%20work%20for%20somehow%20who%20now%20turns%20out%20be%20a%20foreigner%21%20%20One%20such%20infiltrator%20said,%20%E2%80%9CIf%20I%20just%20had%20somebody%20who%20was%20willing%20to%20sit%20on%20the%20other%20side...%20until%20the%20last%20shot%20is%20fired,%20we%E2%80%99d%20be%20fine.%E2%80%9D%20%20%20%20%20That%27s%20right.%20%20Foreign%20scumbag%20investor%20Rupert%20Murdoch%20owns%20Newscorp,%20they%20own%20Fox%20News,%20and%20he%20still%20owns%20disgraceful%20newspapers%20in%20his%20foreign%20homeland%20%20of%20Australia:%20%20%20Born%20overeas%20he%20has%20no%20loyalty%20to%20the%20United%20States,%20never%20even%20having%20lived%20here%20until%20he%20was%2054%20years%20old%20when%20he%20somehow%20technically%20became%20a%20citizen%20and%20strictly%20for%20business%20reasons.%20%20The%20Australia%20record%20is%20certainly%20familiar,%20he%20backed%20one%20politician%20vicious%20with%20propaganda%20after%20the%20pre-existing%20Prime%20Minister%20refused%20his%20demand%20that%20be%20made%20ambassador%20from%20Australia%20to%20U.K.%20%28that%27s%20right,%20he%20apparently%20wanted%20to%20be%20an%20American%20citizen,%20yet%20somehow%20Australia%27s%20ambassador%20to%20yet%20a%20third%20country%29.%20%20He%20took%20revenge:%20%20%E2%80%9CMUNGO%20MacCALLUM:%20The%20journalists%27%20copy%20was%20being%20altered.%20They%20were%20given%20specific%20instructions%20on%20what%20they%20could%20write%20and%20what%20they%20couldn%27t%20write.%20And%20where%20the%20instructions%20weren%27t%20specific,%20they%20learnt%20pretty%20bloody%20quickly%20because%20nothing%20appeared%20in%20the%20paper%20if%20it%20didn%27t%20follow%20the%20line.%20It%20was%20the%20most%20extraordinarily%20ruthless%20and%20one-sided%20political%20coverage%20I%20think%20any%20of%20us%20can%20remember%20and%20we%20devoutly%20hope%20we%20never%20see%20it%20again.%20%20MAX%20SUICH:%20It%20was%20the%20first%20time%20he%27d%20really%20unleashed%20a%20ferocious%20campaign%20against%20a%20politician%20in%20an%20unfair%20fashion.%20The%20manner%20in%20which%20it%20was%20done%20was%20undoubtedly%20in%20breach%20of%20journalistic%20ethics.%20%20KEN%20AULETTA:%20The%20one-sided%20coverage%20sparked%20demonstrations.%20Murdoch%27s%20papers%20were%20burned%20in%20the%20streets.%20And%20then%20Murdoch%27s%20own%20journalists%20walked%20out.%20It%20was%20a%20rarity--%20reporters%20striking%20not%20over%20money,%20but%20ethics.%20%20But%20again%20Murdoch%20had%20backed%20the%20winner%20and%20now%20he%20wanted%20a%20favor%20from%20Prime%20Minister%20Fraser:%20a%20change%20in%20the%20laws%20regarding%20the%20ownership%20of%20T.V.%20stations.%20Murdoch%27s%20plans%20to%20expand%20into%20foreign%20markets%20conflicted%20with%20laws%20requiring%20station%20owners%20to%20maintain%20their%20permanent%20residence%20in%20Australia.%20Fraser%20had%20the%20law%20changed.%E2%80%9D%20We%20should%20have%20heeded%20the%20warning%20of%20the%20far%20right%20and%20Fox%20itself.%20%20As%20man%20born%20overseas,%20he%20is%20a%20public%20enemy.%20%20It%20is%20an%20outrage%20this%20foreign%20man%20with%20this%20odious%20record%20controls%20the%20thinking%20of%20millions%20of%20spineless%20sheep,%20even%20including%20the%20Vice%20President,%20Dick%20Cheney,%20who%20required%20that%20Fox%27s%20tawdray%20propagnda%20be%20on%20whereever%20he%20went."> "If I just had somebody who was willing to sit on the other side... until the last shot is fired, we'd be fine."</a>
  
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<p>That's right.  Foreign scumbag investor
Rupert Murdoch owns Newscorp, they own Fox News, and he still owns
disgraceful newspapers in his distant homeland  of Australia:   Born
overseas, he is without loyalty to the United States, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch">not known to have lived in USA till he was 54 years old when he somehow technically became a citizen</a> and strictly for business reasons.  The ugly Australia
record is familiar:&nbsp; now technically living outside Australia, he backed one Aussie politician with vicious
propaganda after the pre-existing Prime Minister refused his demand
that be made ambassador from Australia to U.K. (did the rapscallion want to be an American citizen, yet somehow <b>Australia's</b>
ambassador to yet a third country?).&nbsp; <br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/programs/transcripts/1404.html">Murdoch's revenge</a>:</p>

<p>"<b>MUNGO MacCALLUM</b>: The
journalists' copy was being altered. They were given specific
instructions on what they could write and what they couldn't write.
And where the instructions weren't specific, they learnt pretty
bloody quickly because nothing appeared in the paper if it didn't
follow the line. It was the most extraordinarily ruthless and
one-sided political coverage I think any of us can remember and we
devoutly hope we never see it again. 
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<p><b>MAX SUICH</b>: It was the first time he'd really unleashed a
ferocious campaign against a politician in an unfair fashion. The
manner in which it was done was undoubtedly in breach of journalistic
ethics. 
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<p><b>KEN AULETTA</b>: The one-sided coverage sparked demonstrations.
Murdoch's papers were burned in the streets. And then Murdoch's own
journalists walked out. It was a rarity-- reporters striking not over
money, but ethics."&nbsp; (Wow, <b><i>character!&nbsp;</i></b> We don't see former journalist-turned prostitute Chris Wallace fussing about no ethics, do we?!)</p>
<p>As we see, it <b><i>wasn't news there either</i></b>.<br />
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<p>"[N]ow he wanted a favor
from Prime Minister Fraser: a change in the laws regarding the
ownership of T.V. stations. Murdoch's plans to expand into foreign
markets <b>conflicted with laws requiring station owners to maintain
their permanent residence in Australia. <i>Fraser had the law changed.</i></b><i>"&nbsp; </i>Fraser was basically blackmailed by Murdoch that otherwise he'd unleash his hideous agitprop machine.<br />
</p>
<p><b>CONCLUSION:</b>&nbsp; We should have heeded the cautions of the far right and Fox
itself.<b>&nbsp; A man born overseas pulling strings in our midst, we have a ruthless public enemy.  It is an
outrage that a foreign man with this odious record controls the
thinking of millions of spineless sheep, and even potent madmen like Dick Cheney who <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0322061cheney1.html">required that Fox's tawdry propaganda be tuned in whereever he went</a></b> (but the latter is a record of shame and failure all its own).
There ought to be a law against this, but as if see from Australia, if
such a noxious parasite gets those fangs in to begin with, it can grow so
strong as to have the law itself changed, undermining the public interest.&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>Good God, and they TRIED TO WARN US!!!</b><br />
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   <title>Balloon Hoax?!  NO WAY!! Where is the *TRUST*?!!!</title>
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   <summary><![CDATA[I'm totally in the tire swing for this telegenic, UFO family, ain't you?!BTW did you see the vid of the lad blowing chow during the Today Show?Oh, sorry! &nbsp;(My bad!)Look! The pity is that with two wife-swapping "reality" shows under...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[I'm totally in the tire swing for this telegenic, UFO family, <b><i>ain't you?!</i></b><br />BTW did you see the vid of the lad blowing chow during the Today Show?<br /><br /><img src="http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/balloon-boy-vomit.jpg" /><br /><br />Oh, sorry! &nbsp;(My bad!)<br /><br /><br />Look! The pity is that with two wife-swapping "reality" shows under their belts, that perfectly ordinary UFO out back, and their insistent attempts to sell their lame and boring life stories to networks TLC and TMZ as a reality show, people jumped to conclusions, formed *doubts*!! &nbsp; Why, that slap-happy sherriff didn't today; that would mean his deputies were crudely duped and paraded on TV as morons by amateur media hucksters yesterday! &nbsp; That's awful; WHAT ABOUT SUPPORTING OUR TROOPERS, HUH??!! &nbsp;Okay, the boy twice *<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxtFXtiUbbw">admitted* to the hoax to Wolf Blitzer, and the father conspicuously said "yeah</a>," and the parents have no remotely credible explanation. &nbsp;So what, you JUST JUMP ON THEM AND JUDGE THEM??!! &nbsp;<br /><br />HELLO!!!<br /><br /><br />What did the BIBLE teach us about "doubting Thomas's," and how would *you* like to be carried off by that backyard UFO? &nbsp;Lewis Carroll wrote, 'Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." &nbsp;Have we<b> really lost </b>that can-do spirit???]]>
      
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<entry>
   <title>ROGER AND ME.  by V.I. LENIN (the *legend* of Fox News!!).</title>
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   <summary> Lenin wrote a lot about having revolutionary newspapers such as the Spark (Iskra), Forward (Vperyod), and Proletarians (Proletary) appear credible. He sternly urged to have &quot;news&quot; (and even art criticism!) that appeared to be dry in style; it was...</summary>
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<p>Lenin wrote a lot about having
revolutionary newspapers such as the Spark (Iskra), Forward
(Vperyod), and Proletarians (Proletary) appear credible.  He sternly
urged to have "news" (and even art criticism!) that appeared to
be dry in style; it was presented as if neutral in order to gain
phoney respectability (accordingly, the bolshevik contributors went
really wild only in op-ed pages, or such was Lenin's vision).</p>

<p>Roger Ailes who runs Fox News is a
career, far-right wing political manipulator.  He knows media, sure,
and was even involved in Broadway plays <a href="http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/A/htmlA/ailesroger/ailesroger.htm">http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/A/htmlA/ailesroger/ailesroger.htm</a>, as well as a botched attempt
to bring the scourge Rush Limbaugh to TV.  
</p>


"<span><span>While
serving as both CNBC's president and Limbaugh's producer, Ailes went
on Don Imus's radio show to promote Limbaugh's reports of a "suicide
cover-up, possibly murder," in the death of White House counsel
Vincent Foster. 'The guy who's been doing an excellent job for the
New York Post [Christopher Ruddy]...for the first time on the Rush
Limbaugh show said that...he did not believe it was suicide.... Now,
I don't have any evidence.... These people are very good at hiding or
destroying evidence.'"&nbsp;
</span></span><blockquote><span></span></blockquote><p>
</p>
<a href="http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/05/12/tv/index2.html">http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2004/05/12/tv/index2.html</a>
<p>Ailes was never a journalist, though,
but merely someone bent on transforming media into a reactionary
political instrument.  Going back aways, he is known for inventing
the original Swift Boat technique of destroying an opponent by a
noisy smear
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/29/weekinreview/the-nation-swift-boats-and-the-lessons-of-dukakis.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/29/weekinreview/the-nation-swift-boats-and-the-lessons-of-dukakis.html</a>,
and he slipped by the Federal Elections Commission with his Willie
Horton abuse of Michael Dukakis only because the legendarily
ineffectual body deadlocked. 
</p>

<p>In time, Ailes began having trouble
with his CNBC gig and another NBC cable network where he had a one-hour show;
that's when NBC pulled the plug and went in the other direction by hatching
MSNBC.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ailes</a>&nbsp; Briefly cast adrift, Ailes soon met a foreign misanthrope with a huge bankroll and no sense of honor named Rupert Murdoch:  Ailes thus
concocted Fox News! 
</p>

<p>Cut to 2009, and they have admitted
that Fox News did "P.R." for the teabaggers!  <span><b>Admitted
it!!!</b></span> <a href="http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=2378425">http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=2378425</a></p>
<p> Just a little "public relations"
work by the "news" network 
<a href="http://mediamatters.org/reports/200904080025">http://mediamatters.org/reports/200904080025</a>
for anti-Obama Swift Boating.  They also like to claim the 
"department" that organized Beck's rally uses a different
non-newsy name somehow; thus, the *actual* news group preserves its (objectivity?).&nbsp; BALONEY!&nbsp; It's all run by Ailes and it's all
called Fox News despite their caterwauling that somehow it isn't. 
Lenin would approve (and Orwell would recognize the stunt): when you get
caught red-handed, <b>insist</b> that something plainly impossible is somehow
nonetheless true.   Ailes had explained his "fair and balanced"
journalistic philosphy as to Obama, upon hiring Beck in 2009:  ."I
see this as the Alamo...If I just had somebody who was willing to sit
on the other side of the camera until the last shot is fired [meaning
Beck], we'd be fine."   (And don't get me started again about
<i><b>prostitute extraodinaire</b></i>, <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/mare_nostrum/2009/09/recommend-please-if-smirking-c.php">Chris Wallace</a>!) 
</p>

<p>Having no sense of their risible
absurdity but possessing bottomless chutzpah, Fox wants to bring up
the comparison of when Nixon shut out the New York Times.   Because by
isolating a reputable news organization, Nixon had set himself up. 
Did I say reputable news organization?  Ailes (a <b>Nixo</b><span><span><b>n</b> protégé</span></span>!) <span><span></span></span>is
thus comparing his tawdry farce to none other than the Grey Lady! 
</p>

<p>A politician should never take on a
news organization; it is true.  But as said before, the political
price to be paid for relations with <i>Fox</i> works like this: 
since in refighting the Alamo, Fox only smears and denigrates the
President no matter what he does, the only cost that  <i>can </i> be
incurred would be that of legitimizing the propagandists by granting
them interviews and access.   Because if Fox seems like a news
organization, all their non-stop derision seems to have some
validity, which it doesn't.  Since legitimizing Fox is thus harmful,
scoffing and ignoring the scalawags is the right play for WH.  
</p>
<p>If you or people close to you <b>think</b>
Fox is news, or <i>kind of</i> news, all that proves is that
disciplined, well-staged political organizing works even today, just as it did for
Lenin.  Lenin and company put out those newspapers but he was
obviously no newsman either.  By the way, intellectuals in Russian
have never understood why the imperial police (<i>okhrana</i>) put up
with Lenin's <b>crap </b>(they could have jailed him, tailed him, whacked him); that cost the whole place 70 bloodthirsty years in
the wilderness!  Of course, Ailes is no revolutionary, just a
bubbleheaded Nixonian pimp whose appalling life's work has consisted of arguing with mock indignation that
up is down. Some, like fellow Nixon-crony Cheney (and his <b>freak show daughter</b> Liz!) enjoy this of
course, and are eager to play their roles as willing dupes.   But
Obama and the rest of us can opt out:  we don't <b>have to</b> be part of
the Big Lie.</p><blockquote><p>[<i>P.S. one may also see btw Countdown from last night on this;&nbsp;</i></p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#33284922">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#33284922]</a></blockquote>
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<entry>
   <title>Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize!!!!!!</title>
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      <![CDATA[Tough break for all those who bloviated he was rejected internationally over Olympics!<br />HOLY SMOKES!!!]]>
      
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<entry>
   <title>Replaying failed Palin strategy:  HOW REPUBLICANS LOST HEALTH CARE debate, ha-ha-ha! </title>
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   <summary><![CDATA[Bible Spice sucked up a lot of attention and air time, and that was the kooky McCain campaign's strength, but also its undoing.&nbsp; By the time people had taken in her full freak show two or three times, and especially...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<span><p>Bible Spice sucked up a lot of attention and air time, and that was the kooky McCain campaign's strength, but also its undoing.&nbsp; By the time people had taken in her full freak show two or three times, and especially after Katie Couric, they were ready for Tina Fey to eviscerate the ignoramus.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>So with health care also;&nbsp;<b><i>way</i></b>&nbsp;too much time on the boob tube with nothing to say, &nbsp;i.e., Republicans have made the same strategic error.&nbsp; Overexposed loudmouths who have nary a thing to offer.&nbsp; That hideous <a href="http://www.wikio.com/video/1569165">Coburn has made a fool of himself, indeed a Scrooge</a>, and <a href="http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/cantor-to-constituent-with-sick-relative-seek-charity.php">so now has Cantor</a>, in similar and all-too-predictable ways. Got no solutions, and <i>that has registered.</i>&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Americans listened to envenomated Republican surrogates and their bizarre invective, gave them every chance.&nbsp; And finally concluded&nbsp; that they are naught but a bunch of bigots and buttholes. &nbsp;Enter President Clinton as relief pitcher, and he is throwing smoke.&nbsp; (Go dawg!)&nbsp;<br /></p><p>The&nbsp;<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/us/politics/25poll.html?pagewanted=2">polling shows</a> that Americans may be unhappy with some of Obama's leadership, but they are moving away from these ignorant haters and corporate stooges. &nbsp;The nabobs claim (incoherently) that giving Americans what every industrial country already has now is excessive, and the voters think, "Overreach THIS!" &nbsp; Voters won't move back because Republicans have taken their best shot, and <a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/poll-even-republican-voters-favor-the-public-option.php">people reached the conclusion that they're peddling snake oil</a>: &nbsp;accordingly,&nbsp;<b><i>we are going to win. </i></b>So we can decide for ourselves if the public option really is a good idea, because we are going to get it, and we will all try it out together.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>McCain <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/06/04/mccain_challenges_obama_to_10.html">wanted these town meetings all along</a>&nbsp;(we just didn't realize what devilry he had in store), remember that? &nbsp; He got the rough equivalent with Palin and her idiocy. &nbsp;Now GOP has staged the real thing, and Americans were shocked but not impressed. &nbsp; Republicans can try the same tactic in 2010, of course:&nbsp; put a bunch of screaming people on the news night after night, who don't have one intelligent thing to say.&nbsp; So far, it has failed twice.</p></span> ]]>
      
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   <title>Recommend please if SMIRKING CHRIS WALLACE deserves a PUNCH IN THE MOUTH.</title>
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   <summary><![CDATA[Some people change careers, and Chris Wallace was a journalist until 2003.&nbsp; He got his start by trading on the name of his overrated father, Mike Wallace, though he did well on his own.&nbsp;Since 2003, he is unburdened by the...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<span><p>Some people change careers, and Chris Wallace was a journalist until 2003.&nbsp; He got his start by trading on the name of his overrated father, Mike Wallace, though he did well on his own.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Since 2003, he is unburdened by the strictures of journalistic discipline, and works, as Obama did, as a community organizer.&nbsp; But he has funding from billionaire wackaloon Rupert Murdoch and Fox, and together they toil to create a pro-assassination environment and bring down the government by extra-Consitutional means.&nbsp; Whenever <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/fox-news-producer-caught_n_292529.html">they get into trouble</a>, Wallace is paraded out in a silly reporter's costume and tries to convince himself and others that he still has his old journalist job, and is not a front-man for a corporate sponsored sedition (domestic terrorism?) movement.&nbsp; This weekend, one week after the Fox-organized insurrection <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4RvcDrJisI&amp;feature=related">rally with its Hitler signs</a> and gun threats&nbsp; in Washington, Wallace had the breathtaking temerity to quip,&nbsp;<a href="http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/hurt-feelings-at-fox-news.php?ref=fpb">"Every president is thin-skinned, but I wonder whether this administration, this White House, has a particular problem with criticism."</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;(I.e., blaming the people they are spending millions continually to attack for defending themselves.) &nbsp;They try to hide behind double talk about how the paid insurrectionists are not from the news division of the news department, or some utter malarkey:&nbsp; No real journalist would ever dream of working as such a 1984-style corporate stooge, and he is no more a <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/cnn-ad-hits-back-at-fox-n_n_292158.html">journalist now than were the KGB officers who wrote op-ed for Soviet newspapers</a>.&nbsp; But Chris Wallace is unfazed and he pronounces the ludicrous words above as though he of all the low, disgraceful individuals had the standing.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>I'm tempted to be more nuanced and say tar-and-feather him (<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thomas-de-zengotita/obamas-case-for-sanity--s_b_292661.html">and surely boycott</a>), but I honestly<i><b> can't bring myself to pull the punch</b></i>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<b>RECOMMEND PLEASE,</b><b>&nbsp;if somebody oughtta wipe that smirk off his face by giving Wallace a GOOD SOCK IN THE MOUTH.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Thank you,</p><p>O.T. &nbsp;</p></span> ]]>
      
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   <title>The DEVILS of TASMANIA:  Vicious and Sick</title>
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   <summary><![CDATA["No one is really sure exactly how the cartoon character Taz originated. Some theorize that it may have been an inspiration of Errol Flynn, a native Tasmanian and a 1930s star of such movies as&nbsp;The Adventures of Robin Hood&nbsp;(1938). His...]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<span><p><span><span><i>"No one is really sure exactly how the cartoon character Taz originated. Some theorize that it may have been an inspiration of Errol Flynn, a native Tasmanian and a 1930s star of such movies as&nbsp;</i><span><i>The Adventures of Robin Hood</i></span><i>&nbsp;(1938). His father, T.T. Flynn, was a professor who did some of the first studies of the Tasmanian devil's biology. "One story is that a producer from Warner Bros. saw a devil in a traveling zoo," says Nick Mooney, a wildlife biologist for Tasmania's Department of Primary Industries, Water and Environment. '<a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/01/0130_030123_fox.html">The animal was driven crazy by confinement and was racing around in its cage, sort of like in the cartoon.</a>' "</i></span></span></p><p><span>==========================================================</span></p><p>Tasmanian Devils originally ranged through much of Australia (not fully clear), but some 400 years before European colonization began in 1788, came to be restricted the large Southern Island that gave their name. &nbsp;Tasmania would be the 42nd&nbsp;largest U.S. State <a href="http://www.theus50.com/area.php">after S. Carolina and before West Virginia at 26,421 square miles</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Put another way, Tasmania is just over 2/3 the size of the whole of Ireland.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>The Devil is the only remaining carnivorous marsupial (after the disappearance of the stripey <a href="http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/images/nature_conservation/thylacine.jpg">marsupial wolf</a>, or Thylacine last in captivity in Hobart, capital of Tasmania, in 1936).&nbsp;&nbsp;Marsupials, with pouches, are a sub-class of mammals (oh, excuse us!,&nbsp;<i>infraclass, </i>claims <i>Wikipedia</i> in their tedious, been-to-college vernacular).<br /></p><p>The Devils were so named by Europeans for their ferocity, and trademark piercing screams. The strongest bite among any mammal, it is said, and reportedly a real threat to livestock.&nbsp; The size of a small dog, it's meat is said to taste like veal. &nbsp;Malevolent toward one another, they are surprisingly tolerant of wildlife officials, and often rest calmly when physically handled.&nbsp; But all is not well.<br /></p><p>The poor Devils now mostly have a hideous transmissible cancer on their faces(!) and mouths; they contract this from <i>biting into&nbsp;</i>one another's faces (which they spend a lot of time doing), and the population may be about 80-90% down according to the worst estimate.&nbsp; This horror dates to around 1996 and its origins are unknown; infectious cancers are exceedingly rare and there are only probably three such types in the world.&nbsp; Of course, frequently biting into the large cancerous facial lesions of other infected Devils makes potentially every one of them a member of the at-risk population, regrettably.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Curiously the cells transmitted are <i>not </i>those either of the infect-ing Devil or the infect-ed; but of a Devil from around 1996 who somehow caught the ailment and is long deceased (Devils survive only three months with this scourge, not being able to eat when the fast-growing tumors expand to obstruct their mouths). &nbsp;If they are thus alien tissue, why don't their bodies reject the alien cancer cells? &nbsp;That's what most animals would do! &nbsp;Well, Devils on Tasmania are almost genetically identical and no one knows the reason for that; the result is that their immune systems don't recognize the cancerous cells of that long-deceased infected relative as foreign, and just accept the wretched infection as if their own tissue.&nbsp;<br /></p><p>But wait! &nbsp;Tasmania is big enough, you see, that the population in the Northwest is just different enough genetically, that a Devil named Cedric from there <i>did </i>reject cancer cells and this meant in a nature series that I saw, cue the lights, there is hope and <i>we will beat this thing!</i>&nbsp; Hollywood ending, as Cedric points the way!&nbsp;<br /></p><p>Except, uh, that Cedric later caught a mutant form of the cancer, or at any rate was somehow infected by December 2008.&nbsp;&nbsp; They have cut out the tumors in order to (maybe) save Cedric's life, but the hope that Cedric brought has dwindled.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is <i>no</i> durable strategy for the wild Devils now, except by quarantining tiny, uninfected populations, for example, in a fenced-off area of the island (<i>Tasman Peninsula</i>), also <a href="http://tassiedevil.com.au/research.html#pinkies">on an island</a> nearby, and through maintaining captive (zoo and other) populations. &nbsp;Hobart, which housed that last marsupial wolf, has stepped up to support a captive population. &nbsp;</p><p><span>To review: &nbsp;the entire population is at risk, there is no cure and none really expected (even though post-operative Cedric may be still alive), and substantially <i>all</i> Devils in the wild are slated to die in perhaps 10-20 years!</span></p><p>If every individual in the wild expires, then presumably captive Devils can be reintroduced after a time. But first one must make quite certain that the contaminated wild ones are all good and dead, <i>not one survivor</i>, ghastly as this is.&nbsp; It complicates things further that Devils also eat carrion; there is little doubt they would eat a deceased Devil and there may be risk of infection there as well; little is known.&nbsp; In incidentally, they typically live perhaps eight years in the wild, but the longevity world record is not known. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /></p><p>Something already wiped out much of their population in (presumably) epidemics of 1909 and 1950, by the way, and they obviously recovered. &nbsp;They are important to Tasmania incidentally in controlling the red fox, an appalling threat to the island introduced by "<a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/01/0130_030123_fox.html">ecoterrorists</a>"&nbsp;in 2001. Tasmania is over 1/3 covered by parks and refuges, and many of Australia's vanished animals live now only the island (what kind of <i>awful </i>person would introduce foxes intentionally into the fragile ecosystem is difficult to imagine). &nbsp;</p><p>Warner Brothers, responsible for the undersigned's logo and the wonderful Taz character <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/01/0130_030123_fox.html">has stepped up to offer support, as has Ted Turner</a>. &nbsp;In the Northwest, the population is still little-affected by the way, so there remains a flicker of hope that they could somehow be resistant, despite Cedric's predicament. &nbsp;Maybe. There is now talk of fencing off the entire Northwest; no one seems to know if that is realistic.</p><p><b>Save the Tasmanian Devil'</b>s site is&nbsp;<a href="http://tassiedevil.com.au/">http://tassiedevil.com.au/</a>. &nbsp;If you are in a position to help, please do so. &nbsp;In any case, thank you for reading, and don't be afraid to tell others.</p><p>-O.T.&nbsp; <br /></p></span><br /> ]]>
      
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